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The Very Best Batsmen Under Pressure
Dhondy is offline
09-07-2007, 09:30 PM
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![]() They had cakewalked the first two Tests a zillion-nothing, and here, in the heat of the third and final Test, a few minutes into the opening day, it seemed to the worldwide audience, rubbing the sleep off their eyes over a Brett Lee, steaming in from the Cathedral end at the picturesque Adelaide Oval under slightly overcast skies, had despatched Wavell Hinds without so much as an apology. Three runs later, Dwayne Smith fell in similar fashion, edging a thunderbolt of an outswinger to Hayden at gully. In walked Brian Lara, dogged by poor form and bad umpiring decisions all series. Sarwan fell, hooking the insatiable Lee to Symonds, his Achilles heel cruelly exposed, and The dam burst after lunch. Lara launched into the spinners, ravaging them for 88 off a mere 107 deliveries. McGrath and Lee were treated with scant respect, and with stumps dawning, the genius went to his 200 by pulling the latter twice in front of square. It was a magnificent display of defiance in the face of almost insurmountable odds, against a bowling attack of the highest class on their own turf. They would later christen Adelaide Oval as Lara’s lair. He averaged 94 there. The next highest contribution to Lara’s 226 had been from Dwyane Bravo, with 34. It was the last Test match that this prince among batsmen would play in That wasn’t the only time Lara had turned the tables on the world champions from a seemingly hopeless situation. Nearly seven years ago, on a balmy day in Innings like these make you wonder- how do the true greats of the game deliver in situations that call for blood and guts? How do they stare defeat and dishonour in the face and not blink while the rest are falling around them? I decided to find out. Or rather Bheem did. I asked him to reveal the batsmen who had the highest averages, coming in at worse than 20/1, 40/2, 60/3, or 80/4. Here’s his list. Table 1. The Best Batsmen at <20/1 (minimum 1000 runs)
Reads like a who’s who of cricket, doesn’t it? Bradman… Ricky Ponting emerges as the batsman from the modern era who handles the pressure of batting at number three best, but you have to feel for poor Rahul Dravid down the table- he’s done it fully 73 times- more than anybody else in that list. While it underlines the value of Dravid to this Indian team, it also highlights the fact that on the relatively rare occasions that the Australian opening stand fails, Ricky Ponting stands like an unshakeable rock between the opposition and the middle order bats below him. Let’s move on to the glamorous number four batsmen then. Table 2. The Best Batsmen at < 40/2 (minimum 1000 runs)
Again, an all time great shows the way- you don’t become one without being resolute. Look at the runner up though. When I published my decade-leaders, there was some dissent about how Border had got in ahead of the likes of Viv. That average of 63.2, coming in at the fall of two wickets for next to nothing, tells you why. A heart forged from steel, if ever there was one. Kallis’ position at 3 is not unexpected. A special mention for Nasser Hussain, the doughty ex-captain of Much to the chagrin of Inzamam’s fans, he is roundly pipped by the rather unfairly maligned Tendulkar, who has had to deal with such situations twice as often as the Pakistani legend. Who handles pressure better? The stats tell their own story, and they rarely lie. By the same token, Brian Lara outshines his legend-in-arms, having played even more innings in strife, with a superior average to boot. Let’s look at the number fives. Table 3. The Best Batsmen at <60/3 (minimum 1000 runs)
Out of hundreds of batsmen that have steadied the rudder of their ship at three-down, only four emerge with distinction. Steve Waugh, Flower and Thorpe were all known for their nuggetyness, respected the world over for their love of battle, but the presence of Carl Hooper in that list is a real eye opener, this a man who was the epitome of wilting when the heat was on, despite his enormous, almost unbounded talent. How revealing can statistics be! What heady myths they shatter in such stark, unembellished figures! Look how Waugh and Flower are united in the pantheon of greats- two men from teams at the opposite ends of the table. Would you commit the cardinal sin of over-analysing their merits, and disenfranchising one at the expense of the other on some contrived grounds because of the relative strength or weakness of the sides they featured in? I hope not. Do take the table at its face value. Let’s examine the four-downs. Table 4. The Best Batsmen at <80/4 (minimum 500 runs)
