Indian Musician who is better than A.R Rahman

Cricketics · 03-02-2009, 01:10 AM

Shankar Mahadevan.

I really admire this man. His music has been pretty good in almost every movie he has given music to.

I think he is as good as Rahman.

holysmoke · 03-02-2009, 01:12 AM

Dont forget Ehsaan-Loy

ludhianvi · 03-02-2009, 01:13 AM

I liked the Breathless song

rahuliverpool · 03-02-2009, 01:25 AM

TZP, JBJ. excellent songs

rahuliverpool · 03-02-2009, 01:26 AM

Vishal/Shekhar have started well too

Zap_Brannigan · 03-02-2009, 01:53 AM

Not as good. Good but not even close.

Online · 03-02-2009, 02:01 AM

he sucks

rkt.india · 03-02-2009, 04:19 AM

i dont think so

Shehezaada · 03-02-2009, 04:41 AM

Quote by Cricketics

Shankar Mahadevan.

I really admire this man. His music has been pretty good in almost every movie he has given music to.

I think he is as good as Rahman.

not even close. Rahman combines beats, tunes, hooks and different cultures of music like no one else in the history of music. Only person comparable to Rahman would prolly be Dre.

Shankar Mahadeven is a great singer, fantastic range, good voice, good sense of beat. But as a composer? Any standouts that he's produced that have just gotten you to listen to them again and again? What's his best song? Probably Bol Na Halke Halke, which was brilliant.

But how many can you quote from Rehman? Saathiya, Dil Se, Chaiyya Chaiyya, Satrangi Re, just fantastic songs.

Comparing Rehman and Mahadevan is like comparing Tendulkar vs Nohit Sharma.

fineleg · 03-02-2009, 05:47 AM

Good, but far below ARR

rahulrulezz · 03-02-2009, 06:05 AM

Quote by Cricketics

Shankar Mahadevan.

I really admire this man. His music has been pretty good in almost every movie he has given music to.

I think he is as good as Rahman.

Shankar Mahadevan has got Himesh's Keeda !!....... he sings almost all his songs and screws them up(specially with good tunes)............example,Shankar totally scrwed up this song "Tere Naina" from CCTC ......the tune is soo good but he oldie voice totally messed it up ... he should know that he is too old for these songs..........i still dont like Jhoom Barabar title song coz of Shankars voice(it was originally supposed to be sung by Daler Mehndi)... ....Rahman voice quality and range is way way way better than S.Mahadevan but unlike Shankar, Rahman still gives chance to new comers in almost all his songs...

P.S. - Shankar has promised..God knows how many singers in Saregama that he will give them a break in the industry... and only 2 singers were the lucky ones( in that too Amanat got only 1 line to sing)... ...on the other hand, Rahman recently has given break to almost 10 singers WITHOUT ANY PROMISE on National T.V.

Gambit · 03-02-2009, 06:15 AM

Quote by Shehezaada

not even close. Rahman combines beats, tunes, hooks and different cultures of music like no one else in the history of music. Only person comparable to Rahman would prolly be Dre.

Shankar Mahadeven is a great singer, fantastic range, good voice, good sense of beat. But as a composer? Any standouts that he's produced that have just gotten you to listen to them again and again? What's his best song? Probably Bol Na Halke Halke, which was brilliant.

But how many can you quote from Rehman? Saathiya, Dil Se, Chaiyya Chaiyya, Satrangi Re, just fantastic songs.

Comparing Rehman and Mahadevan is like comparing Tendulkar vs Nohit Sharma.

Umm..how about Dil Chahta Hai, Taare Zameen Par,Don,Rock On,Lakshya?

The following songs are almost good as some of ARR's best tunes -

Kholo Kholo - TZP
Maa - TZP
Dil Chahta Hai - DCH
Aaj ki raat - Don
Main Aisa Kyun Hoon - Lakshya

kumble_rocks · 03-02-2009, 06:15 AM

Shanker Mahadevan was a fa.gg*t who got lucky , Still remember exchanging cigarette with this ********** along with my bro' in the corridors of SIES , Sion munbai .. At that time this guy was a nobody who lived on borrowed wealth ... now this FAC.K ****** refuses to take my bro' call , so much for loyalty ...!

