Spare a thought for Saha

saneindian · 02-08-2010, 06:22 PM

Poor guy, has been in the spotlight for no fault of his and today found himself batting against the best bowler in the world running in his best rhythm for a long long time.

Reminds me so much of that Manoj Tiwary odi debut vs Australia when Tiwary had no clue and was cleaned up by a Lee yorker. He has neven been the same player again.

I hope Saha doesnt meet the same fate. Will be praying for him to score some runs and show a lot of guts when its his chance with the bat (though the best thing will be for him not to get any chance and other batsmen ahead of him doing the job).

vvvslaxman · 02-08-2010, 06:23 PM

I don't think people have a go at him harshly. He can't help anything about selectorial goof up. But i like to know which genius decided he is better than Karthik or even Parthiv patel.

riya · 02-08-2010, 06:23 PM

I agreed to some extent,Steyn was in the form of his life.For the first time poor Saha must be seeing some thing like this at that pace.

Lord · 02-08-2010, 06:25 PM

Quote by vvvslaxman

I don't think people have a go at him harshly. He can't help anything about selectorial goof up. But i like to know which genius decided he is better than Karthik or even Parthiv patel.

exactly.its the selectors to blame,not Saha

Karan114 · 02-08-2010, 06:26 PM

I have nothing against Saha at all. He should not be playing here (he is nowhere near good enough to be playing Test cricket as a specialist batsman) and India are suffering as a result, but it is not his fault. And true about getting trapped in the midst of a sensational spell from a brilliant bowler.

urbestfriend · 02-08-2010, 06:29 PM

I dont think it is selectors fault. They selected him as backup keeper to Dhoni not as a specialist batsman. This is definitely team management's good up to play him as a batsman. If they wanted to give him a chance at least he should've been asked to keep instead of dhoni. If he had done good job behind the wicket, he would've had some confidence going for batting. I am sure he must not have played as pure batsman even for bengal team !! This is very poor of Dhoni and Kirsten to select him as 6th batsman!

marirs_mania · 02-08-2010, 06:32 PM

Yea, cant really fault the poor dude.

But whoever chose to pick him instead of Karthik/Parthiv needs to have his head examined. He might yet be a good batsmen, but being a total newcomer to intnl. cricket, he has almost no chance of surviving against guys like Steyn/Morkel and their reverse-swing skills.

Lord · 02-08-2010, 06:32 PM

Quote by urbestfriend

I dont think it is selectors fault. They selected him as backup keeper to Dhoni not as a specialist batsman. This is definitely team management's good up to play him as a batsman. If they wanted to give him a chance at least he should've been asked to keep instead of dhoni. If he had done good job behind the wicket, he would've had some confidence going for batting. I am sure he must not have played as pure batsman even for bengal team !! This is very poor of Dhoni and Kirsten to select him as 6th batsman!

exactly,Dhoni should have made him keep so that we could know whether he is good enuf to keep for future tests or not.or instead play a bowler

vvvslaxman · 02-08-2010, 06:33 PM

Quote by urbestfriend

! This is very poor of Dhoni and Kirsten to select him as 6th batsman!

They had no choice as they had just 1 reserved batsman who hurt himself.

urbestfriend · 02-08-2010, 06:34 PM

Quote by vvvslaxman

They had no choice as they had just 1 reserved batsman who hurt himself.

They definitely had choice of selecting him as wicket keeper!

vvvslaxman · 02-08-2010, 06:36 PM

Quote by urbestfriend

They definitely had choice of selecting him as wicket keeper!

How will that make a difference . He is still a crappy batsman. It is not like Dhoni bats poorly when he keeps wickets. He got out to Harris of all the people.

Dravid · 02-08-2010, 06:36 PM

o stop feeling sorry for him..
he just got the chance of his life thx to rohit.... make it count
guyz like badri had to wait till 29..

prove to the people u r the next best keeper, ahead of parthiv/karthik...GRAB THE OPP. BY THE HORNS :)

saneindian · 02-08-2010, 06:38 PM

Quote by urbestfriend

They definitely had choice of selecting him as wicket keeper!

