Jump to content


  • Content count

  • Runs

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Time Online

    35d 57m 46s

Everything posted by sarcastic

  1. Can India field a second ODI side and qualify for CT?

    So, this is your time to relish I suppose. Really did not understand what the OP was smoking though!!!!
  2. India vs Sri Lanka | 8th June ,2017 | Oval | Match thread

    Batsman was already in.
  3. Game slipping away ...

    Let us not think/write these quick knee-jerk reactions like our Padosis. Sri Lanka has a long way to go and one wicket and they are all done in a quick time. If people followed the SL vs SA game, they would have known what I am talking about. As I write they still have 200 more runs to get in 28 overs which is very tough.
  4. Rohit-Dhawan - Slow but one of the best ever for India?

    It may be a hard pill to accept to all of us, they will end up as the second-best ODI pair from India after the great SRT-SG pair which brought Indian ODI cricket to the formidable level in the late 90's.
  5. Has Yuvi given a phainty for all his detractors

    Excellent article on UV The madness of Yuvraj Singh MUKUL KESAVAN Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Like against Pakistan last week, when he walks out onto the biggest stage, his eyes shine with a certain insanity 0shares Still hitting after all these years © Getty Images When Rohit Sharma was given run-out and Yuvraj Singh replaced him in India's Champions Trophy match against Pakistan, it felt like a flashback. Yuvraj has been around so long, he carries the past to the crease when he walks out to bat. A bit like MS Dhoni; so literally has Virat Kohli remade this team in his image -- all those kohlibeards -- that a clean-shaven Dhoni behind the stumps comes as a shock, like a ghost from another time, with gloves on. Dhoni and Yuvraj are both 35 (Dhoni is fractionally older) but it's Yuvraj who is swaddled with the aura of another era. This is partly down to the fact that his struggle with cancer and a dip in form saw him disappear from the international stage for four long years. But it's also because he has been playing for longer than Dhoni has; his career is as old as this century. I watched him at Lord's 15 years ago to the month, winning the second match of the Natwest Series for India in heroic style. I had spent the morning on a train, riding up to London, so by the time I got on the bus the match had begun. It didn't help that Lord's was a couple of miles from the nearest bus stop, obscurely called Swiss Cottage. I got to the ground two hours into the match to find England disastrously well placed: 200 and a few for three with 12 overs to go. Yuvraj strangled the England innings in the closing overs and took three wickets to keep the score down to 271, and then, in partnership with Rahul Dravid, smacked Matthew Hoggard and Co all over that strange tilted ground to make the target with more than an over in hand. He was a magnificent prospect: a useful left-arm spinner, electric-heeled in the field, who batted like Bheem padded up. Yuvraj and Mohammad Kaif seemed like the future of Indian cricket. That wasn't to be. Kaif never quite made the grade at the highest level, and it wasn't in Yuvraj's nature to be a constant star; he has been India's limited-overs comet, blazing trails of glory in between disappearing from the night sky. But here he was, ten years after he last played an ODI in England, having missed the two warm-up games because of a fever, walking out to play the first match of a big tournament against the old enemy. The openers had built a big platform, then Kohli helped Rohit get the score up to 192 before the opener was unluckily run out. India were comfortably placed, but thanks to rain breaks and an initially subdued performance from Kohli, there was a danger that the 300-plus score that seemed certain earlier, was slipping from India's grasp. The innings needed velocity. Enter Yuvraj. There are sporting moments that seem scripted by a higher power but it wasn't clear that this late-model buccaneer was up to reprising the star turns he had played in the past. Wahab Riaz made him hop with a short one that he played down uncomfortably, and then whistled one past his head at 92mph. Nobody likes fast bouncers and Yuvraj likes them less than most. Then Wahab pitched one up and Yuvraj reflexively played his patented flick