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  1. Pujara's county performance thread

    what more the selectors require to kick out this proven brain less idiot out of the team??????? the most undeserving batsman to have played 50+ tests...
  2. Hasan Ali taunting/Unprofessional @ Wagah border

    some things are in built, to be more precise constructed that way by mother nature so that it is virtually impossible to alter that how ever harder efforts in that direction are made, for instance snake-mongoose in built animosity, Pakistanis attitude towards India etc etc.
  3. Hasn't ball tampering always been a concerted effort?

    call your father 'hypocrite' .Kaptaan Saab is retired long way back . So he doesn't need to bother any more about that.Even a great batsman like Smith is severely suffering in each and every productive factor of his for what he did for not even his own primary discipline 'batting'.Another very good batsman Warner will most probably not play international cricket again.Reverse swing is an 'art' if any of the Pakistani bowlers displayed in now a days multi camera times there could be chances of life long bans.
  4. Hasn't ball tampering always been a concerted effort?

    yes... of course... these Pakistanis were the undisputed no:1 in tampering with Imran the pioneer in those 'pre multi camera and neutral umpires' days.As umpire Holder points out, Indian team too would have done that having been forced to do that in that 89 series to counter these bunch of repeated offenders with the 83 series in mind.
  5. Hasn't ball tampering always been a concerted effort?

    I repeat ...mind your words bloody Pakistani idiot.... call some of your family members 'hypocrite'. bark loudly to show your frustration in that your legendary kaptaan Khan has been badly exposed as a proven intense chronic ball tamperor. The testimonies w.r.t that are numerous. Maninder singh,Sandhu,Don Oslear,John Reid,Ian Botham,Robin Smith,Allan Lamb, Sarfraz Nawaz,Aamer Sohail,Shahbaz Shereef,Ramiz Raja,Shoaib Akhtar all have given testimonies w.r.t Imran's ball tampering .And players like Mohinder Amarnath,Shastri etc etc too had expressed serious doubts . Now I find 2 more additions to the list umpire Holder & ex PAK player Sadiq Mohammed. https://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?336769-Imran-Khan-Interview-With-Darcus-Howe-On-Ball-Tampering-Like-Always-Defending-Pakistan watch Sadiq accusing Imran in this video and show your frustration even more. I am yet to come across a player about whom some 14 players have given testimonies w.r.t tampering as has happend with your legendary Kaptaan.That shows who actually is the hypocrite here.
  6. Hasn't ball tampering always been a concerted effort?

    you bloody idiot .... call some of your family members 'hypocrite '. I need not feel jealous about that chronic ball tamperor Imran about whom more than 10 cricket related people have accused of tampering the ball(even fellow Pakistanis like Sarfraz Nawaz,Aamer soahil,Shahbaz Shereef,Ramiz Raja,Shoaib Akhtar etc etc have given testimonies ) . And what not, flow of his career stats too points to the fact that he was a chronic ball tamperor. Yes... Imran missed 3 years of his peak.... but the fact is that he played 16 non stop tests (which he had never done before in his career till that time) starting from 13 Nov 1981 to 30 Jan 83 ( in just 14.5 months) , picked as many wickets as possible due to intense ball tampering ,badly injured his shin due to heavy workload and then paid the price of not being able to play in the next 3 years.You can't have it both ways idiot. And now .... one more person added into the list of those coming with Imran's tampering expertise ..... umpire Holder
  7. Hasn't ball tampering always been a concerted effort?