Gambit · 03-02-2009, 06:16 AM

And while ARR is a superior composer to SM, SM is the much better singer out of the two. Simply no comparison there.

suraj · 03-02-2009, 06:19 AM

Quote by kumble_rocks

Shanker Mahadevan was a fa.gg*t who got lucky , Still remember exchanging ***s with this would be along with my bro' in the corridors of SIES , Sion munbai .. At that time this guy was a nobody who lived on borrowed wealth ... now this **** ****** refuses to take my bro' call , so much for loyalty ...!

You can replace Shankar Mahadevan for any celebrity in the world in this statement

they were all exchanging notes with someone unknown @ some stage of their lives and are claimed as disloyal by thousands who have gotten close to them for even one second of their lives

On another note Mahadevan as good as Rehman

big no no

Rajiv · 03-02-2009, 06:20 AM

AR Rahman and etc, came recently but no one can beat the great Kishore

suraj · 03-02-2009, 06:24 AM

Quote by Reggie

AR Rahman and etc, came recently but no one can beat the great Kishore

Singer vs Composer

DUH!!!!!

kumble_rocks · 03-02-2009, 06:35 AM

Quote by suraj

You can replace Shankar Mahadevan for any celebrity in the world in this statement

they were all exchanging notes with someone unknown @ some stage of their lives and are claimed as disloyal by thousands who have gotten close to them for even one second of their lives

On another note Mahadevan as good as Rehman

big no no

I would agree bro ; , I guess my post may be construed as bitter , Shanker Mahadevan was a product of SIES college Mubai and he was a nobody when he was into his graduation . To be honest , I never thought this fat lard who happened to be a good friend of bro' would become something . I still have that TDK cassette with me , his singing composition.. he had that deep voice, but to be honest , in my wildest dream , would I have dared to figure that this guy would become what he has become .... and he did it ..good luck to him !

veer · 03-02-2009, 06:41 AM

SM is not at the same level but definitely under-rated..

rahulrulezz · 03-02-2009, 06:46 AM

Quote by Gambit

And while ARR is a superior composer to SM, SM is the much better singer out of the two. Simply no comparison there.

you JOKING me!!!

Shankar Mahadevan's BAAP cant sing Vande Matram, Yeh jo Des hai Tera, Lukka Chupiii with the way Rahman sung..All these 3 songs bring Goosegumps everytime i hear ..love these songs

YouTube - Yeh Jo Des Hai Tera - Swades \|...

YouTube - Vande Mataram - Maa Tujhe Salaam...

YouTube - Lukka Chuppi

Though AR Rahman is a famous composer, he is the most underrated singer..here are the some of the gems of his songs sung by him

YouTube - Tere Bina (Guru) by A R Rehman (Full...

YouTube - Tu bole mein bolun full song-jaane tu...

YouTube - Khwaja Mere Khawaja-Jodhaa Akbar

Rajiv · 03-02-2009, 06:48 AM

Quote by suraj

Singer vs Composer

DUH!!!!!

AR Rahman is ?
Mahadevan is ?

KK was singer and composer my friend

Rajiv · 03-02-2009, 06:49 AM

Quote by kumble_rocks

Shanker Mahadevan was a fa.gg*t who got lucky , Still remember exchanging cigarette with this ********** along with my bro' in the corridors of SIES , Sion munbai .. At that time this guy was a nobody who lived on borrowed wealth ... now this FAC.K ****** refuses to take my bro' call , so much for loyalty ...!

most celebrities dont, unless u were close! If I start a list here then it would mean all those are SOB's and btw in bollywood - luck is 90% job done

Gambit · 03-02-2009, 06:53 AM

Quote by rahulrulezz

you JOKING me!!!