through midwicket for four. The turning point of the innings came immediately afterwards, against the excellent young legspinner, Shadab Khan, who had already troubled the top order with a hard-to-pick googly. He bowled another one, temptingly tossed up, and Yuvraj went for it. He pranced down the pitch, planted his front foot and swung, aiming for the stands beyond the straight boundary. He was beaten in flight, done by the turn and managed only to lift it into the hands of the mid-off fielder… who dropped it. Yuvraj, more than any batsman I've seen, lives to perform, to strut his stuff, to make crowds gasp and people respond to that. He's a latter-day Salim Durani After this it was a vintage Yuvraj innings, which is not to say that it was perfect, because then it wouldn't be a vintage Yuvraj innings. Wahab tested him with a fast bouncer again and Yuvraj, in Ricky Ponting's words, "pull-ducked": he swished at the ball and tried to get out of its way all at once. Even as the commentators speculated about Wahab pitching one up after having unsettled Yuvraj with the bouncer, the bowler decided that his killer ball would be a slow long hop outside the off stump. Yuvraj, who had taken the precaution of backing away, gratefully extended his arms and smeared it through cover for four. The die was cast. Mohammad Amir, Pakistan's best fast bowler, decided to test Yuvraj with a slow bouncer for reasons best known to him. Yuvraj, weeping with joy inside though grim without, swatted it through midwicket for four. When he inside-edged Hasan Ali behind the wicketkeeper for four, he knew it was his day. The next time Ali pitched it up, he hit him straight so hard it should have set the turf on fire. Upon which Ali decided to bounce him. Yuvraj likes medium-paced bouncers; it's not the short ball that bothers him; it is the fast short ball. He was waiting for it. There's no sight in cricket that thrills the desi fan more than Yuvraj standing tall, swivelling and whaling the ball deep into the square-leg stands. He was off. His captain said that Yuvraj was hitting the ball so well, he felt like a club cricketer at the non-striker's end. That straight drive off Hasan Ali was Yuvraj summed up in a single shot: a flamboyant backlift and no follow-through at all; the bat stopped at the point of impact and the ball raced to the boundary. It wasn't a long innings - 53 runs off 32 balls - but it was enough to win him the Man-of-the-Match award despite the fact that he had been outscored by Dhawan, Rohit and Kohli. I think he won it because Yuvraj, more than any batsman I've seen, lives to perform, to strut his stuff, to make crowds gasp and people respond to that. He's a latter-day Salim Durani. It's a low-percentage, high-wire act and when it comes off, we are seduced both by his neediness and his heroics. He has played for India for over 17 years now and won everything there is to win in the limited-overs game: that NatWest Trophy, the inaugural 2007 World T20, and above all, the 2011 World Cup. He didn't win his medals anonymously, by being part of a powerful squad; no, he left his mark on all those tournaments. He won four Man-of-the-Match awards on the way to the World Cup final and he was the player of the tournament. But for me and many of his admirers, the Everest of his long career was that over in South Africa where he hit a young Stuart Broad (who used to look like Little Lord Fauntleroy on stilts) for six sixes. Two sixes into the over, the camera focused on Yuvraj's face and every desi watching realized that the loon was going to go for it. Supporting a team in a big match is a kind of madness, a junoon, and what we saw in his eyes was an answering insanity. The third six went over extra cover, the fourth over backward point, and the fifth and sixth over square leg and midwicket, but where they went didn't matter; it was enough that he had been crazed enough to try. That's the excitement that Yuvraj will be remembered for, well after more organised batsmen with better records are forgotten. He isn't as sprightly as he used to be, but he has survived bouncers and cancer, and when he walks out to bat his eyes still glint with arena madness, that promise that he might set the place on fire again. Mukul Kesavan is a writer based in New Delhi. This article was first published in the Kolkata Telegraph
  6. Has Yuvi given a phainty for all his detractors

