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    zen got a reaction from Zero_Unit in Challenges for Asian Teams in the World Cup   
    Ideally yes, but they could lose to most of SENA+WI and bring their (SL/BD/AFG) competitive spirit vs Ind  
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    zen got a reaction from Cricketics in When will India declare Pakistan a terrorist state?   
    Sorry for being a bit harsh on Ind but it has usually been all talk no action .... LOC is not even an international border, so can evaluate waging a small scale war on that front too. Most of the separatists live in the Kashmir Valley, which is about 16% of J&K  and accounts for 54% of its population. Let it face the consequences too 
     
     
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    zen got a reaction from Cricketics in When will India declare Pakistan a terrorist state?   
    Sorry for being a bit harsh on Ind but it has usually been all talk no action .... LOC is not even an international border, so can evaluate waging a small scale war on that front too. Most of the separatists live in the Kashmir Valley, which is about 16% of J&K  and accounts for 54% of its population. Let it face the consequences too 
     
     
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    zen got a reaction from Zero_Unit in Challenges for Asian Teams in the World Cup   
    Iirc, Pak mainly won CT by beating other Asian teams. And we lost to SL and Pak  
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    zen got a reaction from Zero_Unit in Challenges for Asian Teams in the World Cup   
    Ideally yes, but they could lose to most of SENA+WI and bring their (SL/BD/AFG) competitive spirit vs Ind  
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    zen reacted to sscomp32 in How did we lose to this SA side?   
    AB DEVILLIERS
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    zen got a reaction from mishra in Should India play Pakistan in WC now, after the terror attack?   
    If Ind decides to take aggressive position vs Pak why would it worry about hosting 2023 WC? It can sacrifice that and/or even take on ICC
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    zen got a reaction from Gollum in How did we lose to this SA side?   
    More imp SL were battle hardened after touring Aus and NZ 
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    zen got a reaction from Gollum in How did we lose to this SA side?   
    More imp SL were battle hardened after touring Aus and NZ 
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    zen reacted to velu in Ellyse Perry vs Bhuvneshwar Kumar !!!   
    Similar pace ... Swing bowlers  !!!
    Foxy as well  !!!
     
    @Nikola  
     
     
     
     
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    zen got a reaction from Tibarn in Respect for Dhawan!   
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    zen got a reaction from Tibarn in Respect for Dhawan!   
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    zen got a reaction from Detonator in Respect for Dhawan!   
    as an opener in ODIs. Has strong performances in ICC and world events. 
     
    iew overall figures [change view] Primary team India  Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or Pakistan  or South Africa  or Sri Lanka  or West Indies  Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983  Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket  or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut)  or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup)  or World Cup  Batting position between 1 and 2  Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200  Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 9 of 9   First Previous Next  Last  Return to query menu
    Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0   S Dhawan 2013-2017 13 13 1 919 137 76.58 933 98.49 4 4 0 SC Ganguly 1998-2007 15 15 2 869 183 66.84 1040 83.55 4 2 1 SR Tendulkar 1996-2011 31 30 0 1548 141 51.60 1778 87.06 4 9 1 V Sehwag 2002-2011 18 18 2 678 126 42.37 670 101.19 1 5 1 R Lamba 1989-1989 6 6 0 231 61 38.50 354 65.25 0 3 0 RJ Shastri 1983-1992 9 9 1 281 63* 35.12 581 48.36 0 4 0 SM Gavaskar 1983-1987 9 9 1 262 103* 32.75 320 81.87 1 1 0 RG Sharma 2013-2017 13 13 0 414 91 31.84 546 75.82 0 4 2 K Srikkanth 1983-1992 29 29 2 852 93* 31.55 1208 70.52 0 7 3  
     
    a good 50+ scores conversation rate ..... and contributes well when he does not reach 50 too:
     
    View overall figures [change view] Primary team India  Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or Pakistan  or South Africa  or Sri Lanka  or West Indies  Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1983  Trophy Benson & Hedges World Championship of Cricket  or ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut)  or MRF World Series (Nehru Cup)  or World Cup  Runs scored less than or equal to 49  Batting position between 1 and 2  Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100  Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6   First Previous Next  Last  Return to query menu
    Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0   S Dhawan 2013-2017 5 5 0 154 48 30.80 142 108.45 0 0 0 SR Tendulkar 1996-2011 18 17 0 362 45 21.29 521 69.48 0 0 1 V Sehwag 2002-2011 12 12 2 207 38 20.70 195 106.15 0 0 1 K Srikkanth 1983-1992 22 22 1 367 40 17.47 682 53.81 0 0 3 SC Ganguly 1998-2007 9 9 0 131 40 14.55 243 53.90 0 0 1 RG Sharma 2013-2017 9 9 0 128 34 14.22 211 60.66 0 0 2  
     
    Dhawan
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    zen reacted to Gollum in Na maan rahega, na hanuman, na shaktimaan: Pak media plumbing new depths   
    Not just Pak, most Muslims are like that. I once read an analogy that describes them perfectly:
     
    "Muslims are like a football team. The radicals/ terrorists are the strikers. The extremists are the midfielders who feed the radicals. The defenders are the moderate Muslims who create diversions, deflect, defend and save Islam from legitimate criticism and any accusations."
     