And then people would have cursed Dhoni for making the youngman work hard , shattering hsi confidecne by asking him to keep wickets and running away from his own responsibility! Hindsight, my firiend is always 20/20.

The Outsider · 02-08-2010, 06:39 PM

This is how selections for the Indian team have always worked - a couple of fringe players in the 15 man squad who are not likely to play are made on zonal basis so that the selectors can keep their mai baap happy in their zones. With Vijjay and Badrinath being certainties in the starting XI, the selectors could not have included Karthik in the squad. So to keep the zonal quota they chose Saha. Of course, no one would have imagined that Saha would actually be playing in the side as a specialist batsman below the specialist keeper in the line up.

The selectors could have ideally done a similar thing by dispensing one of Mithun or Tyagi and having a specialist batsman instead when it was clear that they were not going to field 3 fast bowlers.

vvvslaxman · 02-08-2010, 06:39 PM

Quote by saneindian

And then people would have cursed Dhoni for making the youngman work hard , shattering hsi confidecne by asking him to keep wickets and running away from his own responsibility! Hindsight, my firiend is always 20/20.

Exactly merely by switching their field positions they are not going to become world class batsmen.

vvvslaxman · 02-08-2010, 06:42 PM

This is why they have to pick a balanced squad. I would rather have Ravindra Jadeja in the squad.
Our tail batting sucks. They also field badly. If they fail in the one area they are specialised at then where do we go. India needs an all rounder down the order. No question about that.

urbestfriend · 02-08-2010, 06:45 PM

Quote by saneindian

And then people would have cursed Dhoni for making the youngman work hard , shattering hsi confidecne by asking him to keep wickets and running away from his own responsibility! Hindsight, my firiend is always 20/20.

No hindisght this my friend! This is as foolish a selection as it gets! Playing a wicket keeper who is half batsman as a specialist batsman against the likes of steyn and morkel is definitely a confidence shattering and career destroying move. If they wanted him somehow, they should've given him a chance to keep wickets.
I'm sure no one would've cursed Dhoni for making youngman work hard

I dont think if a batsman is asked to bat, bowler is asked to bowl and wicket keeper is asked to keep then it is working hard

It would've boosted his confidence rather than shattering

gult · 02-08-2010, 06:56 PM

Quote by The Outsider

This is how selections for the Indian team have always worked - a couple of fringe players in the 15 man squad who are not likely to play are made on zonal basis so that the selectors can keep their mai baap happy in their zones. With Vijjay and Badrinath being certainties in the starting XI, the selectors could not have included Karthik in the squad. So to keep the zonal quota they chose Saha. Of course, no one would have imagined that Saha would actually be playing in the side as a specialist batsman below the specialist keeper in the line up.

The selectors could have ideally done a similar thing by dispensing one of Mithun or Tyagi and having a specialist batsman instead when it was clear that they were not going to field 3 fast bowlers.

Excellent post

vvvslaxman · 02-08-2010, 07:01 PM

Quote by urbestfriend

It would've boosted his confidence rather than shattering

At the end of the day best keeper kept wickets for India.

S.Bond · 02-08-2010, 09:56 PM

I think dhoni could have given him the gloves.... So he has less pressure... The litle i watched from him, h is not a bad bat... But he knos that he is not a speialist batsman...

Watson87 · 02-08-2010, 09:58 PM

Steyn was even makinig God look like a duck, so we hardly care about Saha. Against South African attack he has no chance but against BD and Srilanka he can be our Boucher.

Mr. Wicket · 02-08-2010, 10:18 PM

Quote by marirs_mania

Yea, cant really fault the poor dude.

But whoever chose to pick him instead of Karthik/Parthiv needs to have his head examined. He might yet be a good batsmen, but being a total newcomer to intnl. cricket, he has almost no chance of surviving against guys like Steyn/Morkel and their reverse-swing skills.

And yet Srikkanth and the present band of idiots attract barely a fraction of the brickbats that Vengsarkar and co. did.

