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  1. Really these promising mutli dimensional players like Shaw,Iyer,Pant etc etc  need to given enough early  international chances especially in dead rubbers & against comparatively weaker teams   to test as to whether they have it in them to replace one dimensional players like  Rohit,Dhawan & Pujara .For instance ,as of now    Rohit with 43+ avg: is batting  in one dayers, who knows either one among these extremely talented youngsters would   straight away be a success and start avg:ing in the 50s .

    But for that they need to be given enough chances to prove their worth first hand. The thought of Sachin comes to mind.He had to wait for 70 inns & 4 years to get his favourite opening spot in one dayers .Mediocres  Jadeja & Srikkanth  were opening for India till that time.

  2. 1 hour ago, bsriharsha said:

    With respect to India - Either engage with Pakistan fully or don't engage with them at all. This half arsed nature isn't gonna work out. 


    The moral of India's policy is  'not to relate with  a 'terror' sponsoring nation' as much as possible if not fully avoidable'.That is why India avoids bilaterals with Pakistan  completely , but plays in ICC events because otherwise they will loose points that affects chances as a whole in the particular tournament. Personally I don't find anything wrong in it .

  3. On 10/12/2017 at 1:45 PM, Shaz1 said:

    Come to Pakistan boys. We will treat you better.

    Yeah .......just like you treated  SL cricket team in 2009. Especially the treatment given to Samaraweera was royal. And the trials for that incident was  conducted  years back in 1989 when a maniac spectator entered the pitch and tried to attack then Indian captain Srikanth.Some fellow  Indian players had to resort to physically handle that man to ensure Srikanth's safety.  Also hope you would be well aware of an incident of an one day match with India  completely abandoned due to crowd trouble  in 1989 in your country, because of Pakistan tottering at 25/3 or so .



  4. 3647 runs in 50 first class matches & 73 inns with 5 not outs in 'non test' first class matches.That means an avg: of 53.63 & runs/inns of 49.96 .This include 4 double 100s of which 3 are tripples & a total of 8 100s.

     The above is the basic data that convince me about the match temperament of Jadeja.It is not a bit inflated by high percentage of not outs.On a par with any top order batsman in our first class cricket.When several  top order batsmen like Dhawan,Rohit,Pujara,Karun Nair,Mukund etc etc are given  chances after chances despite proving mediocre  in various countries Jadeja at the least deserves a chance to prove his worth.To think that Pujara despite having been mediocre as of now in 3 alien countries AUS,NZL & ENG and yet having played 50+ tests  in top order  and yet Jadeja didn't get enough chances  is a bit strange. 

  5. 46 minutes ago, Texy said:

    How shitty is the opposition bowling for Jaddu to make 200 ...mediocrity all around...

    In the same match, 'the second coming of Dravid' Pujara(also the cornerstone around which India's home  victories are built) & another ex international player Uthappa were dismissed cheaply for the team to struggle at 59/3 or so.Taking all these into accounts I don't think Jadeja's effort was mediocre.  

  6. 1 hour ago, King Tendulkar said:

    Plus his triple tons . Bat him 3 and can replace pujara . Pujara knees a liability anyway 

    Not sure about 3 because it demands skill to tackle new ball irrespective of conditions. But a batsman avg:ing 53.63  surely deserves  atleast  6th spot & atleast in home conditions.

  7. 3 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

    Zaheer Abbas over Yuvi? Its a little harsh. I am not even sure if Zaheer can withstand the kind of cricket we play today.

    Zaheer was the only player from those difficult  80s whose  one day record stood in comparison with Viv.And he played test matches too unlike Yuvraj.