Shankar Mahadevan's BAAP cant sing Vande Matram, Yeh jo Des hai Tera, Lukka Chupiii with the way Rahman sung..All these 3 songs bring Goosegumps everytime i hear ..love these songs

SM's baap might not be able to sing all that but SM is a better singer than ARR. Let's just accept that as fact and move on. Basically, ARR is a bowling all rounder and SM is a batting all rounder(where bowling = composing and batting=singing).

graphic23 · 03-02-2009, 06:59 AM

Have a lot of respect for Shankar Mahadevan. His voice range is awesome and of course the ability to sing breathless for a 5 minute song is an awesome talent. As a composer, he cannot be judged alone (because of Ehsaan and Loy) but I (quite obviously) feel that Rahman's a far superior composer to the trio inspite of Dil Chahta Hai and Taare Zameen Par. They've come out with a lot of mediocre work along with very good works with great only belonging to the aforementioned works.

As a singer, I think he pips Rahman in terms of pure singing ability. The songs he's sung is another matter because he sings all sorts of masala ones (for other composers as well )along with good ones while Rahman sings for himself and sings only the top-class stuff in his compositions that suit his voice.

I think Rahman, the singer, chooses very very judiciously the songs he sings and so they come out very well (eg. "Rehna Tu" from Delhi-6 and all the songs mentioned above by Rahulrulez, and ofcourse "Dil Se Re" from Dil Se).

suraj · 03-02-2009, 07:02 AM

Quote by Reggie

AR Rahman is ?
Mahadevan is ?

KK was singer and composer my friend

If you are comparing KK the composer to AR the composer I have nothing to say to you

On the flip side If you are comparing AR the singer to KK the singer I have nothing to say to you again

Your analogies are all screwed up because you are comparing North and South in 2 different categories where one doesn't hold candle to the other in each of his domain

If you are combining both and comparing the two over vastly different eras I am not nerd enuff to get into that argument

to me- AR Rehamn is the best composer we have had to date

Kishore da is the best singer we have had to date!!!

Rajiv · 03-02-2009, 07:02 AM

rahmans material is abstract and has lot of depth, the shankar eshan loy group caters to your new gen bollywood music with catchy tunes, recently the stuff from dostana was awesome

Gambit · 03-02-2009, 07:03 AM

Also, just for the record, Sukhvinder pwns Mahadevan and ARR as a singer.

Rajiv · 03-02-2009, 07:07 AM

Quote by suraj

If you are comparing KK the composer to AR the composer I have nothing to say to you

On the flip side If you are comparing AR the singer to KK the singer I have nothing to say to you again

Your analogies are all screwed up because you are comparing North and South in 2 different categories where one doesn't hold candle to the other in each of his domain

If you are combining both and comparing the two over vastly different eras I am not nerd enuff to get into that argument

to me- AR Rehamn is the best composer we have had to date

Kishore da is the best singer we have had to date!!!

I don't doubt your expertise and can't comment on the nerd factor!

All I am saying is in IMO, no one better than KK - he was a perfect allrounder - music and composition

Rajiv · 03-02-2009, 07:08 AM

Quote by Gambit

Also, just for the record, Sukhvinder pwns Mahadevan and ARR as a singer.

hmm, perhaps a personal choice

Rajiv · 03-02-2009, 07:18 AM

oh btw, whateva happened to Sonu Nigam..is he still around

varun · 03-02-2009, 08:18 AM

Quote by Gambit

Also, just for the record, Sukhvinder pwns Mahadevan and ARR as a singer.

Funny you mentioned these 3 names. I went for a concert in LA a few years back where all 3 of them were present. Sukhvinder was the best live performer out there, and the opinion was shared amongst our pretty large group which included some hardcore ARR fans.

Mahadevan was good, though I wouldn't put him above ARR as far as live performance goes.

Sonu Nigam was there too and he, despite having a large contingent of shouting female fans, failed to deliver.

satishg · 03-02-2009, 08:27 AM

Shankar Mahadevan is no where close to ARR as a music composer..Rahman is way above him..as a singer I feel it is quite close but being a biased Rahmaniac i wud go with ARR as a better singer too..I still cant imagine anyone else singing this particular song better than ARR..this is his best ever song as a singer..