One of the finest own-goals in Indian cricket, with injured players being picked based on assumptions, and unproven keepers and excess quicks being selected to fill up a squad because the selection committee is lazy and thoughtless.

Saha is just the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Freedom · 02-08-2010, 11:26 PM

why is it fair not to even expect 20-35 runs from him? He has been selected in the test team only to play and score for his country.

Well if he didnt expect this coming at him.... why would he even bother making himself available for selection?All excuses for not performing. I hope he truns it around and scores a useful 30 runs atleast in the second innings

desi cartman · 02-09-2010, 12:06 AM

For some reason MSD doesnt keep even if there is another keeper in the playing XI. He does that in T20s, ODIs and now even tests. I dont understand why he couldnt play as a specialist batsman and remain a little fresh for batting higher in the order. Also we dont want MSD to injure another finger of his or his back at this stage.

flamy · 02-09-2010, 12:10 AM

Saha sucks. End of. He is lucky to be in the 11. The fault is with the selectors for selecting him, but for sure he is not for the big stage.

Zap_Brannigan · 02-09-2010, 12:42 AM

So what some of you are saying that in addition to having half our batsmen injured, we should also make a rookie keep even when the best keeper in the country is in the squad.

Dhoni is probably a better keeper than Saha. There was no reason to further weaken the side by making him keep over Dhoni.

marirs_mania · 02-09-2010, 12:50 AM

Quote by Mr. Wicket

And yet Srikkanth and the present band of idiots attract barely a fraction of the brickbats that Vengsarkar and co. did.

One of the finest own-goals in Indian cricket, with injured players being picked based on assumptions, and unproven keepers and excess quicks being selected to fill up a squad because the selection committee is lazy and thoughtless.

Saha is just the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Steady on there. This was a monumental eff-up by the Selection committee, but no one could have predicted the last minute injury to Rohit.

Either ways, this committee has done quite well and that reflects in our performance. Beyond the normal matters of selection, what is most admirable is the way they handled the retirements of Ganguly and Kumble. Both those players were allowed to bow out with grace and went out on their own terms. That is not something you see often in the subcontinent.

The Dark Horse · 02-09-2010, 02:31 AM

Poor guy. Hopefully he'll work on his game.

urbestfriend · 02-09-2010, 05:08 AM

Quote by Zap_Brannigan

So what some of you are saying that in addition to having half our batsmen injured, we should also make a rookie keep even when the best keeper in the country is in the squad.

Dhoni is probably a better keeper than Saha. There was no reason to further weaken the side by making him keep over Dhoni.

What we are saying is that a wicket keeper shouldn't be selected as specialist batsmen against such high profile opposition. If they wanted to select him. he should've been asked to keep. Lets not make the assumption that who is the best keeper here as nobody knows what saha is capable of. He should've at least been given a chance to show what he is capable of with his primary skills. Now what he fared badly in batting, he would be sidelined forever and his international career is almost destroyed unless he scores a big one in second innings.

transparent · 02-09-2010, 05:15 AM

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Zap_Brannigan · 02-09-2010, 05:28 AM

Quote by urbestfriend

What we are saying is that a wicket keeper shouldn't be selected as specialist batsmen against such high profile opposition. If they wanted to select him. he should've been asked to keep. Lets not make the assumption that who is the best keeper here as nobody knows what saha is capable of. He should've at least been given a chance to show what he is capable of with his primary skills. Now what he fared badly in batting, he would be sidelined forever and his international career is almost destroyed unless he scores a big one in second innings.

