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Unread 09-14-2011, 08:12 AM   #1
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Indian fast bowling prospects

After the disastrous English tour one thing is clear that we need to develope a top class fast bowling pool of atleast 8-10 bowlers.For fast bowlers player growth,developement,proper break,fitness ,core strength improvement & diet these things are very important.One heartwarming thing is that we have some talented guys but all of them are not finished product yet.Though they can be developed into fantastic bowlers in 2-3 years time.
Ishant Sharma(age-23,pace-140-152kph)),
Varun Aaron(age-21,pace-140-154kph),
Umesh Yadav(age-23,pace-140-152kph),
Sudeep Tyagi(age-24,pace-135-145kph),
Abu Nechim Ahmed(age-22,pace-135-145kph)
Rahul Shukla(age-21,pace-unknown but hyped as fast),
Pritam Das(age-22,pace-unknown but he's sharp),
Pawan Suyal(age-21,pace-unknown but he's sharp) all are very young & quite pacy.

Abhimanyu Mithun &
Jaidev Unadkat are also two very young bowlers but needs lots of improvements to be near the national team reckoning.
Deepak Chahar(age-19,swings the ball both ways but needs to improve his pace,has some batting talent),
Srikanth Wagh(age-22,pace-130-140kph & he is an allronder,can bat),
Bhuvaneswar Kumar(age-20,pace-120-130kph but he can hike his pace & can bat in the middle-order,bats at no.6 for UP) are some pace bowling all-rounders.

There are also some unknown pacers who will be in action for 2011-12 domestic season like

Abhisek Tamark(Jharkhand),
Mehjoor Ali Sofi(J & K),
Baltej Singh(Punjab).I've heard abt
Rehan Khan from Bihar who is hyped as a 150kph bowler according to our friend RightArmfast.There is
Ashok Dinda(age-27,pace-135-145kph) &
Pankaj Singh(age-26,pace-130-140kph,he is the best performing FC pacer) in domestic circuit who has represented India but I'm not too convinced with them.

So these are our fast bowling stocks and we need to develope them & select the best 5-6 among them if we aim to regain the no.1 spot in test cricket.

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Unread 09-14-2011, 08:19 AM   #2
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there is pradeep sangwan 20, bowls 125-135kmph. Has built up some muscles, last i saw of him in the Corporate Trophy, also bats well, and has changed his action.

Unread 09-14-2011, 08:20 AM   #3
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there is Yomahesh too, who is 23, bowls nice outswingers, 128-135kmph. Use to be 140-142 kmph earlier, somehow lost pace. maybe he gains it back.

there is Parappa Mordi who is 19 and bowls 140ish.

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Quote Originally Posted by rkt.india View Post
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Yup I totally missed him,a good prospect.Hoping to see him in actin in CLT20.
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Unread 09-14-2011, 08:41 AM   #6
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Another thread on Indian fast bowlers
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Unread 09-14-2011, 10:36 AM   #9
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Its good to see some fast bowling prospects in India. Its good not only for India but for world cricket, since there hasn't been too many prosects around the world. May be little stint from retired bowling greats could help them.

Unread 09-14-2011, 11:01 AM   #10
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We have so mannnny phhasst bolwers!!
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Unread 09-14-2011, 11:18 AM   #11
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Bhuvaneshwar Kumar - Like the look of him as a potential all rounder. Has a very nice bowling action and is talented with the bat.

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Quote Originally Posted by daryl1985 View Post
Bhuvaneshwar Kumar - Like the look of him as a potential all rounder. Has a very nice bowling action and is talented with the bat.
We will create history by having an all Kumar attack,Praveen,Vinay and Bhuvnasehwar ,I am sure this attack is going to fearsome ,All Kumar attac
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B.Kumar looks quite similar to P.Kumar in that he swings the ball both ways from the very little I've seen. Looks a more useful prospect than V.Kumar for sure :)

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Quote Originally Posted by Tiger80 View Post
Another thread on Indian fast bowlers
I wonder what will happen the day we actually find a truly great phhhassst bowler. The guy might become the biggest star in the history of Indian cricket.
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There is only one World Cup. The T20 tournament is officially called the World T20. It is NOT a World Cup. Please stop calling it by the wrong name. For some reason, it irritates the hell out of me.

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I wonder what will happen the day we actually find a truly great phhhassst bowler. The guy might become the biggest star in the history of Indian cricket.
huh we will make him god of gods ,there will be temple's for him
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Quote Originally Posted by sidhoni View Post
We have so mannnny phhasst bolwers!!
The joke is getting a trifle monotonous, dont you think. However, I do agree that we indeed have a lot of fast bowlers. It is another story that none of them are given break when they are at their peak !

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Quote Originally Posted by Cricket Tragic View Post
I wonder what will happen the day we actually find a truly great phhhassst bowler. The guy might become the biggest star in the history of Indian cricket.
Yeah for sure, no problem with that, when we can make tendulkar a big star, we can make a bowler too, we can't make another player like tendulkar for sure.

