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Unread 04-08-2011, 02:04 AM   #1
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Afridi and Paki cricketers' real age

Well we always knew that Afridi and other Paki "youngsters" were never 16 or so when they came into the team. Now Afridi himself admits the same. Listen to the interview, especially around 5.20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...1VVdHss#at=352

Essentially Afridi is saying that this practice is quite prevalent in Pakistan and this explains why they are so successful inunderage tourneys (U 19, U 15 etc.) but never amount to much later unlike other teams' players (Southee for NZ, Ponting for Aus, Yuvi/Kaif/Kohli etc. for India, Cook for Eng and so on). Hope ICC investigates as this is essentially unfair on other teams.
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Unread 04-08-2011, 02:08 AM   #2
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Everyone knows that. I actually think that it is 4-5 years and not 2-3 years.
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Unread 04-08-2011, 02:11 AM   #3
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Quote Originally Posted by Cricket Tragic View Post


Everyone knows that. I actually think that it is 4-5 years and not 2-3 years.
No doubt about that. If they are admitting they fudge their ages by at least 2-3 years what's stopping them from claiming themselves 4-5 years younger? That's why they are amazed seeing Tendulkar play till 38. Now ICC should definitely act else underage cricket loses its integrity.

Unread 04-08-2011, 02:18 AM   #4
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The new generation cant do that unfortunately for them...

ICC has wrist and bone tests for any player competitng in an under 19 tournament. SO the new players have the correct age with an error of 10-15 days which doesnt amount to much..

Yeah Afridi and his generation really tinkered with their ages.. Younis Khan is 35(soon to be 36). Was born in 1975 not 78 what cricinfo says
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Unread 04-08-2011, 02:20 AM   #5
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Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate_Game View Post
No doubt about that. If they are admitting they fudge their ages by at least 2-3 years what's stopping them from claiming themselves 4-5 years younger? That's why they are amazed seeing Tendulkar play till 38. Now ICC should definitely act else underage cricket loses its integrity.
At the international level, it doesn't matter how old a player is. You can be 16 or 50.

Yeah, it does matter at U19 level and they now conduct bone tests to catch the cheats. You still get loads of such people though.
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Unread 04-08-2011, 02:45 AM   #6
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Quote Originally Posted by Cricket Tragic View Post
At the international level, it doesn't matter how old a player is. You can be 16 or 50.

Yeah, it does matter at U19 level and they now conduct bone tests to catch the cheats. You still get loads of such people though.
Well it does impact the record books though, especially the ones related to age, i.e., youngest player to score 50 or 100, or youngest bowler to take 5 wkts or 10 wkts. But yeah at intl level it doesn't have a major impact but it does explain why there have been so many cases of match fixing, ball tampering, pitch tampering etc. by Pak players. I mean they have been doing so from the younger days and it's so systemic that they don't even think they are doing anything wrong when they cheat at intl level. Case in point Afridi ball tampering and then saying he was only "smelling" the ball.

Unread 04-08-2011, 02:47 AM   #7
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Waqar is 4 years older than his official age. I am pretty sure Abdul Razzaq must be 50
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Unread 04-08-2011, 02:51 AM   #8
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That explains their fielding as well... if you add 3-5 years on an average to Pak team it's a freakin old team

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Now that this is clear, I am quite certain that Shoaib Akhtar is 40+.

Unread 04-08-2011, 02:58 AM   #10
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Quote Originally Posted by transparent View Post
Now that this is clear, I am quite certain that Shoaib Akhtar is 40+.
I always thought of him as a chain smoker the way he pants after bowling a 2-3 over spell. Guess now we know the real reason

Unread 04-08-2011, 03:30 AM   #11
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Large hearted with large ages.

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Unread 04-08-2011, 04:07 AM   #13
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I think the wrist and bone tests are only accurate up to the age of 18.

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I think the wrist and bone tests are only accurate up to the age of 18.
Or maybe those tests are not accurate enough for "meat eating beasts"

Unread 04-08-2011, 04:13 AM   #15
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U19 ones are always fair, and Pakistani talent has usually been most impressive and consistent out of the lot.

Who cares what's your real age is in international cricket? You should play for as long as you are good. But yeh Pakistani international players hiding their real age is silly.
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Unread 04-08-2011, 04:17 AM   #16
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Quote Originally Posted by Pak_Forever View Post
U19 ones are always fair, and Pakistani talent has usually been most impressive and consistent out of the lot.

