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    Pak F-16 shot down

    Source? This would be epic if true.
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    We don't want to waste time, resources on splitting piles of kachra. Unkil Saud and Unkil Cheen can molest and play with the kachra as they see fit.
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    A Mig21 Bison bringing down a F16

    By same token, Pakistan didn't get lucky with WC Abhi's chute floating across LOC. Such credit works both ways.
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    A Mig21 Bison bringing down a F16

    Praveen Kumar bounced out Ricky Ponting. Was a key player in us winning our first ODI series down under. UP ka goonda bhaiya was a swinging magician before bhuvi. Respeckk!! to Praveen Kumar.
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    "We continue to control the escalation ladder"

    But that's OK. Blunt reality is that its good for India if Pakistan is dominated by their military and continues to waste money on arms and its "defence housing society" builder mafia. If Pakistan actually stops stabbing its own stomach, and gets its act together, gets democratic, concentrates on getting its economy in good shape - they would potentially be a more challenging competitor. And potentially be able to put more pressure on India in the JK dispute. Yes, we are paying a high cost in terror attacks, military costs etc. There are no secular Kashmiri secessionists - Almost 100% of them dislike India because they don't want to live under "non islamic" rule. Such delusions are never going to become reality. So let such genetically flawed population subsets waste their lives. Over the longterm, natural selection will take care of the population. Those with common sense, will live and thrive. Fools will die out. Quickly or of natural causes.
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    "We continue to control the escalation ladder"

    Unlikely. Don't let your wishes get ahead of logic.
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    "We continue to control the escalation ladder"

    Well sorry to disappoint, but the show's over.
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    "We continue to control the escalation ladder"

    It wasn't a mistake, they knew that multiple chutes were deployed and captured on video. They needed to put out misinformation to prevent questions among their natives about their losses. You guys are not grasping the fundamental disconnect here. Pakistani propaganda's purpose isn't to fool the world or India, it is to fool their own awaam. Rest is bonus if it works. See how quickly the dominant conversation amongst greenbros changed from - our sovereignty was violated - to - we gave India a response, captured a pilot - only crows and trees etc. The desire to maintain an illusion of supremacy is so desperate that straws that are given to that population will be eagerly grasped and bullshit will be swallowed down happily. Follow this up with unnecessary alerts to create a mahaoul of crisis - Blackouts in Karachi, Peshawar etc, rollout some tanks in cities like Sialkot. Get the public feeling anxious - it will naturally lead to circling of wagons, united against the enemy etc. Nobody is going to ask Pakistan army how is it that after Pulwama, knowing that India was planning on responding, that IAF could succesfully invade, target and bomb Pakistan, not just Kashmir - but actual Pakistan proper. The focus is now on trees, Wing Commander Abhinandan, and selfies with the scraps of the Mig. To be fair, media circus and propaganda is on our side as well, in ample quantities.
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    "We continue to control the escalation ladder"

    This joker is old news. His Ghazwa circus was funny a few years ago. Now its just boring.
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    A Mig21 Bison bringing down a F16

    Or a lucky shot in close-quarter fighting. No disrespect, but let's not award undue credit Bakistani style.
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    indian air-strikes explained by IAF

    Asim Bhai, you make some valid points, but please address this simple question - Why did Pakistan refuse access to the JeM seminary that's located in the area? I don't disagree that so far there is no evidence to indicate major damage was done. But let's assume that the bombs missed their targets and the terror camp was not damaged much. The fact still remains that India unilaterally invaded Pakistan territory and bombed a target. The primary objective is to signal a change in the escalation dynamic. For decades, India's military response has been restrained, due to multiple reasons, including the deterrence impact of Pakistani nukes. That dynamic is permanently altered. Do you understand what any of this means?
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    "We continue to control the escalation ladder"

    India has been operationally heating up the LOC for almost 2 years now. We have dominated the LOC reciprocal post firing exchanges, initiating it often. The theory is to make Pakistan pay a cost for continuing infiltration etc. The Balakot strike is simply an extension of the same strategic approach. The signalling is consistent - no more business as usual - costs for PakMil will continue to escalate until it changes its non-state actor policy. No talks either. Let them notch up some short term PR wins and all that. Reality is that continued tensions are more unaffordable for their economy than ours. Regardless of whether it involves actual military deployment and conflict or not. We are going to keep the costs high, and raise them if terror attacks take place. The message is clear and is being delivered in the language that PakMil understands. And I'm quite confident that they understand it quite well.
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    "We continue to control the escalation ladder"