A pattern emerges. A list populated by street fighters- Chanderpaul, Greig, Coney, Ranatunga, Botham, Border, McMillan, raging against the dying of the light. Ponting, though, outshines them all at the head of the table, in the days when he batted down the order, with an average that towers over the rest, an astonishing four tons and two half centuries scored in ten innings. Those are the figures. They show that the weakness or strength of your team is no bar to men appearing on such lists. It is fallacious to contend that if you play for a strong team such as Neither did Nasser Hussain appear in two of those tables due to a statistical aberration. Remember the side he lifted from mediocrity with his sheer cussedness? I apologize for not being able to choose between these men. I truly cannot separate the all-timers, the Bradman from the Weekes or Waugh. There is no doubt in my mind however that Ricky Ponting can stake his claim to the sobriquet of the greatest batsman of the modern era when it comes to performing under pressure. To head one list is tough, but to appear ahead of his contemporaries on two of them, one by a proverbial country mile, is a phenomenal achievement, one that doesn’t deserve to be belittled by fence sitting. Thank you all for reading, and Bheem, as ever, for your sorcery with numbers. ©2007 - Indian Cricket Fans
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Really good one. Ponting really does stand out in the last list. Hussain also comes across as a surprise and the 73 innings of Dravid really goes to show the torrid time he has been given by his team's openers.
Would be fun to see a similar list for 5 and 6 down as well, to see where some of the best counterattacking wicketkeepers and allrounders stand. There are many instances replete with games being turned on their heads by the likes of Gilchrist, Kapil, and Botham. |
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Sachin Tendulkar is the number 1 batsman of his generation.
" In our society, a man who does not cry at his mother's funeral is liable to be condemned to death" - Albert Camus in the foreward to "The Outsider" "Mother died today. Or, maybe, yesterday; I can't be sure" - The first few sentences of "The Outsider" by Camus |
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Thanks guys that was a real eye opener. I'm not a statistics buff and go with what I see but the statistics when presented this way rather than just throw some silly averages that vary in 1 or 2 points makes a lot of sense to me.
Something I want to bring to fore is the number of times Lara has played an innings of character. Although Rahul Dravid has done it 73 times Lara has in fact done it 97 times. 30 at no.3 and 67 at no.4 I think an article on the best ever opener (on similar lines i.e who carried the bat longer often and has the best average when the chips were down) and the best all rounder ever is in the order. I hope you guys can present that too. Thanks for enlightening us folks Dhondy and Bheem. |
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Great read, will post my comments later. Completely agree with your conclusion on Punter.
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Finally a good list with Dravid there.
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jeee Bheem.. how you doing all these?
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Excellent set of stats , presented in a VERY easy manner. I have never come across such diverse stat analysis before.
If i may add, since this entire article is about batsman handling pressure , I would be really interested in knowing the 1st innings- 2nd innings break up of the averages under same pre-conditions ( 20-1 , 40-2, 60-3). That will give us an idea of how well these batsman performed under even more higher levels of pressure, batting either setting up 4th innings target , or chasing a 4th innings target. I have a sneaking suspicion that Inzamam might actually pip Sachin in the 2nd innings average, while Lara increases his lead even more. And as pointed out in the article , Dravid deserves special mention for having delivered under pressure so often. Among the modern day batsman , he is as good as they come. Last edited by Ram : 09-08-2007 at 03:55 AM. |
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"Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' & all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself & others. Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence. Suspect your own motives, & all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you."
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That we can do such a variety of stat analysis , from the best bowlers , to th best batsman , to who delivered when is just tribute to the great game of cricket. Its not merely a game between bat and ball , where only the skill of the player matters. It is so much a mind sport that many times , raw stats can give us the not-so-right picture about who belongs where. In this case , an analysis of best no.3s in world cricket merely on the basis of their cumulative career averages might have thrown an entirely different looking list.