He was chosen as a backup keeper. Selection goof up and nofit nohit sharma injury was the reason he played. So its not his fault or Dhoni to have selected him as he is just a passenger. Dhoni is clearly the better keeper compared to Karthik and P Patel, so it is a fair assumption that Dhoni is the best keeper in the country. Never said Saha is a bad keeper, he might even be better but that doesnt mean we have to drop Dhoni from keeping just so Saha can show his keeping. Ideally, Saha wouldnt have played if Dhoni was playing.

diegovegaz · 02-09-2010, 10:04 AM

feel very sorry for him
if the selection mess was not enough, look at the situation he has been asked to bat in

saneindian · 02-09-2010, 11:49 AM

Well played young man!! Lots of grit and determination there.

tex1des · 02-09-2010, 12:01 PM

very well played by Saha...he hung on for 100 balls....more than other established batsmen

vvvslaxman · 02-09-2010, 12:01 PM

yea, gritty innings. Kudos . Still not a test material though. Atleast he didn't disgrace himself.

kabira · 02-09-2010, 12:02 PM

Wicket keepers have in built grit and determination. He knows he may not play another test. But still good effort.

mhr123 · 02-09-2010, 12:13 PM

its a pure Zonal selection ... thats end of it...

achilles · 02-09-2010, 01:11 PM

Saha, Badri & Sachin were the only batsmen who showed some fight in the match, along with Vijay and MS. If the selectors and team management actually have a brain, they'll give him and Badri another chance coz Saha did waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Rohit Sharma did against Steyn & Co.

Lord · 02-09-2010, 01:14 PM

Quote by achilles

Saha, Badri & Sachin were the only batsmen who showed some fight in the match, along with Vijay and MS. If the selectors and team management actually have a brain, they'll give him and Badri another chance coz Saha did waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Rohit Sharma did against Steyn & Co.

wen did Sharma face Steyn?

Lord · 02-09-2010, 01:16 PM

poor election,but Saha didnt help his case either.he had nothing to lose n could have cemented his place as a reserve keeper woith a fine knock,but instead played meekly.i doubt he'll get another test in a while

02-08-2010, 06:22 PM	#1
saneindian Prince of Calcutta Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,693 $ICF: 32,309,156	Spare a thought for Saha Poor guy, has been in the spotlight for no fault of his and today found himself batting against the best bowler in the world running in his best rhythm for a long long time. Reminds me so much of that Manoj Tiwary odi debut vs Australia when Tiwary had no clue and was cleaned up by a Lee yorker. He has neven been the same player again. I hope Saha doesnt meet the same fate. Will be praying for him to score some runs and show a lot of guts when its his chance with the bat (though the best thing will be for him not to get any chance and other batsmen ahead of him doing the job).

02-08-2010, 06:25 PM	#4
Lord Panga na lo!!!!!!! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,585 $ICF: 373,925,889	Quote by vvvslaxman I don't think people have a go at him harshly. He can't help anything about selectorial goof up. But i like to know which genius decided he is better than Karthik or even Parthiv patel. exactly.its the selectors to blame,not Saha
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02-08-2010, 06:29 PM	#6
urbestfriend Royal challenge Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 1,845 $ICF: 66,041,558	I dont think it is selectors fault. They selected him as backup keeper to Dhoni not as a specialist batsman. This is definitely team management's good up to play him as a batsman. If they wanted to give him a chance at least he should've been asked to keep instead of dhoni. If he had done good job behind the wicket, he would've had some confidence going for batting. I am sure he must not have played as pure batsman even for bengal team !! This is very poor of Dhoni and Kirsten to select him as 6th batsman!
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02-08-2010, 06:32 PM	#8
Lord Panga na lo!!!!!!! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 8,585 $ICF: 373,925,889	Quote by urbestfriend I dont think it is selectors fault. They selected him as backup keeper to Dhoni not as a specialist batsman. This is definitely team management's good up to play him as a batsman. If they wanted to give him a chance at least he should've been asked to keep instead of dhoni. If he had done good job behind the wicket, he would've had some confidence going for batting. I am sure he must not have played as pure batsman even for bengal team !! This is very poor of Dhoni and Kirsten to select him as 6th batsman! exactly,Dhoni should have made him keep so that we could know whether he is good enuf to keep for future tests or not.or instead play a bowler
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02-08-2010, 06:34 PM	#10
urbestfriend Royal challenge Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 1,845 $ICF: 66,041,558	Quote by vvvslaxman They had no choice as they had just 1 reserved batsman who hurt himself. They definitely had choice of selecting him as wicket keeper!
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02-08-2010, 06:23 PM	#2
vvvslaxman Kumbibaagam Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16,321 $ICF: 49,693,692	I don't think people have a go at him harshly. He can't help anything about selectorial goof up. But i like to know which genius decided he is better than Karthik or even Parthiv patel.