    If Ind wanted to execute further strikes, they would have done so already. I think Ind is going to extended high alert mode to increase economic costs on Pakistan. Further kinetic action unlikely. The general stereotype around the 2 forces still sort of hold true. Any action taken by IndMil is usually deliberate, sort of slow-and-steady, waiting for time and place of choosing, maximize surprise, maximize balance of forces to maintain overwhelming superiority, minimizing casualty risk etc. While PakMil continues to demonstrate its capacity to operate with higher risk, prioritize tactical responses over long-term strategy. But still, at a minimum, India has thrown a giant wrench into their operating assumptions. Remains to be seen how it plays out from here on. But the 'conflict' is over, for all intents and purposes. Time to wrap it up. Even jingoistic Indian reporters have recognized this.
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    "We continue to control the escalation ladder"

    That appears to be the strategy, but needs to be believable. Right now, I am seeing clear signs of de-escalation, or a pause in escalation by India. Not ideal if you want to keep the pressure ratcheted up. I think this round of confrontation is largely over, and will taper out. Question remains whether we are able to extract further concessions from pak - further action against terror groups and JeM. I remain skeptical and pessimistic on this front. Overall, we have succesfully achieved a re-jig of the default paradigm, demonstrated a willingness to execute punitive consequences using conventional arms, i.e. calling the nuclear bluff. Major victory when the entire world refused to condemn violation of Pak sovereignty. On the con side, Pak got lucky with the winds pushing the parachute out, played the PR game well on their side so far. Unfortunately PakMil has redeemed itself in the eyes of its public, even though substantively they haven't really achieved much. That is not a positive in terms of the longterm expectations of developing peace.
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    Internet is your friend. You can either remove your ignorance, or stay in your delusion and denial. Your choice.
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    Enjoy that tea bhai, lot more consequences to come. I know your tribe likes to declare fake victories and celebrate them. Enjoy the stroke of luck that winds pushed a parachute into your territory, that's about it.
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    If the Americans do not come through on F16 sanctions, they can forget getting any defense contracts. Even LEMOA agreement can be rescinded. Typical greenbros - they just risked and sacrificed a major defense platform just to redeem their lost manhood. This is what happens when seasoned leadership is not in charge, and silly soldiers are allowed to make strategic decisions.
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    "Factual incorrect information put out by Pakistan". "Initial Pak claims of 3 Indian pilots and 2 Indian aircraft". "2 Pakistani parachutes observed of ejected pilots" "Pakistan aircraft targeted Mil installations, not empty land". "F16s used, contrary to Pak claims" - electronic signatures, amraam missiles. wreckage parts being salvaged and hidden by Pak" "IAF chief is officially claiming Pak F16 shot down by the Mig21 Bison".
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    Geezus the low-class photographers shouting like they are at a goddam sabzi mandi.
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    Proof of using F16s should trigger a response from the US. Spareparts supply expected to be shut off. F16s are a critical component of Pakistan's nuclear delivery options. Sure missiles are there, but CEP is way too high, F16s are important. If the US comes through, as they most likely will, they have just scored an own goal of major proportions. Typical Pakistani logic - they prioritized short-term goal of redeeming their humiliation, and jeopardized a major aspect of their nuclear defense.
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    Will you make up your mind? What's the story you are sticking to? F16s weren't used? Or so what if they were used? Have you decided yet?
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    They brought the retrieved piece of the missile. Its not just a photo. I know Gafoorbhai lives and earns medals by using photoshop, but Indian Generals and military doesn't operate that way.
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    See our military doesn't have a track record of lying to its own people like yours. So I understand how you would tend to think its all lies.
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    Pak F-16 shot down

    Watching the briefing. Our media is such a shitshow. Banjo its like a subzi mandi, pushing and shoving to take pictures. Asking dumb questions.

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