    Well, I mean yes to them too if they are good enough to contribute positively towards Indian team. Doubt Nehra is fit enough for ODIs anymore and the problem with Gambhir is more mental (perhaps his off field politics including) and hence discarded. I am not saying bring every buddha but that players who are older in age but whom we know were good and who are still doing good in domestics should be respected and not sidelined just because of their age.
  7. Has Yuvi given a phainty for all his detractors

    Well, I have no disagreement with your post here. I am saying that people tend to hype up the youngsters and just talk of blooding them in just because they are young and have some good knocks in IPL. But some one like Yuvraj is class and he proved it for a long time. The fact that he has been doing well in domestics has given the selectors confidence to have him vs England series. His 150 gave the confidence now. I am saying that someone like UV is always "gold" unless offcourse his reflexes go completely down. We cannot just put him aside based on the fact that some youngster is doing well somewhere.
  8. Has Yuvi given a phainty for all his detractors

    It is not about how old a person gets but it is all about how good he still is as far as his playing role is concerned. Let us not judge a person solely by physical age which is not always the best indicator of how good the player is but how well he performs on the field.
  9. ICC CT | India vs Pakistan, 4th June, Edgbaston.

    Can someone please give a good link where detailed video match highlights are posted? Thanks in advance.
  10. Has Yuvi given a phainty for all his detractors

    Not really as Kohli too was struggling for a good part of the innings. UV's innings singly changed the momentum of the innings and put the team on track.
  11. Has Rohit Sharma cost us this game?

    He could have easily upped it if he stayed for little more time and gone over 100 S/R. I am not defending his approach but let us be honest that is also good most of the time. He was supporting Shikar Dhawan when he was doing well and later on got out while accelerating later.
  12. ICC CT | India vs Pakistan, 4th June, Edgbaston.

    He is slowly starting to accelerate now. He was supporting Dhawan who was in flow and slowly coming into his good form slowly. He could have covered everything very quickly if he finished his 100.
  13. What do you make of Guha's mail and accustions?

    Not sure how you can say that but sure Pujara has much more mature and stable head than that of the latter. Pujara may also be more hard working and worked on a different kind of skills which Rohit did not (as Beetle says too). But common, Rohit did many things that Pujara or many cricketers could not. There is no doubt about the fragility of Rohit Sharma's mindset or temperament and his inadequacy for test format demonstrated so far, but let us not go far in denying Rohit the "talented" tag which he probably deserves.
  14. Why are people belittling "Dodda Ganesh" here. He has applied for a coach and not as a senior player or something. A so so player can also be very good coach for all we know.
  15. That is for sure true and am not sure about the second part of who seriously argues that he is better than Virat! Inspite of being a mental midget (or maggi man as they say) and not as mentally capable as he was thought to be and definitely not fulfilling the promise with which he was held, Rohit Sharma is a charismatic cricketer who has the aura to attract crowds to the stadium. There is no doubt about it that even the starkest of his critic feels deep within that this might be the awesome(st) innings due today when he arrives and looks good at the crease. And that matters for cricket administrators or experts or some kind of fans!
  16. Very poor team selection from MSK Prasad

    I never understood who were the real villains of our embarrassing defeat. People always blame Kohli or Ashwin or someone else. It is so clear to see Rahane and Karthik are clearly the real culprits. They robbed team India of at least 25-30 runs which would have been match winning.
  17. Please don't equate all sunnis to what some extremists have done. We cannot generalize every sunni muslim to be the one you are referring to!!!
  18. Will education make world a safer place ?

    Education of masses may not be a permanent solution but is definitely a step in the right direction towards the enlightenment of masses. It is at least much easier to talk with a person who knows common sense and what critical thinking is and what rational understanding of world is than a person who knows nothing about the same. If more or more people are educated, at least a small percentage of them will become open-minded and sensible w.r.t. their outlook of life and understand why every one else is also as right as they themselves are. This over a long period of time will result in more percentage of people becoming open-minded and rational and finally lead to the end of religious bigotry and fanaticism for good.
  19. Any canadian ICFers from the toronto area?

    Yes, it is only $4. But I felt that the cost is kinda weird since they anyways have the cameras fixed and they do photograph for most cars (without a transponder). Also, there is a cost associated with buying a transponder. Why will someone not living in GTA need that for a usually not frequently required 407. Also, if I remember correctly, there is another cost associated with opening the account. They open the account (for your car) themselves and charge you in the first bill. 407 is good if you live near at one end and work at a relatively far end of GTA area (both of which are closer to 407) and do not want to waste your valuable time on road that you can spend with your family since it significantly reduces the time of travel. Then such a person can get a transponder and even avoid camera charges. 407 is hardly beneficial for a very occasional visitor to GTA unless off course there is some other urgent need to reduce travel time (and the very pathetic way 401 ends up in some weekends).
  20. Another day...another explosion..why?

    Seems a good explanation from the viewpoint of some Jihadis who do not want any "true" muslim to be even indirectly affected/hurt in performing jihad. The orator brings in true quotations from the holy Quran which apparently considers music as "haraam".
  21. Any canadian ICFers from the toronto area?

    Expect above $ 20 or so if you take it nearly at Burlington and go up to Brampton. As Zen says, it depends upon many factors but easily goes up the more you travel on that road.
  22. Any canadian ICFers from the toronto area?