    I think it is not correct to assume that 'Indians too started tampering' just because umpire Holder accused the Indians of that.More over this statement of Holder, though is enough to doubt even a legendary player like Kapil do not have enough in it to prove the repeated offense of Indian players w.r.t tampering. Would elaborate reasons from Kapil's point of view.First of all we need to go thru this link. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=VWGMmfRctzEC&pg=PA195&lpg=PA195&dq=kapil+dev+if+i+tampered+with+ball+i+could+have+got+500+wkts&source=bl&ots=5D7kk5plW_&sig=9pZ2VuGFXI4yKjQoy7NKJRvVObs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFyvurs63aAhVJqo8KHXvfBkgQ6AEIMDAB#v=onepage&q=kapil dev if i tampered with ball i could have got 500 wkts&f=false In the 83 PAK series most of the Indian players speculated that some thing was being done to the ball by the Pakistanis.Naturally it can be assumed in all probablity that Indians knew nothing about tampering that time.Soon in 83 itself Kapil played in the series vs WI in India. After that he had his knee surgery.Till that point Kapil's record read at 62 tests,247 wkts @27.72 avg:. Balwinder Sandhu who has played a lot with Kapil dev (even in the 83 WI series in India and also in that 83 PAK series) has stated with utmost assurance and sincerity that he never would place Imran over Kapil because of tampering and that Kapil was a clean cricketer.Sandhu being such closely associated with these players and events would know much better than we people, isn't it???So it's sure that Kapil took 247 wkts in 62 tests at a very good avg: of 27.72 with out any tampering. After that his knee injury and subsequent surgery came.He didn't take adequate rest after surgery.The result was that in his next 30 tests he could only pick 72 wkts @ 36.25.And more importantly an avg: of 40.26 in 19 tests at home during this period. If he tampered with the ball his figures would certainly have been much better isn't it??? Then in the next 2 series in WI and 'NZL at home' respectively Kapil was at his very best.Here too there is nothing to suggest that ball tampering took place because in WI Kapil had always been brilliant and against NZL he could feed of brilliant performance of 2 spin bowlers Ayub & Hirwani. After that the 89 series in PAK happend.As umpire Holder points out tampering would have happend mostly with malicious Prabhakar at the lead, keeping in mind as to what happend in that 83 series in PAK .But from all the things mentioned till now , we can assume Kapil to be innocent in this saga despite surely being aware about what was going around him .Yes umpire Holder has pointed out Kapil's name too.But we need to evaluate things based on what happend in the latest Bancroft incident.Even with the aid of 30 or so cameras and such big screens and all ,the field umpires couldn't identify as to what was going on and to be more precise as to who was the person behind tampering. It took around 1.30 hrs effort of cameras to identify that Bancroft was the culprit.If this is the case in these much highly technologically advanced days, how could a middle aged umpire with out any technical assistance trace out exactly as to who exactly was tampering the ball among 11 players spread distances apart in a vast ground???Naturally when ever the ball would have passed on to him, umpire Holder could have realized that ball was being tampered with.But to think that he knew exactly the culprit behind the tampering is big folly.Naturally he named the 2 main bowlers in the Indian camp and also Pak camp.One thing which can be agreed upon is that all the bowlers would benefit from a tampered ball even if tampering is only done by a single player. But it is naive to think that Kapil got any benefit when oppostion score happend to be 699/5 in the lone inns in the concerned Lahore match. Malicious Prabhakar played 39 tests in total and avg:ed a paltry 37.3. 1st test in 89 PAK tour was only his 2nd test match.So at the worst case, even if Prabhakar tampered with the ball in all matches played in , there is nothing to suggest that he knew even the basics of proper tampering.Other wise how he could avg: only 37.3??? That means ,even if other bowlers too would benefit by ball tempering in normal cases , in Prabhakar's case that would be practically nil. So all in all ,it can be safely assumed that 89 PAK tour has been the only instance of occurance of tampering in Kapil's career where he was not at all the culprit.
  8. Hasn't ball tampering always been a concerted effort?

    whether Kapil had influence or not is the matter.It's just a matter of common sense to assume that Kapil would have just minded his own business and didn't care about what Prabhakar or others(if captain or some others knew about it) were doing in the match. you might believe what you want to believe. But I stand by the word of the great player himself rather than that of umpire Holder. The reason I repeat is that even in these 30 odd camera days & far better technology aided playing days, umpires are not able to trace out players who are actually doing the tampering themselves just as happend in Bancroft's case.Then in those far lesser technology aided playing days it is only natural to assume that umpires just couldn't trace out the original player tampering with the ball.Here also Holder is just naming the 2 main bowlers who played for India in that test.And take notice that he is not naming the captain Srikkanth or other bowlers. It just shows it's virtually impossible as to trace out as to who actually is doing the dirty trick in the ground even with the aid of such advanced technologies. And again I accept that Kapil benefitted a little bit in that match from the tampering done by Prabhakar or any other involved though what all he could do was consume 77 runs with out taking a single wicket. An avg: of 29.64 after bowling 27740 balls in just 15 y & 5 months with very mediocre bowling support & with out resorting to ball tampering is a very good one.This is because I am not one who just takes avg: with out taking context into account.
  9. Hasn't ball tampering always been a concerted effort?