YouTube - Sillunu Oru Kadhal - New York Nagaram -...

he has literally lived this song :)

Cricketics · 03-02-2009, 08:42 AM

And Kailash Kher and Sonu Nigam and K.K own all these Rahmans or any other singer.

THREE CHEERS FOR THREESOME - KHER, NIGAM AND KK

suraj · 03-02-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote by Cricketics

holy cow. it's about 1 feet of snow alredy. and still snowing.

Yeh is thread mein kyun post kiya??

Cricketics · 03-02-2009, 03:45 PM

galtise ho gaya yaar. let me post it in the other.

Shehezaada · 03-02-2009, 03:46 PM

Quote by Gambit

Umm..how about Dil Chahta Hai, Taare Zameen Par,Don,Rock On,Lakshya?

The following songs are almost good as some of ARR's best tunes -

Kholo Kholo - TZP
Maa - TZP
Dil Chahta Hai - DCH
Aaj ki raat - Don
Main Aisa Kyun Hoon - Lakshya

What about them?

any of the songs you've mentioned, do they mix hooks and beats as well as Rahman does? Listen to Baadal from Yuva, it's just outstanding. Especially between the first and second stanzas where he throws a keyboard, violin, and tabla at you. It's ridiculous. Maa? What's so good about that song? The lyrics maybe are touching but the song itself is nothing special. Rock on was TERRIBLE in every sense of the word. Aaj Ki Raat is good to listen to, but it doesn't touch you. Main Aisa Kyun Hoon is different and a wonderful listen, but it's not seamlessly put together like Oh Humdum Suniyo Re.

Dil Chahta Hai vs Dil Se, Taare Zameen Par vs Roja, Don vs Saathiya, Rock on v s Delhi 6? Not one of those albums have nearly the variety and class to keep up with Rahman.

Listen to Dil Gira Daaftan from Delhi 6...the music at the chorus is off the hook. He's a master at combining different, simple instruments together and slapping together good beats as part of the package. The other good thing is that he doesn't crowd together a piece with a LOT of instruments, he doesn't let them confuse you. Kholo Kholo is an example of Mahadevan's work that DOES do this. They each have their small part to play and it just works together. Keep in mind that Rahman is not perfect, he's come up with a lot of crap in the past couple of years.

What's the difference between Tendulkar's straight drive and Nohit's straight drive? You might look at Nohit's drive and go...damn, nice shot, bastard looks in good form. But Tendulkar's? The purity, the simplicity, just shocks you. It stays with you for the longest time. Just makes you speechless. Rahman is Tendulkar, Nohit is Mahadevan.

ARR is very similar to Dre in that sense. Willing to go out and just experiment with anything and everything. And he's a perfectionist. Dre's base lines in G-Funk are ridiculous, just like ARR's today.

Shehezaada · 03-02-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote by Gambit

Also, just for the record, Sukhvinder pwns Mahadevan and ARR as a singer.

how? Each has their positives and negatives, their own ranges, their own type of music that suits them.

Sukhwinder Singh is one of my favorite singers..has a great range, very much in sur, excellent knowledge of beats and can sing in multiple languages. Also his voice has depth, can sing songs that are very high in pitch and very low as well. But imagine his voice in songs like Ishq Hua, Is Pal from Aaja Nachle. Not a good fit.

Mahadevan is the more talented singer out of all three and his sense of music is outstanding as a singer as well. In Sa Re Ga Ma Pa he was freestyling alaaps at people like they was going out of style.

ARR has the most limited range out of all three, but he's a master at picking the right songs to sing. Tere Bina, Eye Hairathe, Lukka Chuppi. All require a simplistic approach that's pure. Rahman's voice is the purest out of all three, and that's why Sukhwinder and Shankar are not good fits for these types of songs.

Can't really determine who's the best singer. That's really upto the person and who they favor.

holysmoke · 03-02-2009, 06:01 PM

On a tangent, I never really appreciated Lata's voice until I heard Luka Chuppi.

Online · 03-02-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote by graphic23

His voice range is awesome and of course the ability to sing breathless for a 5 minute song is an awesome talent.