    It will certainly be quicker but is definitely costlier than what you would most likely want to pay. I felt it is a bit expensive to take it unless you are in some good reason to take it, it is probably not worth it. They charge some camera fees etc. too (I mean for using their cameras to photograph your nameplate) making the bill look weird.
  23. Yes, he did in the last league match of MI against KKR. This brings another point into discussion. That how can a team containing Dinda in its team roster win the IPL title.
  24. Can Mumbai go 0-4 against Dhoni this season?

    You seem a very good poster here on ICF and I respect most of the points you give. But you cannot have been more mistaken and more pawned than this thread.... I personally respect Dhoni a lot and he is much better role-model than most people including Rohit Sharma (who unforutnately is perhaps an example of how you should not miss reaching expectations) but Rohit has his wood over Dhoni in all IPL finals so far!!!
  25. The Kanitkar hand in Dinesh Karthik’s metamorphosis “In the limited-overs tournaments especially, he was very helpful for Vijay Shankar. Dinesh’s performance should be viewed in a very all-round way, and not just the runs,” says Kanitkar. © Wisden India It was a first-round fixture of the Ranji Trophy 2016-17 season, the Tamil Nadu v Mumbai match in Lahli, and it was precariously poised. Tamil Nadu had conceded a sizeable first-innings lead on a tough pitch, but their openers had fought back well to wipe out the deficit in the second innings with a century stand. Soon, the baton was passed to the most experienced player in the Tamil Nadu squad – Dinesh Karthik. They had collapsed to 87 all out in the first innings, and it was up to him to prevent an encore. To borrow from a now-popular meme template, experts would have expected him to bat through, playing ‘authentic’ shots. Karthik, though, had other ideas; he unleashed a cheeky paddle-scoop, only to see the ball land in short fine-leg’s hands. It sparked a massive Tamil Nadu collapse that led to Mumbai prevailing in the low-scoring game, and Karthik’s ‘ill-advised’ shot was singled out by local media. Something happened in the four-day gap before the next game that triggered a major turnaround. Barely days later, Tamil Nadu were in an eerily similar situation against Railways in Bilaspur, with Karthik under the spotlight again. This time, he smashed 163 off 145 balls, setting up a comfortable victory for his team. Karthik didn’t look back and went on to finish the Ranji Trophy with 704 runs at an average of 54.15. He then went even better it in the limited-overs competitions, making 854 runs from 12 innings, including centuries in the Vijay Hazare and Deodhar Trophy finals that led Tamil Nadu to twin titles. It was the fourth highest tally ever in a List A season in Indian cricket. The ‘event’ that led to the remarkable upswing in Karthik’s fortunes was a brief conversation with Hrishikesh Kanitkar, Tamil Nadu’s coach. A dressing down for a rash, game-changing shot wouldn’t have been misplaced, but Kanitkar dealt with it differently. “It was probably the first time he saw me (play). A lot of people might not have expected it and in fact there were a lot of harsh things written,” Karthik tells Wisden India. “But all he told me was ‘instead of playing the paddle sweep, I think you should have hit over the top’. It was pretty refreshing. He didn’t give me an option saying the situation wasn’t good, you should have probably defended. He knew defending was not a great option on that wicket for long periods of time and that it was important to take the attack to the opposition. He told me I could have gone over the top or played a shot different to this. “If a coach yells and says this is not the way a senior player should play, these are the shots you should play or you should play more authentic cricket, I would have been under pressure the next time I wanted to execute that shot. But now I knew that he would back me even if I played that shot and got it wrong, because you can get out cover-driving a ball or even defending. It’s not how you get out, it’s the amount of runs you score before you get out that matters. I’m a believer of that. “He comes across as a very good human being who is very content with whatever he has achieved. I think that’s a very important aspect of a sportsperson,” says Karthik about Kanitkar. © Wisden India “Credit to him for giving me a lot of space. He has never shown any sort of reaction that is negative in any way. He has been very calm throughout. I failed in the first three innings in the Ranji Trophy. He never asked a word, he didn’t speak to me and allowed me to be. A lot of times, players go through their own pressures and it’s important for a coach to be non-interfering at times. He did that.” Remind Kanitkar of that conversation, and you can see that there’s mutual respect between the coach and player. “For experienced cricketers, I like to give them a lot of space because they have been successful for a reason and I respect that,” says Kanitkar. “What I would have done in that situation would be completely different to what Dinesh would do. That was an instinctive shot he played. Basically, I told him that his choice to hit that ball for a four or