    even in the last ball tampering incident, umpires came to know that Bancroft was the tamperor only because cameras caught him with substantial evidence. Otherwise even the umpires wouldn't have identified as to who actually was tampering the ball.Isn't it?? That being the case it is only sensible to understand that umpire Holder could realise that tampering was going on only when ever he got the ball in hand .Naturally he would have doubted each and every bowler with out knowing as to who actually was the tamperor .That is easily understandable.And your claim that Kapil wasn't a junior doesn't make any sense because Kapil after all was only one team member.He wasn't the captain or coach or team manager.Naturally why he needed to object bowling with the ball ???Yes I agree that Kapil too would have benefitted a little bit from the tampering done by Prabhakar in that particular match because Kapil too would be bowling with the same ball.Isn't it?Other than that there is virtually no like wise incident related even with Prabhakar. I have watched the live discussion w.r.t ball tampering where Kapil so confidently states that he didn't ever resort to tampering.And Kapil's series wise stats too back up that conclusion.All in all the case is so different when compared to the padosi Kaptaan Khan who was a chronic tamperor.Kaptaan's flow of series wise stats too back up that conclusion
  10. Hasn't ball tampering always been a concerted effort?

    Kapil has so confidently and convincingly stated that he didn't deal with those dirty tactics.Umpire Holder was only pointing to that specific Lahore test where in Prabhakar also played.Quite naturally even if a single player(Prabhakar) did the dirty trick, it is natural that his fellow bowlers too had to bowl with the same ball. Isn't it?Other than this incident(Prabhakar the culprit in this case) there is no other incident that even remotely suggests that Kapil did tampering.What not if you go thru series wise stats from that 89 series onwards, Prabhakar was mediocre in each and every series he played except for 1 series in SL.All these suggests even Prabhakar might had involved in very little events other than that 89 PAK series.That being the case it is utter rubbish to drag the name of Kapil in tampering as was the case with a chronic tamperor like Imran.
  11. Hasn't ball tampering always been a concerted effort?

    Umpire John Holder has come up with this statement off late 'I caught India, Pakistan players tampering with the ball but could do little' He was refering to one incident in 89 Lahore test. He even accuse Kapil of doing that. On one side Kapil in a discussion w.r.t ball tampering had so confidently dismissed that he never tampered with the ball stating in these lines that had he did those sort of things he would easily have picked 500+ wickets.No wonder that even a honest player like Kapil would get accused when playing along side Prabhakar.It is natural to assume that even if Prabhakar was the culprit , Kapil had no option but to use the same ball. I strongly believe that would have been the case.
  12. the last bomb blast on a church gathering took place just inside the past 4 months or so.Isn't it? I think it happend on Dec 17 2017.Some organisation took responsibility and made a statement in the lines that all non muslims are our enemies or so.
  13. Smith, Warner banned for 12 months by Cricket Australia

    now got your 'entire problem'. Keep on with that.
  14. First I thought it to be Smith because of his much superior test record.Almost evenly distributed avg:s in all countries.One negative is the <30 avg: in Bangladesh which is the latest entry into 'non minnow' category.But has scored only 2 100s in the 3rd & 4rth match inns combined.Kohli lags Smith by around 9.5.Also his avg: in ENG: is so pathetic.Kohli has 4 100s in the 3rd & 4rth match inns combined.Just like Smith's over all avg: is convincingly more at home than abroad, Kohli's avg:s too are like that in more or less same proportions. All in all Smith is comfortably ahead in tests.And over all inns they played too is almost the same. But in one days Kohli is far ahead. An avg: difference of 12.5 despite playing more than double the no: of inns than that of Smith.Kohli has 32 100s to Smith's 8. Kohli avg:s 45+ in all countries.Smith has 7 countries where he avg:s <33(In South Africa 1 inns vs Ireland excluded.Also in Bangladesh too he has been paltry even if it was when Bangladesh was minnows). In these days where 50 is the bench mark of greatness in one dayers, this is a very moderate record.More over Kohli's over all avg: is more or less evenly distributed as 58.03 : 54.16 at home : abroad/neutral respectiverly. But for Smith the difference is so glaring.It is 58.8: 32.74.Yes.... Smith has played better impact inns in general when compared to Kohli in world cups , but Kohli too has been brilliant in champions trophy.And Kohli is vastly superior chaser & finisher. And in T20S there is no comparison. Kohli is miles ahead. Though tests carries the most weightage, Kohli's over all limited overs credentials is vastly superior to that of Smith. So it is Kohli for me.Thoughts....
  15. Smith, Warner banned for 12 months by Cricket Australia