  8. Have been  of this opinion for a while.Today's 201 while his team was struggling at 59/3 or something like that , that too with  proven top order players Pujara & Uthappa  dismissed cheaply says a lot about his test match temperament. He avg:s a very good 45.12 in 82 first class matches  &  121 inns as of now.if we remove test match stats from these, it comes down to 3647 runs in 50 first class matches & 73 inns with 5 not outs.That means an avg: of 53.63 & runs/inns of 49.96 .This include 4 double 100s of which 3 are tripples & a total of 8 100s. Another important fact is that,  of his 15 not out scores  10 are in test cricket & 5 only in other first class matches .Yet avg:ing a mammoth 53.63 shows his very good  big inns temperament  which has until now been not properly utilized in test cricket.And he is not yet into his peak years. More over he is a left hander too.

      On the other hand Ashwin, whose first class avg: is more or less the same as his   test avg:  is being  played at the 6th slot.Ashwin avg:s 35.2 

    in  first class matches other than tests with only 2 100s while Jadeja avg:s 53.63  in  first class matches other than tests with 8 100s.  Sample size  for Ashwin is 53 inns & 13 not outs where as it is 73 inns & only 5 not outs for Jadeja.And runs/inns  of Ashwin is 26.57 while that of Jadeja is 49.96 !!!!!!!!!! So basically the first class record (other than tests) of Jadeja is far better compared to that of Ashwin.Yet he plays below Ashwin in tests despite being a left hander too.



  9. Sachin




    Zaheer Abbas



    Afridi  // bottle top Khan  discarded.Afridi was a great one day leg spin  all rounder 

    Akram //both Akram & Waqar despite aided by some levels of tampering are still good enough than any other choices.




    reserves : Sehwag,Yuvraj,Imran,Dravid

  10. 5 hours ago, Khota said:

    You are so sure of yourself.

    Dhawan or Rohit or Rahane >>> Murali.

    They will run circles around Murali. Murali is a grinder with very limited upside. Other three look gifted compare to him.

    There is no denying the fact that MV has been  the best opener in the 3 most toughest places for India namely AUS,SAF & ENG combined.An avg: of 44+ in 24 inns  in these 3 places is a seriously good track record.To add to it he avg:ed 37  in his last tour of SAF(2 tests only though)  where he is at his worst with an avg: of 29.33. Means, his skills to do the job at hand is never  in doubt.

    But the problem is his fitness & form. 

  11. Quote


    Having said all these things, MV avg:s a  very good 44.17  from 24 inns  in AUS,ENG & SAF combined.Of these , it is  only in SAF that he is not that good with a 29.33 avg:  .In NZL  where MV is really bad with a 12 avg:( only 4 inns though) , Dhawan who avg:s 52+ will  be the better choice.That means  even Pujara having been very good in SAF along with Kohli & Rahane ,  if Rahul becomes a success in SAF, then MV can feed off  from these four batsmen  to be  good/very good in SAF  so that the top 5 performs well as a unit in SAF. But for that, the main criteria is  to Rahul become a success there. Also   Vijay  himself need to be in his best  form .

  12. With Indias' most important assignments coming up(abroad tests)  , one of the most important elements (which deceides the  flow of all inns & there by the series itself) in the form of one of the opening slots poses a lot of questions, precisely  Murali Vijay.He is already past 33.5 years old.In the last 2 years he avg:ed just over 35 in 22 inns or so.And he is  not in the best of forms in the on going  Ranji trophy either.His only

    positives   w.r.t   toughest assignments are his past  records in ENG & AUS.More over he is a right hander too that lessens variety if Rahul is the other opener. These being the facts, is he worth a place in the side for SAF tour?

    Are their other worthy alternatives??Discuss.

  13. depends... if all things fall in its place.Got to be lucky with the toss(Keep in mind that  batting  first on 2 toss winning occasions , then posting descent totals of around 350 on  both occasions , then winning  by a few paltry runs due to 4rth inns score board pressure  can do the trick despite  SAF  winning the other test by even an inns) . Then choice of the bowling need to be the most perfect. Jadeja & Kuldeep are key to success, I think, because SAF is traditionally weaker against  both type of bowling.  

  14. Not  the greatest.... but definitely one of the  greatest.


    An ATG one day batsman  especially a brilliant chaser & finisher, a good test batsman, a great wicket keeper, a  great captain - All combined he is definitely one.But he is behind




    Sunil in that order...