    All boils down to that lunatic barbaric 7th century death cult....greatest curse on humanity. 
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    zen reacted to Nikola in All time Fastest Pace Bowling All Rounder.   
    I doubt with that action he will be as quick as flintoff was. His bowling action isn't really going to have him long career as well but i guess if we talk about fastest pace bowling all rounder for India then he might be at top. Kapil was more of 130 - 135 and Irfan too was 133-135 at start. Hardik can avg 136 - 140 easily right now.
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    zen reacted to gakgupta in All time Fastest Pace Bowling All Rounder.   
    Can I say Hardik

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    zen got a reaction from diehardpacer in Try Pant as an opener   
    I understand that breaking Rohit-Dhawan is tough but iirc we broke Sachin-Ganguly too to bring in Sehwag. Now the par scores are even higher. This has to be evaluated objectively by the TM, who should not care from where runs come from but how and how fast 
     
    If I were TM, I would frame this as creating a new role for Rohit (mentioned Crowe and DeSilva here). Depending upon the opposition and since it is a long tourney, Rohit and Dhawan can be rotated too 
     
     
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    zen got a reaction from diehardpacer in Try Pant as an opener   
    In that case, playing anyone new will create chaos .... we can't ask Dhoni to retire then (Pant is expected to take over the gloves sooner or later) 
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    zen got a reaction from diehardpacer in Try Pant as an opener   
    Roy’s innings today vs WI is an example of what I expect the explosive opener (Pant) to do .... Playing like that also makes it easier for others in the team 
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    zen got a reaction from diehardpacer in Try Pant as an opener   
    FTR, Rohit vs major teams at ICC events 
     
    SENA+WI
    View overall figures [change view] Primary team India  Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or South Africa  or West Indies  Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013  Trophy ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut)  or World Cup  Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100  Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6   First Previous Next  Last  Return to query menu
    Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s   S Dhawan 2013-2017 7 7 1 516 137 86.00 509 101.37 3 1 0 59 7 AM Rahane 2015-2015 3 3 0 137 79 45.66 162 84.56 0 1 0 11 3 V Kohli 2013-2017 7 7 1 252 76* 42.00 303 83.16 0 1 0 25 2 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 7 5 1 155 65 38.75 162 95.67 0 1 1 12 3 RA Jadeja 2013-2017 7 5 2 111 47* 37.00 98 113.26 0 0 0 13 3 RG Sharma 2013-2017 7 7 0 179 65 25.57 243 73.66 0 2 1 19 4
     
    If you throw Pak in to the mix (6 major teams)
    View overall figures [change view] Primary team India  Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or Pakistan  or South Africa  or West Indies  Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2013  Trophy ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut)  or World Cup  Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 100  Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 7 of 7   First Previous Next  Last  Return to query menu
    Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s   S Dhawan 2013-2017 11 11 1 726 137 72.60 713 101.82 3 3 0 81 9 V Kohli 2013-2017 11 11 3 467 107 58.37 533 87.61 1 2 0 42 5 AM Rahane 2015-2015 4 4 0 137 79 34.25 163 84.04 0 1 1 11 3 MS Dhoni 2013-2017 11 7 1 177 65 29.50 191 92.67 0 1 1 13 4 RG Sharma 2013-2017 11 11 0 303 91 27.54 417 72.66 0 3 2 30 6  
     

    
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    zen got a reaction from diehardpacer in Try Pant as an opener   
    With Ind slotted to go into its last international engagement before the WC19 vs Aus to play 2 T20s and 5 ODIs, it is an opportunity for Ind to take new initiatives to strengthen its case for another WC title 
     
     
    One initiative would be to try Pant as the opener. But why Pant?
    Because he has the explosive game to take advantage of the PPs on batting friendly surfaces in Eng where par scores are expected to be 300+ (Eng has an RPO of 6.4 in Eng since 2016. This translates to a score of 320). On batting friendly surfaces, ideally, a team should try to be par RPO + 1 in PP. If par RPO is 6.4, we should be around 75 in the first 10     Pant is also expected to be in the WC squad. It appears as if Shaw and Agarwal are not being considered   
     