Who cares what's your real age is in international cricket? You should play for as long as you are good. But yeh Pakistani international players hiding their real age is silly.
Sure but doesn't that answer the question why Pak doesn't get too many players in the national team from U19s? I mean if you are not really U19 there is not much scope of improvement. Look at other teams... Aussies have Marsh brothers & Khwaja coming through u19s, India has seen the likes of Yuvi, Kaif, and now Kohli coming through U19s, Eng has Cook and NZ has Southee. If Pak doesn't have U19 players coming through the system there's a problem somewhere and that could very well be the incorrect age as the players may well be in early 20s instead of being U19.

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I always doubted Aamir's age and thought that he can not be so young and be bowling the way he was. I bet he was like 23 or 24 when he entered the international arena. The ban serves his cause correctly i guess.

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No doubt they cheat in everything .

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This is what happens when you born illegally. I'm sure none of them have their birth certificate!!

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Quote Originally Posted by Dark Warrior View Post
This is what happens when you born illegally. I'm sure none of them have their birth certificate!!
illegaly ??

birth certificates in our part of the world can be made by giving few bucks .People do various things to get upper hand .
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what a retard!! khule aam cheating ko promote kar raha hai...

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..But overall, what advantage has it given to Pak for shadowing Afridi's age? he will retire eventually when his body will tire

I was 16 when I got my drivers license showing 18 and then paid some paltry fine to get age adjusted.
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I can concur. I was in Pakistan 2 years ago and met-up with Amir's coach who watched me play for a month. He said if I stay in Pakistan, he will drop my age -3 years on my id and get me into the squad. I was baffled at the way he was so calm and normal when he said it.

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Quote Originally Posted by Rajiv View Post
..But overall, what advantage has it given to Pak for shadowing Afridi's age? he will retire eventually when his body will tire

I was 16 when I got my drivers license showing 18 and then paid some paltry fine to get age adjusted.
Not in the senior squad, but they have an advantage in picking squads for U-19 tournaments.

In India also this practise is very prevalent (not in the cricket field though). In the older generations ages were routinely fudged to improve chances of school admissions, prolong retirement age etc.

Now with Hospitals themselves giving birth certificates and government jobs going down, people dont do it that much anymore.

But is there any foolproof way of determining a person's age?

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Quote Originally Posted by ganeshran View Post
Not in the senior squad, but they have an advantage in picking squads for U-19 tournaments.

In India also this practise is very prevalent (not in the cricket field though). In the older generations ages were routinely fudged to improve chances of school admissions, prolong retirement age etc.

Now with Hospitals themselves giving birth certificates and government jobs going down, people dont do it that much anymore.

But is there any foolproof way of determining a person's age?

Birth Certificate I guess... no other way really.

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I guess there are medical tests which determine age!

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Birth Certificate I guess... no other way really.
I meant a biological or a DNA test. Not sure if it can be really accurate.

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Quote Originally Posted by Aaku View Post
I guess there are medical tests which determine age!
bone test can do that ,but I don't know how accurate it is .
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"Apparently", this dude is 19. 19 years and 6 days to be precise



Link: http://www.espncricinfo.com/afghanis...er/307652.html

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Afghan team is a joke ! everyone looks 30

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Quote Originally Posted by sree_india View Post
"Apparently", this dude is 19. 19 years and 6 days to be precise



Link: http://www.espncricinfo.com/afghanis...er/307652.html

He looks like Saeed Ajmal

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Quote Originally Posted by Schickelgruber View Post
He looks like Saeed Ajmal
Saeed Ajmal looks like a guy his age is supposed to look.

This bloke was part of the Afghan "Under 19" Team. Under 19, yea right, more like Under 90.
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Yeh log har cheez mein sirf cheating karna jaante hain - age fix karte hain, match fix karte hain, spot fixing karte hain, ball tampering karte hain, drugs lete hain - aakhir aisi kya problem hai ki Pakistani cricketers se honestly game khela hi nahi jaata hai
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Quote Originally Posted by Sachin=GOD View Post
Yeh log har cheez mein sirf cheating karna jaante hain - age fix karte hain, match fix karte hain, spot fixing karte hain, ball tampering karte hain, drugs lete hain - aakhir aisi kya problem hai ki Pakistani cricketers se honestly game khela hi nahi jaata hai
Because by cheating u can win matches since the invent of tv cameras in cricket pakistan,s winning ratio has gone down has any one noticed.

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Quote Originally Posted by Sachin=GOD View Post
Yeh log har cheez mein sirf cheating karna jaante hain - age fix karte hain, match fix karte hain, spot fixing karte hain, ball tampering karte hain, drugs lete hain - aakhir aisi kya problem hai ki Pakistani cricketers se honestly game khela hi nahi jaata hai
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