02-08-2010, 06:23 PM	#3
riya Prince of Calcutta Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,826 $ICF: 33,147	I agreed to some extent,Steyn was in the form of his life.For the first time poor Saha must be seeing some thing like this at that pace.

02-08-2010, 06:26 PM	#5
Karan114 Jumbo Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,384 $ICF: 26,794,176	I have nothing against Saha at all. He should not be playing here (he is nowhere near good enough to be playing Test cricket as a specialist batsman) and India are suffering as a result, but it is not his fault. And true about getting trapped in the midst of a sensational spell from a brilliant bowler.

02-08-2010, 06:32 PM	#7
marirs_mania The Eccentric Genius Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: State of Flux Posts: 21,190 $ICF: 29,651,052 My Blog	Yea, cant really fault the poor dude. But whoever chose to pick him instead of Karthik/Parthiv needs to have his head examined. He might yet be a good batsmen, but being a total newcomer to intnl. cricket, he has almost no chance of surviving against guys like Steyn/Morkel and their reverse-swing skills.

02-08-2010, 06:33 PM	#9
vvvslaxman Kumbibaagam Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16,321 $ICF: 49,693,692	Quote by urbestfriend ! This is very poor of Dhoni and Kirsten to select him as 6th batsman! They had no choice as they had just 1 reserved batsman who hurt himself.

02-08-2010, 06:36 PM	#11
vvvslaxman Kumbibaagam Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16,321 $ICF: 49,693,692	Quote by urbestfriend They definitely had choice of selecting him as wicket keeper! How will that make a difference . He is still a crappy batsman. It is not like Dhoni bats poorly when he keeps wickets. He got out to Harris of all the people.

02-08-2010, 06:36 PM	#12
Dravid The Legend Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Barodaaa Posts: 6,301 $ICF: 2,008,051,650	o stop feeling sorry for him.. he just got the chance of his life thx to rohit.... make it count guyz like badri had to wait till 29.. prove to the people u r the next best keeper, ahead of parthiv/karthik...GRAB THE OPP. BY THE HORNS :)

02-08-2010, 06:38 PM	#13
saneindian Prince of Calcutta Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,693 $ICF: 32,309,156	Quote by urbestfriend They definitely had choice of selecting him as wicket keeper! And then people would have cursed Dhoni for making the youngman work hard , shattering hsi confidecne by asking him to keep wickets and running away from his own responsibility! Hindsight, my firiend is always 20/20.

02-08-2010, 06:39 PM	#14
The Outsider The Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16,402 $ICF: 436,239,071 My Blog	This is how selections for the Indian team have always worked - a couple of fringe players in the 15 man squad who are not likely to play are made on zonal basis so that the selectors can keep their mai baap happy in their zones. With Vijjay and Badrinath being certainties in the starting XI, the selectors could not have included Karthik in the squad. So to keep the zonal quota they chose Saha. Of course, no one would have imagined that Saha would actually be playing in the side as a specialist batsman below the specialist keeper in the line up. The selectors could have ideally done a similar thing by dispensing one of Mithun or Tyagi and having a specialist batsman instead when it was clear that they were not going to field 3 fast bowlers.
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02-08-2010, 06:39 PM	#15
vvvslaxman Kumbibaagam Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16,321 $ICF: 49,693,692	Quote by saneindian And then people would have cursed Dhoni for making the youngman work hard , shattering hsi confidecne by asking him to keep wickets and running away from his own responsibility! Hindsight, my firiend is always 20/20. Exactly merely by switching their field positions they are not going to become world class batsmen.

02-08-2010, 06:42 PM	#16
vvvslaxman Kumbibaagam Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16,321 $ICF: 49,693,692	This is why they have to pick a balanced squad. I would rather have Ravindra Jadeja in the squad. Our tail batting sucks. They also field badly. If they fail in the one area they are specialised at then where do we go. India needs an all rounder down the order. No question about that.

