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  1. 5 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

     


    And more reason to hv 2 tier test cricket with periodic relegation / delegation.

    Aust/Eng often misuse their power and treat smaller boards as peasants. They reguarly call a bogie team just to practice before the main event. Eng always invite likes of SL in Apr before main season. They are having Pak this year. Aust invites some lower rank teams for couple of tests in october in smaller venues like Darwin/Cairns etc before summer. SA does the same sometimes with Zimb.

    This is where credit must be given to BCCI...they never misuse any team. If they are invited...they play proper series. And if they think likes of BD is not financially viable...they dont them invite at all.

    Poor from CA.

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    There's never been a game of international cricket played in England in April...?


  2. fully agree with sunny g in this instance

     

    Lloyd has been always hyper critical of the IPL when it was in ITV4... as soon as his paymasters have the rights to the IPL its all so good.

     

    Now I actually enjoy Lloyd as a commentator. He does bring colour to the commentary team. But there are others like Michael Vaughn who were always supportive of the IPL (though critical of certain aspects) who would have made a better choice.

    As far as I'm aware Lloyds only ever been critical of the television commercialisation of the IPL such as adverts taking place every single over and has actually always been pretty complimentary on the cricketing side of things? Seems fair enough to me?


  3. 12 hours ago, Sachinism said:

    Would take me less than 10 mins from work to get to The Oval.

    Can't wait for the days when Kohli comes in to bat around lunch time. Half day leave, off to the ground

    Unfortunately for you he'll only play a single game at The Oval and that's a one dayer.


  4. 3 hours ago, YCCC said:

    We're the only country that does this, giving overseas players the chance to play fc cricket in our domestic competition. And being a parochial person I'd ban it and make all counties pick only players born in the county. 

    Not quite sure I'd go to that extreme but we really should look at some kind of reciprocal agreements on overseas players, especially on short term deals like this.


  5. 2 minutes ago, sandeep said:

    You are contradicting your own argument.  If the T20 innings are done in 85 minutes each, then why make the silly cut to 16.4 to fit under 3 hours?  

     

    20 minutes ago, Stumped said:

    We can debate whether broadcasters should have such a large influence but unfortunately that's just the way modern cricket is. They input a huge proportion of the money nowadays although I'd guess the money isn't the focus with appeasing the BBC but instead the draw factor of getting cricket back on free to air TV. The suggestion seems to be to start the games around 18.30 and finish them up within about 2 and a half hours so something else can be broadcast from 21.00. There was an article going around recently with the average time of a t20 innings by country and the English t20 already had the lowest at something like 85 minutes (and there's run penalties in place for slow over rates). Given that it's safe to assume it would be a major struggle to reduce that by any kind of notable amount.

     

     

     

    3 minutes ago, sandeep said:

    And lost in all this chaos is the fact that if you keep the existing T20 tournament, and add this circus, where's the room on the calendar for FC cricket - 4 day or 50 overs?   Maybe the ECB thinks that its team can't compete in the existing 3 formats of the game, and decided to invent a new one where they can declare the winning team "world champions", American style.

    The word at the moment is that the 50 over tournament will be played in parallel with the new tournament but there's also been murmurs of playing a few championship games instead. We lost 2 championship games per team from the schedule last season without any increase in games in other formats so there's already a bit more room for manoeuvring than there was previously.


  6. 12 minutes ago, sandeep said:

    Surely, pursuing a "new" audience shouldn't be the be-all end-all of it.   You do want to take along the existing audience as well.  Such shitty perversion of the sport, just to suit broadcasting demands is quite foolish.  If you wanted to shorten the game, there is no reason why you couldn't fit 40 overs of cricket in about 3 hours.  This move smacks heavily of a desperate desire to differentiate themselves from other leagues that have left England in the dust.  In spite of England being one of the so-called early adopters of T20.

    Shouldn't necessarily be the be-all end-all but it's clearly what's deservedly a major focus in English cricket right now. I guess the argument would be that by retaining the old tournaments the existing audience is still getting what they are now.