six was fine with me because that’s how his instincts work. So that’s okay, that’s no problem. But I felt the choice of where to hit that ball could have been better. “You have to remember that the player wants to do his best. There’s no point curbing natural talent. The moment you say something that’s offensive or puts fear in a player, it means you’re taking away his own ability to think, plan and execute. If the coach himself is taking away confidence from the player, what’s left for the opposition to do? Nothing. “Having played at the first-class level for 19 years, I’ve also made those mistakes at some point. What usually happens is people forget that they’ve also made mistakes when they were playing, and after they retire they suddenly become great players. I don’t want to be like that. I’ve accepted what all bad shots I’ve played in my career and I shouldn’t forget that, and there was no intention to go after any player, not only Dinesh.” It’s these qualities of Kanitkar that Karthik not only admires, but also aspires to imbibe, especially beyond the cricket field. “A very key word I associate with him is –he’s a very satisfied human being,” explains Karthik. “I don’t think he has any regret on his career or frustrated about things that probably could have happened. He comes across as a very good human being who is very content with whatever he has achieved. I think that’s a very important aspect of a sportsperson. “Sometimes you can still constantly live in those years when you were playing, even after finishing. He has moved on in a very graceful manner. I genuinely feel I’ll be a person who’ll be like that when I finish my career, because I feel playing and coaching are different things. I think he has identified that to a large extent. “Hrishikesh the coach and Hrishikesh the player are two very detached people. I don’t think they mix and mingle much. I’ve seen that trait a lot in Rahul Dravid and even Matthew Hayden, from whatever interactions I’ve had with him. They don’t talk about their cricketing days a lot, which I admire. Because if you still keep talking about your days, it’s very hard to understand current-day players’ mindset. I really like that about Hrishi. He is very calm and quiet.” Also read: Do away with toss, return to home and away format, says Karthik ‘Calm’ and ‘quiet’ are two words that are hard to associate with Karthik. He is restless in whatever he does and he is happy to be the way he is. “Being restless is something that’s very me,” he says. “I have all my set of restless rituals before the bowler starts his run up but once he does, I think I’m in decent space. All those nervy things that look very restless from outside is very Dinesh Karthik. I don’t think I can change it, and I don’t want to change it as well.” Dinesh Karthik has totalled 190 runs from the first seven games Gujarat Lions have played, the runs coming at an average of 38 and a strike rate of 136.69. © BCCI But one word that can be used to describe Karthik, according to Kanitkar, is ‘responsible’. The coach believes that the responsibility Karthik accepted led to another aspect of batting that was generally not associated with him – consistency. “He took responsibility for everything he did and the team benefited as well,” points out Kanitkar. “He was looking at a bigger cause than himself. He was looking at how the team can reach the knockouts and such things rather than I should get a 100 or a 50. His cause was much higher than personal gains and that really, really brought the best out of him. “In the limited-overs tournaments especially, he was very helpful for Vijay Shankar (the captain). Dinesh’s performance should be viewed in a very all-round way, and not just the runs.” According to Karthik, the consistency is a result of working with multiple people, including Abhishek Nayar, over the last few years. More importantly, he says it’s a consequence of calmness in the mind, although it doesn’t necessarily show on the exterior. “I went to Prasanna Aghoram (video analyst) in 2013 to improve on my technique, I went to (Pravin) Amre sir a year ago to work on my back lift,” he says. “These are small things I’ve changed in my batting and the fruits of all those hard works are showing now. They all played their roles in my life and helped me become the batsman I am today. “What I’ve realised is that for the next level, what’s most important is the mental make-up. How you approach your innings, how you plan it. I had this conversation with Virat (Kohli) the last time I was in the Indian team in the Asia Cup (2014). “He opened up on a few things that I hadn’t been doing, which he does personally. That was great insight, actually. I remember I had a heartfelt conversation with him. He gave me a few tips on what he was doing in terms of preparation and all that. At that stage, I found it hard to relate to that. But over a period of time, having Abhishek Nayar by my side, I was able to put things more in context and those things have been of tremendous help of late.” In every way, the season that went by – or is going on, if you include the Indian Premier League – has been a successful one for Karthik. At 31, it remains to be seen if it will lead to a second wind in his international career.

Guest, sign in to access all features.