But , it is pointed analysis like these that really help us put things in perspective , differentiating the men from the boys. I really appreciate Doc's inquisitiveness in coming up with such ideas and ofcourse , BB's massive help in providing these stats to him. |
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"Beware the irrational, however seductive. Shun the 'transcendent' & all who invite you to subordinate or annihilate yourself. Distrust compassion; prefer dignity for yourself & others. Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence. Suspect your own motives, & all excuses. Do not live for others any more than you would expect others to live for you."
--C. Hitchens |
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request to the moderators. These sorts of stats are awesome and very hard to come by. However keeping them in the cricket discussion threads means they will get lost pretty soon. Couldn't there be a forum for just stats related articles? It would be easy to remember like the articles.
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chanakya, there is a stats articles link from the home page :
http://indiancricketfans.com/index.php?sid=11 |
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Sachin Tendulkar is the number 1 batsman of his generation.
" In our society, a man who does not cry at his mother's funeral is liable to be condemned to death" - Albert Camus in the foreward to "The Outsider" "Mother died today. Or, maybe, yesterday; I can't be sure" - The first few sentences of "The Outsider" by Camus |
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Nobel Prize>>> Bheem & Dhondy
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Great stats. Ponting has surpassed my expectation, but then again he's playing for the best team, is under less pressure since he knows there are way too many matchwinners in his team imo.
BB is it possible to break down lara and srt's stats a bit more, home and away, pre and post 02, even with against great bowlers >25-30? |
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Thanks
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i think these stats are a bit absurd. especially in the matter of contemporary batsmen who have made it to the list. for instance, for every inning that ponting has flourished when his side is in torrid circumstances, there has been a michael hussey or an adam gilchrist to support him. whereas, lara except for a rare occassion or two has also had the services of a morton, hooper, chanderpaul or jacobs.
it seems absurd to try and rate test batsmen. i feel in a test match, batsmen or batting line ups deserve a more collective rating and jugement as rarely ever can the maverick sole batsman impact a match so signficantly that he alone is able to surge his team to victory. its better to examine the more successful partenerships rather than individual batsmen. for instance, azhar, has often played second findle to a tendulkar or gaguly to tendulkar or dravid. yet if azhar or ganguly are dismissed cheap, they lose out the glorry of such numbers. and finally, what about the countless innings when batsmen have played merculian innings when the side is at 200-6 but still a good 200 odd away from avoiding a follow on? |
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Yes THX this list doesnt take all those scenario's into consideration .... its a very simple list based on a simple idea.
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How did you like the stats that I sent you BB??
Can you complete it from 2002 till now for those 3 batsmen and also include Ponting under such criteria? Last edited by Chandan : 09-11-2007 at 05:17 AM. |
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havent had a chance to convert them into code .... but those are waaay too complicated .... This game of cricket .. not simple is it ... ?
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I dont think the list tells us the whole story, but it does tell us a partial story on batting under pressure.
I dont think a batsman like Lara who has been playing for an eternally losing team like WI faces any pressure walking into bat, 90% of the time. This may sound ridiculous at first, but if you think about it, pressure goes up, only when the stakes go up, the expectations of the fans go up. No one expects WI to win anything. So where is the pressure ? For that matter, WI never puts itself in a situation to salvage a draw or a win in most tests. To me Tendulkar of the 90s & Lara post Amby-Walsh, knew before they walked in, that the match is a goner, esp, in foreign conditions. They just went on to play their normal cricket. However when the stakes and/or expectations were high, both of them have failed more often than not. Last edited by Bumper : 09-10-2007 at 08:51 PM. |
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To me Tendulkar of the 90s & Lara post Amby-Walsh, knew before they walked in, that the match is a goner, esp, in foreign conditions. They just went on to play their normal cricket.
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Bumper is right. Pressure is when you have your entire batting lineup upto 7 averaging more than 45 and have bowlers like McGrath, Warne, and Gillespie to bowl out the opposition. It's when you perform in those circumstances that your mettle shines through.