     

    We can debate whether broadcasters should have such a large influence but unfortunately that's just the way modern cricket is. They input a huge proportion of the money nowadays although I'd guess the money isn't the focus with appeasing the BBC but instead the draw factor of getting cricket back on free to air TV. The suggestion seems to be to start the games around 18.30 and finish them up within about 2 and a half hours so something else can be broadcast from 21.00. There was an article going around recently with the average time of a t20 innings by country and the English t20 already had the lowest at something like 85 minutes (and there's run penalties in place for slow over rates). Given that it's safe to assume it would be a major struggle to reduce that by any kind of notable amount.


  7. 23 hours ago, sandeep said:

    Why are they so desperate to "differentiate" themselves from the other leagues.  This is pathetic.

     

    For better or worse, T20 has emerged as a new standardized format of the game.  The ECB is probably pissed that "they" were the first board to hold a T20 game, and have been left way behind by other cricket boards.  

     

    @YCCC @Stumped  How do you guys feel about this "exciting" innovation?:phehe:

    Bit confused with it to begin with but can see why they've gone down that route if their primary aim is to get people into cricket that have had very little interest in it previously. In the end that type of market is not going to be particularly bothered if it's T20 or this odd T16.4 (I assume there's a slightly more catchy name in the working featuring 100 in there somewhere). Because of that if the loss of overs was vital to getting the games on free to air TV as the papers are suggesting then I think it's a worthy trade-off. Sure there'll be more details/decisions released soon which should make it all a bit clearer.

     

    Not sure I agree with @YCCCs belief that there shouldn't be any effort made to get new people into the games and we should continue to rely on families simply passing an interest for the game onto their kids. Participation numbers have been decreasing for a while now and if absolutely nothing is done that's only going to continue, some kind of efforts got to be made to stop that


  8. 2 hours ago, sandeep said:

    Its called double-dipping.  They are already sucking down 20% of the players' IPL auction contract value.   It would be fair if they offset that against the salary cut, but doing both is really sleazy.   This kind of employer behavior wouldn't hold up if a player dared to challenge it legally.  As it stands, most players eligible for IPL bids, aren't going to risk pissing off the cricket board in order to get their fair compensation.  So the ECB can carry on its wage-stealing without any hindrance.

     

    But its sure going to get called out by informed observers...

     

    Not sure why a cricket fan would be such a vociferous defender of an obviously corrupt board though.   

    The BCCI pay compensation to the ECB in order to make the players available (and I'm under the impression they only pay compensation for players available the entire tournament?), the ECB in turn make them available by temporarily letting them off from their contractual duties and therefore don't pay them for the work they had them contracted for. That would stand up perfectly fine under a legal challenge. One of the benefits of a players association is the collective bargaining power so a single player doesn't have to expose themself in order to challenge something like that.

     

    Also I believe I'm correct in thinking the 20% isn't taken from the players salary but instead on top of it?


  9. 24 minutes ago, sandeep said:

    Bollocks.  ECB can't really put up barriers if Indian players are interested in playing county.  The rules allow for counties to sign foreign players, and Indian players do generate interest for these teams.   

     

    Did you know ECB not only collects a chunk of a player's IPL contract directly from the BCCI - but also imposes a salary cut on their player if he plays in the IPL?  

    How dare the ECB claim back part of the salary of players who aren't playing in the competitions the ECB are paying them to play in...


  10. 4 minutes ago, sandeep said:

    Spare us the fake surprise.  Your players know enough about the different types of mints, jelly beans  and their impact  on swing to submit PhD dissertations. 

    Sucking on a sweet/mint and then rubbing your saliva on the ball is not ball tampering, rubbing the sweet/mint on the ball is.


  11. 3 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

    Pujara is certainly going to bat at 3. Gary ballance bats for 4 for them. Handsomb their No. 3 players is not signed by Yorksire. Shaun Marsh is also not part in top order. So Pujara will get accommodated at 3 as he also is used to it.

     

    Well i have following opinions on the signings of Pujara:

    (1) Shaun Marsh has moved from Yorkshire to Glamorgan. Handscomb who batted at No 3 for Yorkshire has left Yorkshire in 2017 itself. So those two top order spots were vacant. Hence i think Chet is replacement of Shaun Marsh as it seems things have not worked getting Shaun Marsh back for 2018 season.  

    Pujara was one of the most probable candidate and he was in discussions since last few months. 