Sorry to burst your bubble

but he did not sing it non stop

It was stitched (remixed types)

Domaink · 03-02-2009, 06:30 PM

Fighting over nothing!!

03-02-2009, 01:10 AM	#1
Cricketics Cricketics Wayz Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Near the Stumpz Posts: 17,386 $ICF: 9,882,014	Indian Musician who is better than A.R Rahman Shankar Mahadevan. I really admire this man. His music has been pretty good in almost every movie he has given music to. I think he is as good as Rahman.

03-02-2009, 01:12 AM	#2
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03-02-2009, 01:25 AM	#4
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03-02-2009, 01:26 AM	#5
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03-02-2009, 01:13 AM	#3
ludhianvi The Legend Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,906 $ICF: 625,833,532	I liked the Breathless song

03-02-2009, 01:53 AM	#6
Zap_Brannigan Jumbo Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,021 $ICF: 127,998,635	Not as good. Good but not even close.

03-02-2009, 02:01 AM	#7
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03-02-2009, 04:41 AM	#9
Shehezaada Prince of Calcutta Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,451 $ICF: 27,219,568	Quote by Cricketics Shankar Mahadevan. I really admire this man. His music has been pretty good in almost every movie he has given music to. I think he is as good as Rahman. not even close. Rahman combines beats, tunes, hooks and different cultures of music like no one else in the history of music. Only person comparable to Rahman would prolly be Dre. Shankar Mahadeven is a great singer, fantastic range, good voice, good sense of beat. But as a composer? Any standouts that he's produced that have just gotten you to listen to them again and again? What's his best song? Probably Bol Na Halke Halke, which was brilliant. But how many can you quote from Rehman? Saathiya, Dil Se, Chaiyya Chaiyya, Satrangi Re, just fantastic songs. Comparing Rehman and Mahadevan is like comparing Tendulkar vs Nohit Sharma.

03-02-2009, 05:47 AM	#10
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03-02-2009, 06:05 AM	#11
rahulrulezz Gym-holic Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,180 $ICF: 928,433	Quote by Cricketics Shankar Mahadevan. I really admire this man. His music has been pretty good in almost every movie he has given music to. I think he is as good as Rahman. Shankar Mahadevan has got Himesh's Keeda !!....... he sings almost all his songs and screws them up(specially with good tunes)............example,Shankar totally scrwed up this song "Tere Naina" from CCTC ......the tune is soo good but he oldie voice totally messed it up ... he should know that he is too old for these songs..........i still dont like Jhoom Barabar title song coz of Shankars voice(it was originally supposed to be sung by Daler Mehndi)... ....Rahman voice quality and range is way way way better than S.Mahadevan but unlike Shankar, Rahman still gives chance to new comers in almost all his songs... P.S. - Shankar has promised..God knows how many singers in Saregama that he will give them a break in the industry... and only 2 singers were the lucky ones( in that too Amanat got only 1 line to sing)... ...on the other hand, Rahman recently has given break to almost 10 singers WITHOUT ANY PROMISE on National T.V. Last edited by rahulrulezz : 03-02-2009 at 06:11 AM.
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03-02-2009, 06:15 AM	#12
Gambit Aye haye tere tashan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,482 $ICF: 32,923,489	Quote by Shehezaada not even close. Rahman combines beats, tunes, hooks and different cultures of music like no one else in the history of music. Only person comparable to Rahman would prolly be Dre. Shankar Mahadeven is a great singer, fantastic range, good voice, good sense of beat. But as a composer? Any standouts that he's produced that have just gotten you to listen to them again and again? What's his best song? Probably Bol Na Halke Halke, which was brilliant. But how many can you quote from Rehman? Saathiya, Dil Se, Chaiyya Chaiyya, Satrangi Re, just fantastic songs. Comparing Rehman and Mahadevan is like comparing Tendulkar vs Nohit Sharma. Umm..how about Dil Chahta Hai, Taare Zameen Par,Don,Rock On,Lakshya? The following songs are almost good as some of ARR's best tunes - Kholo Kholo - TZP Maa - TZP Dil Chahta Hai - DCH Aaj ki raat - Don Main Aisa Kyun Hoon - Lakshya

03-02-2009, 06:15 AM	#13
kumble_rocks The Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,251 $ICF: 84,534	Shanker Mahadevan was a fa.ggt who got lucky , Still remember exchanging cigarette with this ******* along with my bro' in the corridors of SIES , Sion munbai .. At that time this guy was a nobody who lived on borrowed wealth ... now this FAC.K **** refuses to take my bro' call , so much for loyalty ...! Last edited by kumble_rocks : 03-02-2009 at 06:17 AM.