02-08-2010, 06:45 PM	#17
urbestfriend Royal challenge Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 1,845 $ICF: 66,041,558	Quote by saneindian And then people would have cursed Dhoni for making the youngman work hard , shattering hsi confidecne by asking him to keep wickets and running away from his own responsibility! Hindsight, my firiend is always 20/20. No hindisght this my friend! This is as foolish a selection as it gets! Playing a wicket keeper who is half batsman as a specialist batsman against the likes of steyn and morkel is definitely a confidence shattering and career destroying move. If they wanted him somehow, they should've given him a chance to keep wickets. I'm sure no one would've cursed Dhoni for making youngman work hard I dont think if a batsman is asked to bat, bowler is asked to bowl and wicket keeper is asked to keep then it is working hard It would've boosted his confidence rather than shattering
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02-08-2010, 06:56 PM	#18
gult Marauder from Najafgarh Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 309 $ICF: 41,425,156	Quote by The Outsider This is how selections for the Indian team have always worked - a couple of fringe players in the 15 man squad who are not likely to play are made on zonal basis so that the selectors can keep their mai baap happy in their zones. With Vijjay and Badrinath being certainties in the starting XI, the selectors could not have included Karthik in the squad. So to keep the zonal quota they chose Saha. Of course, no one would have imagined that Saha would actually be playing in the side as a specialist batsman below the specialist keeper in the line up. The selectors could have ideally done a similar thing by dispensing one of Mithun or Tyagi and having a specialist batsman instead when it was clear that they were not going to field 3 fast bowlers. Excellent post
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02-08-2010, 07:01 PM	#19
vvvslaxman Kumbibaagam Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16,321 $ICF: 49,693,692	Quote by urbestfriend It would've boosted his confidence rather than shattering At the end of the day best keeper kept wickets for India.

02-08-2010, 09:56 PM	#20
S.Bond Marauder from Najafgarh Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 702 $ICF: 14,718,737	I think dhoni could have given him the gloves.... So he has less pressure... The litle i watched from him, h is not a bad bat... But he knos that he is not a speialist batsman...

02-08-2010, 09:58 PM	#21
Watson87 Appam Sree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: India Posts: 1,268 $ICF: 46,542,928	Steyn was even makinig God look like a duck, so we hardly care about Saha. Against South African attack he has no chance but against BD and Srilanka he can be our Boucher.
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02-08-2010, 10:18 PM	#22
Mr. Wicket Look and fap, h4teler Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SNL Posts: 9,124 $ICF: 7,982,109,145	Quote by marirs_mania Yea, cant really fault the poor dude. But whoever chose to pick him instead of Karthik/Parthiv needs to have his head examined. He might yet be a good batsmen, but being a total newcomer to intnl. cricket, he has almost no chance of surviving against guys like Steyn/Morkel and their reverse-swing skills. And yet Srikkanth and the present band of idiots attract barely a fraction of the brickbats that Vengsarkar and co. did. One of the finest own-goals in Indian cricket, with injured players being picked based on assumptions, and unproven keepers and excess quicks being selected to fill up a squad because the selection committee is lazy and thoughtless. Saha is just the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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02-08-2010, 11:26 PM	#23
Freedom STFU GTFO Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 244 $ICF: 5,835,118	why is it fair not to even expect 20-35 runs from him? He has been selected in the test team only to play and score for his country. Well if he didnt expect this coming at him.... why would he even bother making himself available for selection?All excuses for not performing. I hope he truns it around and scores a useful 30 runs atleast in the second innings

02-09-2010, 12:06 AM	#24
desi cartman Stumpy ! Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,593 $ICF: 648,018,922	For some reason MSD doesnt keep even if there is another keeper in the playing XI. He does that in T20s, ODIs and now even tests. I dont understand why he couldnt play as a specialist batsman and remain a little fresh for batting higher in the order. Also we dont want MSD to injure another finger of his or his back at this stage. Last edited by desi cartman : 02-09-2010 at 12:13 AM.
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02-09-2010, 12:10 AM	#25
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02-09-2010, 12:42 AM	#26
Zap_Brannigan Jumbo Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,014 $ICF: 127,998,463	So what some of you are saying that in addition to having half our batsmen injured, we should also make a rookie keep even when the best keeper in the country is in the squad. Dhoni is probably a better keeper than Saha. There was no reason to further weaken the side by making him keep over Dhoni.