    'racist Indians' ??????? Who are you to generalise???Harbhajan had clarified his stance w.r.t the matter to the whole world & Sachin had been cleared by the 'supreme authority' ICC that time itself. Don't make your own stories. On one hand we have chronic tamperors like Imran who wouldn't have gone on to become even 3/4rth of the player in these mutli camera days....Here you are accusing a legally 'clean chit' legendary batsman whose legacy had nothing to do with ' bowling'
  16. Of course..... these Aussies always want grilled chicken at 'x' degree centigrade when they tour.if it is 'x-1' degrees, they make all the problems and complaints. On the other hand , there even used to be a time when vegetarians in the Indian squad needed to find food themselves in AUS. These factors too like hostile crowd,media , verbal abuse etc etc played part in traditional Aussie dominance. So enjoying every bit if it when they are on other side of the boat.
  17. Ban for Life - Smith, Warner

    No firstly ....life ban would be too harsh a punishment for a great batsman who did the cheating just for his fast bowlers just because of him being the captain. Secondly, legendary padosi Kaptaans are there who committed much more intense cheating day in day out to be known as legends in their main discipline.And what not, Kaptaan Khan had even higher esteems to conquer as being "the GOAT all rounder +ATG Kaptaan". When such chronic criminals are there with their records at least officially intact(their esteem no more the same in the minds of lakhs and lakhs of fair play believing game lovers though) , a great batsman like Smith doesn't deserve life ban at all.A 2 year ban will do.
  18. Oops ... Bancroft did a pakistan

    yeah .... i have fond memories w.r.t 'nice discussions' there. If you say any thing negative(even a little bit of absolute truth) w.r.t Pak players, your posts gets deleted.And if you question that, you will get banned.That is a sort of dictatorship, not 'nice discussion'
  19. would like to read the views of Smith defenders now.Weren't they glorifying him as the 2nd coming of Bradman??? Despite all these cheating exercises, he is still a great test batsman.No doubt about that.But to project his 60+ avg: and place all great batsmen of past decades below him based on averages (with out taking bowling conditions into account) has always been knee jerk & foolish.
  20. Oops ... Bancroft did a pakistan

    Imran knew how to cheat with out caught????????? It was his sheer luck that he was born in those time periods with far lesser technology w.r.t cameras as opposed to what we are witnessing now a days.Poor Banchroft couldn't escape with even a silly small piece of tape like thing even in his first attempt. Then imagine the fate of a chronic cheater who brought bottle tops and the likes into the play ground regularly.I wouldn't be surprised at all if i knew that he had brought even knives into play .
  21. Remember the date? 2003.03.23

    the point of this thread??????
  22. Ball Tampering by Aus ?

    Infact , i don't think there has been any other bowler in the history of the game who got directly or indirectly accused for tampering by more than 10 people that includes fellow players,opposition players,umpires ,cricket analysts etc etc
  23. Ball Tampering by Aus ?

    exactly .....I also got banned from that site for telling the truth.There we can't utter a word accusing their legendary Kaptaan of ball tampering.Then that post will get deleted.On the other hand they can degrade Indian players to any lower levels. I couldn't tolerate it and retaliated with harsh words that resulted in my ban.As you said there are some Indians who doesn't mind all those at the expense of staying there which people with self esteem can never ever cope with.
  24. Ball Tampering by Aus ?

    To be precise, opening threads 'accusing Sachin of all people tampering' in these moments is the most dumbest thing a Pakistani could ever commit.After all Sachin was legally & officially cleared of tampering by the ICC that time itself. Secondly , the legacy of Sachin as a legendary player wouldn't lose by even a bit because his credentials are based on the extremely most difficult discipline of the game, ie: batting. His bowling was just an icing on the cake.But then.... some of these padosis are as foolish and shameless as it can get because of not even having the minimum common sense to realise that it is going to boomerang on them by the legacy of their own so called 'legendary phaast bowlers' getting questioned.
  25. Ball Tampering by Aus ?

    And as a matter of 'divine inevitability' threads regarding 'greats of Indian cricket related to tampering' have sprung up in padosi passion sites.And as always , it getting boomeranging on their own 'legendary phaast bowlers' and hence some of the 'blasphemy posts especially related to the great pioneer Kaptaan' getting deleted is happening there. Uttering a negative word against Kaptaan is blasphemy there.

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