03-02-2009, 06:16 AM	#14
Gambit Aye haye tere tashan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,482 $ICF: 32,923,489	And while ARR is a superior composer to SM, SM is the much better singer out of the two. Simply no comparison there.

03-02-2009, 06:19 AM	#15
suraj Lets not forget 11/26/08 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,540 $ICF: 51,414,403	Quote by kumble_rocks Shanker Mahadevan was a fa.ggt who got lucky , Still remember exchanging s with this would be along with my bro' in the corridors of SIES , Sion munbai .. At that time this guy was a nobody who lived on borrowed wealth ... now this **** refuses to take my bro' call , so much for loyalty ...! You can replace Shankar Mahadevan for any celebrity in the world in this statement they were all exchanging notes with someone unknown @ some stage of their lives and are claimed as disloyal by thousands who have gotten close to them for even one second of their lives On another note Mahadevan as good as Rehman big no no

03-02-2009, 06:20 AM	#16
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03-02-2009, 06:24 AM	#17
suraj Lets not forget 11/26/08 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,540 $ICF: 51,414,403	Quote by Reggie AR Rahman and etc, came recently but no one can beat the great Kishore Singer vs Composer DUH!!!!!

03-02-2009, 06:35 AM	#18
kumble_rocks The Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,251 $ICF: 84,534	Quote by suraj You can replace Shankar Mahadevan for any celebrity in the world in this statement they were all exchanging notes with someone unknown @ some stage of their lives and are claimed as disloyal by thousands who have gotten close to them for even one second of their lives On another note Mahadevan as good as Rehman big no no I would agree bro ; , I guess my post may be construed as bitter , Shanker Mahadevan was a product of SIES college Mubai and he was a nobody when he was into his graduation . To be honest , I never thought this fat lard who happened to be a good friend of bro' would become something . I still have that TDK cassette with me , his singing composition.. he had that deep voice, but to be honest , in my wildest dream , would I have dared to figure that this guy would become what he has become .... and he did it ..good luck to him !

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Rajiv Site Founder ® Join Date: Apr 1973 Location: Mumbai to Vancouver Posts: 14,050 $ICF: 18,535,649,782	Quote by suraj Singer vs Composer DUH!!!!! AR Rahman is ? Mahadevan is ? KK was singer and composer my friend
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03-02-2009, 06:49 AM	#22
Rajiv Site Founder ® Join Date: Apr 1973 Location: Mumbai to Vancouver Posts: 14,050 $ICF: 18,535,649,782	Quote by kumble_rocks Shanker Mahadevan was a fa.ggt who got lucky , Still remember exchanging cigarette with this ******* along with my bro' in the corridors of SIES , Sion munbai .. At that time this guy was a nobody who lived on borrowed wealth ... now this FAC.K **** refuses to take my bro' call , so much for loyalty ...! most celebrities dont, unless u were close! If I start a list here then it would mean all those are SOB's and btw in bollywood - luck is 90% job done
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03-02-2009, 06:53 AM	#23
Gambit Aye haye tere tashan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,482 $ICF: 32,923,489	Quote by rahulrulezz you JOKING me!!! Shankar Mahadevan's BAAP cant sing Vande Matram, Yeh jo Des hai Tera, Lukka Chupiii with the way Rahman sung..All these 3 songs bring Goosegumps everytime i hear ..love these songs SM's baap might not be able to sing all that but SM is a better singer than ARR. Let's just accept that as fact and move on. Basically, ARR is a bowling all rounder and SM is a batting all rounder(where bowling = composing and batting=singing).