02-09-2010, 12:50 AM	#27
marirs_mania The Eccentric Genius Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: State of Flux Posts: 21,190 $ICF: 29,651,052 My Blog	Quote by Mr. Wicket And yet Srikkanth and the present band of idiots attract barely a fraction of the brickbats that Vengsarkar and co. did. One of the finest own-goals in Indian cricket, with injured players being picked based on assumptions, and unproven keepers and excess quicks being selected to fill up a squad because the selection committee is lazy and thoughtless. Saha is just the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. Steady on there. This was a monumental eff-up by the Selection committee, but no one could have predicted the last minute injury to Rohit. Either ways, this committee has done quite well and that reflects in our performance. Beyond the normal matters of selection, what is most admirable is the way they handled the retirements of Ganguly and Kumble. Both those players were allowed to bow out with grace and went out on their own terms. That is not something you see often in the subcontinent.

02-09-2010, 02:31 AM	#28
The Dark Horse Prince of Calcutta Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,703 $ICF: 65,925,228	Poor guy. Hopefully he'll work on his game.

02-09-2010, 05:08 AM	#29
urbestfriend Royal challenge Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 1,845 $ICF: 66,041,558	Quote by Zap_Brannigan So what some of you are saying that in addition to having half our batsmen injured, we should also make a rookie keep even when the best keeper in the country is in the squad. Dhoni is probably a better keeper than Saha. There was no reason to further weaken the side by making him keep over Dhoni. What we are saying is that a wicket keeper shouldn't be selected as specialist batsmen against such high profile opposition. If they wanted to select him. he should've been asked to keep. Lets not make the assumption that who is the best keeper here as nobody knows what saha is capable of. He should've at least been given a chance to show what he is capable of with his primary skills. Now what he fared badly in batting, he would be sidelined forever and his international career is almost destroyed unless he scores a big one in second innings.
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02-09-2010, 05:15 AM	#30
transparent †H€ ρh£מøm Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: 3rd Rock Posts: 3,286 $ICF: 1,235,251,072	India trails by 249

02-09-2010, 05:28 AM	#31
Zap_Brannigan Jumbo Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,014 $ICF: 127,998,463	Quote by urbestfriend What we are saying is that a wicket keeper shouldn't be selected as specialist batsmen against such high profile opposition. If they wanted to select him. he should've been asked to keep. Lets not make the assumption that who is the best keeper here as nobody knows what saha is capable of. He should've at least been given a chance to show what he is capable of with his primary skills. Now what he fared badly in batting, he would be sidelined forever and his international career is almost destroyed unless he scores a big one in second innings. He was chosen as a backup keeper. Selection goof up and nofit nohit sharma injury was the reason he played. So its not his fault or Dhoni to have selected him as he is just a passenger. Dhoni is clearly the better keeper compared to Karthik and P Patel, so it is a fair assumption that Dhoni is the best keeper in the country. Never said Saha is a bad keeper, he might even be better but that doesnt mean we have to drop Dhoni from keeping just so Saha can show his keeping. Ideally, Saha wouldnt have played if Dhoni was playing.

02-09-2010, 10:04 AM	#32
diegovegaz Mr. Cricket Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 2,019 $ICF: 2,983,587	feel very sorry for him if the selection mess was not enough, look at the situation he has been asked to bat in
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02-09-2010, 11:49 AM	#33
saneindian Prince of Calcutta Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,693 $ICF: 32,309,156	Well played young man!! Lots of grit and determination there.

02-09-2010, 12:01 PM	#34
tex1des Dada Fan Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,660 $ICF: 17,214,242	very well played by Saha...he hung on for 100 balls....more than other established batsmen
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