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Sachin Tendulkar is the number 1 batsman of his generation.
" In our society, a man who does not cry at his mother's funeral is liable to be condemned to death" - Albert Camus in the foreward to "The Outsider" "Mother died today. Or, maybe, yesterday; I can't be sure" - The first few sentences of "The Outsider" by Camus |
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Pressure is when you have your entire batting lineup upto 7 averaging more than 45 and have bowlers like McGrath, Warne, and Gillespie to bowl out the opposition. It's when you perform in those circumstances that your mettle shines through.
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Thats an oversimplistic conclusion though. Sarcastic as you may sound, there is MORE pressure on the Aussies to win just about everything (as expectations are high), than WI/BD!
Pressure is when u have something at stake. Is Ashraful under pressure to deliver against the Aussies when his team is 34/3 ? Will the morning newspapers write an obituary of him, if he fails ? Or is a Dravid or a Tendulkar under pressure when their team is 34/3 vs Pakistan, with the series on the line ? Pressure is high when the stakes are high, when expectations are high. With nothing to lose, we have seen many batsmen react a whole lot differently. Didnt you bring up Yuvraj singh the other day as a test batsman who only plays well in lost causes ? Didnt u dismiss Yuvraj's 100 in Karachi the other day, as one that came in a lost cause ? Last edited by Bumper : 09-11-2007 at 01:36 AM. |
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With nothing to lose, we have seen many batsmen react a whole lot differently. Didnt you bring up Yuvraj singh the other day as a test batsman who only plays well in lost causes ? Didnt u dismiss Yuvraj's 100 in Karachi the other day, as one that came in a lost cause ?
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Sachin Tendulkar is the number 1 batsman of his generation.
" In our society, a man who does not cry at his mother's funeral is liable to be condemned to death" - Albert Camus in the foreward to "The Outsider" "Mother died today. Or, maybe, yesterday; I can't be sure" - The first few sentences of "The Outsider" by Camus |
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Not sure why or how the difference matters. Runs made in losing or lost causes are both same to me. In reality playing for weak teams, almost always ensures that the losing cause will end up being a lost cause. I dont see any intense pressure making runs in the so called "losing causes", when there is virtually nothing at stake.
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Runs made in losing or lost causes are both same to me
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Sachin Tendulkar is the number 1 batsman of his generation.
" In our society, a man who does not cry at his mother's funeral is liable to be condemned to death" - Albert Camus in the foreward to "The Outsider" "Mother died today. Or, maybe, yesterday; I can't be sure" - The first few sentences of "The Outsider" by Camus |
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What are Gilchrist's figures at <150/5 ?
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The subcontinent is home to THREE of the most famous teams in world cricket. These teams are, India, India 'A' and the Indian u19s.
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Gilly batting at 7 ... comming in when score < 150
[Edit: These are the Stats for Gilchrist scoring < 40 when coming in at number 7] Code:
Batsman Runs Inngs NotOut Avrg SR 100s 50s Ducks AC Gilchrist 488 14 2 17.33 82.29 0 0 1 Code:
Batsman Runs Inngs NotOut Avrg SR 100s 50s Ducks AC Gilchrist 1204 21 3 43.56 -- 2 4 1 Last edited by Moderator : 09-14-2007 at 06:16 AM. |
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Old Tamil Proverb - When there is no Peacock Turkey will be hailed as most beautiful.
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^ His first hundred was also from around 110/5. There seems to be a mistake in the above stats.
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Sachin Tendulkar is the number 1 batsman of his generation.
" In our society, a man who does not cry at his mother's funeral is liable to be condemned to death" - Albert Camus in the foreward to "The Outsider" "Mother died today. Or, maybe, yesterday; I can't be sure" - The first few sentences of "The Outsider" by Camus |
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Yeah guys its a mistake ... will correct it laters ... thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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Ok the correct numbers foir Gilly batting at 7 comming in when score < 150
1204 Runs at 43.56 Avg in 21 inngs with 3 not outs. 2 x 100s and 4 x 50s and 1 x Duck |
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