03-02-2009, 06:59 AM	#24
graphic23 Legend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,958 $ICF: 77,327,419	Have a lot of respect for Shankar Mahadevan. His voice range is awesome and of course the ability to sing breathless for a 5 minute song is an awesome talent. As a composer, he cannot be judged alone (because of Ehsaan and Loy) but I (quite obviously) feel that Rahman's a far superior composer to the trio inspite of Dil Chahta Hai and Taare Zameen Par. They've come out with a lot of mediocre work along with very good works with great only belonging to the aforementioned works. As a singer, I think he pips Rahman in terms of pure singing ability. The songs he's sung is another matter because he sings all sorts of masala ones (for other composers as well )along with good ones while Rahman sings for himself and sings only the top-class stuff in his compositions that suit his voice. I think Rahman, the singer, chooses very very judiciously the songs he sings and so they come out very well (eg. "Rehna Tu" from Delhi-6 and all the songs mentioned above by Rahulrulez, and ofcourse "Dil Se Re" from Dil Se).
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03-02-2009, 07:02 AM	#25
suraj Lets not forget 11/26/08 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,540 $ICF: 51,414,403	Quote by Reggie AR Rahman is ? Mahadevan is ? KK was singer and composer my friend If you are comparing KK the composer to AR the composer I have nothing to say to you On the flip side If you are comparing AR the singer to KK the singer I have nothing to say to you again Your analogies are all screwed up because you are comparing North and South in 2 different categories where one doesn't hold candle to the other in each of his domain If you are combining both and comparing the two over vastly different eras I am not nerd enuff to get into that argument to me- AR Rehamn is the best composer we have had to date Kishore da is the best singer we have had to date!!!

03-02-2009, 07:03 AM	#27
Gambit Aye haye tere tashan Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 11,482 $ICF: 32,923,489	Also, just for the record, Sukhvinder pwns Mahadevan and ARR as a singer.

03-02-2009, 07:07 AM	#28
Rajiv Site Founder ® Join Date: Apr 1973 Location: Mumbai to Vancouver Posts: 14,050 $ICF: 18,535,649,782	Quote by suraj If you are comparing KK the composer to AR the composer I have nothing to say to you On the flip side If you are comparing AR the singer to KK the singer I have nothing to say to you again Your analogies are all screwed up because you are comparing North and South in 2 different categories where one doesn't hold candle to the other in each of his domain If you are combining both and comparing the two over vastly different eras I am not nerd enuff to get into that argument to me- AR Rehamn is the best composer we have had to date Kishore da is the best singer we have had to date!!! I don't doubt your expertise and can't comment on the nerd factor! All I am saying is in IMO, no one better than KK - he was a perfect allrounder - music and composition
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03-02-2009, 07:08 AM	#29
Rajiv Site Founder ® Join Date: Apr 1973 Location: Mumbai to Vancouver Posts: 14,050 $ICF: 18,535,649,782	Quote by Gambit Also, just for the record, Sukhvinder pwns Mahadevan and ARR as a singer. hmm, perhaps a personal choice
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03-02-2009, 07:18 AM	#30
Rajiv Site Founder ® Join Date: Apr 1973 Location: Mumbai to Vancouver Posts: 14,050 $ICF: 18,535,649,782	oh btw, whateva happened to Sonu Nigam..is he still around
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03-02-2009, 08:18 AM	#31
varun The Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,229 $ICF: 46,119,579	Quote by Gambit Also, just for the record, Sukhvinder pwns Mahadevan and ARR as a singer. Funny you mentioned these 3 names. I went for a concert in LA a few years back where all 3 of them were present. Sukhvinder was the best live performer out there, and the opinion was shared amongst our pretty large group which included some hardcore ARR fans. Mahadevan was good, though I wouldn't put him above ARR as far as live performance goes. Sonu Nigam was there too and he, despite having a large contingent of shouting female fans, failed to deliver.