    Kane Williamson and Cheteshwar Pujara have played for Yorkshire before. So they are known to the setup and obviously preferred choices. Moreover. Kane Willaimson would be captaincy material option whenever Root is playing internatioanl matches and gary Ballance of Yorkshire is selected in England test squad. 

    (2) Pujara is expected to play in  Leeds Bradford MCCU fixture which is on April 7. Yorkshires will play 3 Division one matches post the MCCU match, 2 matches in May. The starts the Royal London One Day cup which Pujara will not play imo. In June second half  there are 2 County matches for Yorkshire.In July there is only one county match. In June and July the Royal One Dya comp and T20 blast will be played from May - August hence there will be hardly any county matches for all teams including Yorkshire. Spetember onwards county matches wills tart as royal One Day comp will be over and only T20 blast final is scheduled in Spetember.

    April : MCCU + 3 matches
    May: 1 match
    June: 2 matches 
    July: 1 match
    August: 2 matches
    September: 4 matches


    (3) Kane Williamson will join only in late July.I think he will play most of the T20 blast and second half of the county championships. Last year Yorkshire failed ot qualify in T20 blast, so i see Kane Williamson's signing is mor ein improving their chances in T20 blast. I don't see kane Williamson playing more than 4 county matches as he would ebe available for just 7 to 8 weeks.


    (4) England play India from July 4 to September 11 in T20, ODI and Test series. So Root will not play most of the county matches. The fixture of the July county matches clash with the India test series in September. england has international cricket in May , June and July so Root will miss some matches. even when Root is in Yorkshire team, he wont bat 3 imo.


    (5) Considering all the points No.s 1 to 4 i think Pujara is a key international signing. There is not a challenge to his No.3  spot and he will bat there imo. 

     

    It will be beneficial to Yorkshire because they can transition from Pujara to Kane Williamson when Pujara would be busy in test series against England in England. 

    With Root, Ballance and Bairstow all with the team early season I reckon Root could quite possibly bat at 3. The chances of Ballance getting an England call up this year are extremely low.


  12. 8 minutes ago, flat_wicket_bully said:

    I don't need stats to say someone is mediocre, I have my own eyes but you seem to be quite keen on it so in 3 innings that root has played in India (since IPL is played in India) he has scored 126 at an average 63 with SR of 104. We both know very well that SR is the most important thing in T20s. 

    Root has actually played 9 T20 innings in India. He's scored 375 runs at an average of 53.57 with a strike rate of 128.86.


  13. 37 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

     

    Lol, imagine if india actually tried to do what england does.

     

    We could easily relax eligibility rules on nationality to people of 'indian' origin pre-1947, and for cricketers playing their trade in india for a period of 3 years.

     

    Doing this would allow us to buy:

     

    1. Any pakistani or bangladeshi player that has some ancestral link to modern india (grandfather from punjab/bihar/bengal). So a pakistani like Mohammad Aamir (punjabi) or a bangladeshi like Tamim iqbal (bihari) could easily play for india.

    2. Afghan cricketers like rashid khan. India is afghanistan's home, they live and train here.

     

    But we won't do that because we're arent chxthiyas like the ingerlunders are.

    You realise the ECB actually have stricter qualification rules in place than every other nation? By the ICC regulations Jofra Archer was available for the Ashes.


  14. "South African opener Dean Elgar believes the third test with India should have been called off after he was hit on the head by Jaspirit Bumrah."

     

    Isn't that practically the opposite of what he says?

     

    "Asked whether he thought the match should have been called off before he was hit, Elgar said: "I do think so, yes...""

     


  15. 15 minutes ago, Tattieboy said:

    Born in  England too so not bought out like his brother supposedly is 

    They've both been all over the place. Their dad is Zimbabwean player Kevin Curran but he wasn't playing internationals by the time either of them were born. Played county cricket for Northants (where he met his English wife) up until 2000 therefore during their early years they spent the summers in England, but he played for Boland in the English winters (hence Tom being born there). A while after he retired he became Zimbabwe coach so they moved back there .  When their dad died pretty young they both moved over here to finish their education.


  16. 1 hour ago, Forever Indian said:

    How many domestic players have the money to have private counselling and research into the ingredients of each medicine they take? Surely it should be the state board which should do that and it is the team doctor who is the expert in this regard and failed to get permission.

    The immense cost of reading a label on a bottle and comparing it to a readily available list online?

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