    But Rohit-Dhawan is a successful opening partnership, why should India tinker with it? And if it is tinkered, who should make the way for Pant? 
    Rohit-Dhawan is definitely a good pair. However, most of their success as a pair has come in bilaterals where the team gets to play the same opposition over a bunch of games, which helps players to eventually have some great games when they encounter batting friendly surfaces. In WC group games, you would play a different opposition till you meet a team again in the SF  If we take ICC and world events into consideration, Dhawan averages 77 with a SR of 98, while Rohit averages 32 with a SR of 76, which is similar to how openers played in 1980s  Additionally, Rohit SR is among the lowest till he gets to his 50. If we take his 50+ scores conversation ratio into account, it would translate in to 4-5 50+ scores in the 9 group games. However, if those 50+ scores come in games vs. the subcon teams, many of which are expected to not make it to the SFs, it will not benefit Ind, which could get knocked out by virtue of losing to strong SENA teams  Therefore, in ICC events, Dhawan could continue to open to leverage on his past good record in world events. Rohit can be played in the MO   
     
    But Rohit struggles in the MO
    As a MO batsman, Rohit averages 34, which is not much considering the options we have  However, Rohit played in the MO a long time ago. If he is an improved batsman now, he should be able to be successful in MO If not, it shows that players of similar talent cash in when opening so it would be hard to blame our MO if it fails It should not be about what benefits Rohit, but what benefits the team more   
     
    While it sounds great that a) Pant can potentially solve our problem of slow starts in PPs on good batting surfaces, b) if he gets going can take the game away from the other team, and c) If he fails, we would still have 9 wkts in hand including that of Rohit and Kohli, is it not too late to make changes for a key event like the WC? 
    As they say Man Plans, God Laughs. It is never late to make positive changes. A team is expected to not only rotate its players in a tourney, but also replace those who get injured. In 2011 WC, Ind did not expose Ashwin till the final few games iirc. In 1992 WC, Imran promoted himself to #3 in the final iirc. Dhoni promoted himself in WC2011 final too. Teams constantly have to evaluate their performance and make changes accordingly both in the tournament and in the games   
     
    Bonus
    Left handed openers do well in ICC events. Besides Dhawan's average of 77, Ganguly averages 67  
     
    So what are the next steps?
    Give Pant, if he is expected to be in the WC squad, an opportunity to open in LOIs vs Aus  Evaluate his performances to see how he can be used as an opener in the WC to counter some of the challenges discussed here and elsewhere  Last thing we want to do is not try at all. A bilateral series could serve to pad up the stats of the incumbent opener but may not help Ind in the world event to the extent they would have hoped   
     
    Over and Out! 
     
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    zen got a reaction from diehardpacer in Did Shubhman Gill get hard done by selectors?   
    I am a supporter of Gill but watching him in NZ (Though the batting conditions were relatively tough in games he played), gave me the impression that he needs a bit more polishing. Did not appear as “ready” as Shaw and Pant. Agarwal, who is much older, also looked like he belonged to international cricket straight away 
     
    Of the guys who made debut recently:  
     
    * Excellent (look good. have to adjust to the learning curve): Shaw, Pant and Agarwal 
    * Good (some tinkering required) : Shankar and Gill
    * Average (need to work hard to improve the game for international cricket): Vihari (makes me want to questions domestic stats) 
     
     
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    zen reacted to mani sha in England are an extremely scary ODI side.   
    its the mindset that has changed
     
    they have batting depth , experience and coach who believes in a philosophy 
    none of their players are super talented but talent ( aka sharma ) is overrated
     
    their philosophy is simple yet difficult to execute . they give chances to allrounders to excel in batting . they know that with two new balls , upto 375 us chaseable if u batt till number 11
     
    teams who can stop england will have to-
     
    bowl exceedingly well in first 15 and last 15 
    have ability to chase 325 still and score 350 batting first 
     
    only windies with gayle and a bunch of t20 specialists ( power hitters ) with good strong fast bowlers has the ability to upset england . 
     
    its going to be a wi vs eng finals and wi will win 
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    zen got a reaction from philcric in All Rounders do not exist.   
    Let's make it simple - only ATG teams are strong (and many of them played ARs too) ..... Since all other teams are weak (including the ones currently playing relative to ATG teams), the discussion is closed, i.e. all current teams need utility (AR) players (and therefore ARs exist too)  
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    zen got a reaction from philcric in All Rounders do not exist.   
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