03-02-2009, 08:42 AM	#33
Cricketics Cricketics Wayz Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Near the Stumpz Posts: 17,386 $ICF: 9,882,014	And Kailash Kher and Sonu Nigam and K.K own all these Rahmans or any other singer. THREE CHEERS FOR THREESOME - KHER, NIGAM AND KK

03-02-2009, 03:37 PM	#34
suraj Lets not forget 11/26/08 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,540 $ICF: 51,414,403	Quote by Cricketics holy cow. it's about 1 feet of snow alredy. and still snowing. Yeh is thread mein kyun post kiya??

03-02-2009, 03:45 PM	#35
Cricketics Cricketics Wayz Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Near the Stumpz Posts: 17,386 $ICF: 9,882,014	galtise ho gaya yaar. let me post it in the other.

03-02-2009, 03:46 PM	#36
Shehezaada Prince of Calcutta Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,451 $ICF: 27,219,568	Quote by Gambit Umm..how about Dil Chahta Hai, Taare Zameen Par,Don,Rock On,Lakshya? The following songs are almost good as some of ARR's best tunes - Kholo Kholo - TZP Maa - TZP Dil Chahta Hai - DCH Aaj ki raat - Don Main Aisa Kyun Hoon - Lakshya What about them? any of the songs you've mentioned, do they mix hooks and beats as well as Rahman does? Listen to Baadal from Yuva, it's just outstanding. Especially between the first and second stanzas where he throws a keyboard, violin, and tabla at you. It's ridiculous. Maa? What's so good about that song? The lyrics maybe are touching but the song itself is nothing special. Rock on was TERRIBLE in every sense of the word. Aaj Ki Raat is good to listen to, but it doesn't touch you. Main Aisa Kyun Hoon is different and a wonderful listen, but it's not seamlessly put together like Oh Humdum Suniyo Re. Dil Chahta Hai vs Dil Se, Taare Zameen Par vs Roja, Don vs Saathiya, Rock on v s Delhi 6? Not one of those albums have nearly the variety and class to keep up with Rahman. Listen to Dil Gira Daaftan from Delhi 6...the music at the chorus is off the hook. He's a master at combining different, simple instruments together and slapping together good beats as part of the package. The other good thing is that he doesn't crowd together a piece with a LOT of instruments, he doesn't let them confuse you. Kholo Kholo is an example of Mahadevan's work that DOES do this. They each have their small part to play and it just works together. Keep in mind that Rahman is not perfect, he's come up with a lot of crap in the past couple of years. What's the difference between Tendulkar's straight drive and Nohit's straight drive? You might look at Nohit's drive and go...damn, nice shot, bastard looks in good form. But Tendulkar's? The purity, the simplicity, just shocks you. It stays with you for the longest time. Just makes you speechless. Rahman is Tendulkar, Nohit is Mahadevan. ARR is very similar to Dre in that sense. Willing to go out and just experiment with anything and everything. And he's a perfectionist. Dre's base lines in G-Funk are ridiculous, just like ARR's today. Last edited by Shehezaada : 03-02-2009 at 03:52 PM.

03-02-2009, 04:03 PM	#37
Shehezaada Prince of Calcutta Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,451 $ICF: 27,219,568	Quote by Gambit Also, just for the record, Sukhvinder pwns Mahadevan and ARR as a singer. how? Each has their positives and negatives, their own ranges, their own type of music that suits them. Sukhwinder Singh is one of my favorite singers..has a great range, very much in sur, excellent knowledge of beats and can sing in multiple languages. Also his voice has depth, can sing songs that are very high in pitch and very low as well. But imagine his voice in songs like Ishq Hua, Is Pal from Aaja Nachle. Not a good fit. Mahadevan is the more talented singer out of all three and his sense of music is outstanding as a singer as well. In Sa Re Ga Ma Pa he was freestyling alaaps at people like they was going out of style. ARR has the most limited range out of all three, but he's a master at picking the right songs to sing. Tere Bina, Eye Hairathe, Lukka Chuppi. All require a simplistic approach that's pure. Rahman's voice is the purest out of all three, and that's why Sukhwinder and Shankar are not good fits for these types of songs. Can't really determine who's the best singer. That's really upto the person and who they favor.