  15. 12 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

    Party time for Indian’s. National holiday.

    Occasionally you get to learn from  just recent events. PAK  got it  in the form of SL batting in the 3rd inns where all the batsmen went into a shell  in a crumbling pitch  and paid the price.Yet PAK did not learn from it  and hence this result.

  16. the main point is  not Pujara's performance. It is as to what the cricket management is doing to counter the below par performance of such main players.For instance promising players like Shreyas Iyer, Karun Nair  etc etc would have been tested  in

    non consequential matches when ever there have been oppertunities .For instance both Iyer and Nair could have been tested    once the series were already  deceided in NZL, ENG  home tests & WI ,SL abroad tests. But unfortunately that has not been happening.

  17. 14 hours ago, sandeep said:

    Umesh Yadav and Ajinkya Rahane both are in the same boat - just not good enough to belong in India's starting XI in ODIs.  

    Rahane at least is a world class test player. But Umesh???  I think this is a major handicap with Indian system.Allowing mediocre players to go  on  playing with out testing talented youngsters.How come Ishant Sharma, Umesh, Pujara play so many matches

    till now?? So strange.To have tested  new talented youngsters mid way  would have been the correct thing to do.Any way  mediocrity is being allowed to continue for such lengthy periods.Then what big matter if it is  the case with new comers??. At the least such huge monetary benefits would have got shared with quite a few players than going as a whole  into the hands of  these undeserving players.After all  at least  testing new comers  at the place of  proven mediocre players is the proper method to follow.

  18. Should be dumped for the benefit of the team for ever.Baring SAF he has been a failure in  AUS,ENG & NZL.This after playing 50+ tests.If his home record is the justification for his inclusion, then  another player  with slightly lesser home record but with far better  away record  is the better option because the allrounders in the team would cover for his extra performance in home conditions.As if there are no replacements in domestic.!!!!!!!!  Even in 2nd division he is poor...that says a lot.

  19. A bat avg: of 42.8 and bowl avg: of around 29.88 as of now.That is top class all round performance despite this being  in  division 2 category because of these  being total  alien  conditions to Ashwin, both in batting and bowling .On the other hand  the so called 2nd coming of Dravid , Pujara is  struggling big time  there.The 'AWAY' track record of current  Indian  top order test batsmen  is the worst in England in general.Only Murali Vijay & Rahane have performed at least in 'average' levels there.That  being the case, I feel it would be better to play all the prominent all rounders in  Ashwin,Jadeja,Pandya,Kuldeep &  Bhuvi  along with Saha & 4 top order batsmen & a specialist pace bowler( preferably Shami) in ENG, though this seems strange in hindsight.Any way this Pujara  despite having played there before  is still  keeping on failing even at county level and hence his contribution  would most probably be got from an additional all rounder.Also Ashwin,Jadeja & Bhuvi have track records of several descent inns in ENG.That being the case this adds great to bowling variety which in turn might turn in lot more effective usage of 'horses for courses'  theory.

  20. Can't really understand why this guy Umesh is still  in the one day team??.He has played 71 one dayers of mediocrity.An econ: of 5.94 is  worst even by Indian pace bowling standards.In one dayers  despite econ: being more important, he is mediocre in over all bowl avg: too.Today also  all his wkts came when the Aussies started to hit out after 37 overs or so.As usual he conceeded his expensive quota of runs .Would have been lot better if India left out him  for ever from  one dayers.With the series deceided, a new player could have been tested.     

  21. some knee jerk reactions working at best...what next ? if Bhuvi fails in next 2  ODI inns he should be suddenly dropped and some new face should be selected.Isn't it?  The team management knows the simple fact that each & every single match  the team plays cannot be won.The likes of Jadeja  are proven players who avg: over 30 with the bat in  one dayers.I suppose that the team follows horses for courses theory and the likes of Jadeja are a part of that  plan in the long run.

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