Unread 09-14-2011, 02:41 PM   #19
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Who said that it was a problem?
"Team spirit is an illusion only glimpsed in victory"

There is only one World Cup. The T20 tournament is officially called the World T20. It is NOT a World Cup. Please stop calling it by the wrong name. For some reason, it irritates the hell out of me.

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No bowler will ever become as big a star as Sachin. Most Indian people only like batting and not cricket as a whole. Dont you remember when you played cricket when you are a kid and you just wanted to bat and never field. Its so much more easier and fun to stand in one place and smash the ball wherever you like while others run and fetch the ball. Duh!

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Quote Originally Posted by Cricket Tragic View Post
I wonder what will happen the day we actually find a truly great phhhassst bowler. The guy might become the biggest star in the history of Indian cricket.
I think Srinath was truly a star bowler...Not great, but pretty close to that...Did he get what he deserved ?

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I don't know. If we find some guy who becomes a great phhhassst bowler (I'm talking an average of low 20s, speed of 150+ and longevity), he might become as big as any Indian cricketer.
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Unread 09-14-2011, 02:57 PM   #23
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For what its worth, I truly believe that to become a great bowler , equally important is the kind of bowling partner you have. A really good fast bowler who can bowl at 150 and terrorize the batsmen. But to do that, he needs a decent fast bowling partner who can maintain the pressure from the other side. Without a partner, there is no way you can get a world class bowler. HIstory proves it. So India needs around 2-3 good pacers.

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I don't think selectors have faith in bowlers who have pace, they seem to just look at domestic stats and pick bowlers. No wonder a bowler like Vinay Kumar gets picked ahead of Umesh Yadav.
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It's really a shame that young fast bowlers like Aaron,Umesh are being ignored & a club level trundler Vinay Kumar is playing for India
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Unread 09-14-2011, 03:54 PM   #26
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Umesh Yadav was poor even against Zimbabwe. I dont think he will be effective in international cricket.

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Quote Originally Posted by kubrickian View Post
Umesh Yadav was poor even against Zimbabwe. I dont think he will be effective in international cricket.
He was but young fast bowlers can be hit around the park.That doesn't mean he can't be better.His ability to bowl fast is important besides that do u rate Vinay Kumar higher than him???If Vinay Kumar can play for India then this guy also worth some chances.
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Quote Originally Posted by Pagalpanti View Post
I don't think selectors have faith in bowlers who have pace, they seem to just look at domestic stats and pick bowlers. No wonder a bowler like Vinay Kumar gets picked ahead of Umesh Yadav.
exactly dude. u hit the nail on the head. Thats the point, bowlers should be selected on the basis of pure pace. Swing, seam, line length u can learn, but bowling fast is a natural talent and it cant be taught.

Few icfers are better than the natiaonal selectors.

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Have seen dozens of "fast" bowling prospects over the years.. they all become spin bowling prospects after making debut... like irfan pathan and now munaf patel

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Quote Originally Posted by Rightarmfast View Post
I think Srinath was truly a star bowler...Not great, but pretty close to that...Did he get what he deserved ?

Srinath was never considered as fearsome bowler .I still remember when the hype of Shoaib Akhtar was created Children who use to bowl fast always like to be called Shoaib akhtar .Giving bowler an Indian name was/is like a abuse.

BTW have you seen Children's film Chillar party ? They have shown how children were nick named ,the one who use to bowl fast are called Akram,Akhtar
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Quote Originally Posted by Tiger80 View Post
Srinath was never considered as fearsome bowler .I still remember when the hype of Shoaib Akhtar was created Children who use to bowl fast always like to be called Shoaib akhtar .Giving bowler an Indian name was/is like a abuse.

BTW have you seen Children's film Chillar party ? They have shown how children were nick named ,the one who use to bowl fast are called Akram,Akhtar
I remember that, and some of the kids who used to bowl really slow were named as Indian "fast" bowlers like venkatesh prasad

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Some old cricket saying from my times
1. Madan Lal - Fastest off spinner- (Legend also has that he once had ball bounce twice before it reached the batsman)
2.Ghavri- Left arm Spinner (which he actually did part-time)
3.Sandhu fastest bowler with a flight
4.Kapil (post 90s) slower than Kumble
5.Chetan Sharma runs faster than he bowls ( i think Madan had the same ).

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Quote Originally Posted by singhprakash72 View Post
Some old cricket saying from my times
1. Madan Lal - Fastest off spinner- (Legend also has that he once had ball bounce twice before it reached the batsman)
2.Ghavri- Left arm Spinner (which he actually did part-time)
3.Sandhu fastest bowler with a flight
4.Kapil (post 90s) slower than Kumble
5.Chetan Sharma runs faster than he bowls ( i think Madan had the same ).
so does vinay kumar

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He was but young fast bowlers can be hit around the park.That doesn't mean he can't be better.His ability to bowl fast is important besides that do u rate Vinay Kumar higher than him???If Vinay Kumar can play for India then this guy also worth some chances.
BCCI should try to develop the bowling skills of pacers who can be 145k + and see to it that they retain the motivation and fitness to bowl fast along with being a good bowler. Even if 145k + bowlers are not bowling well at the moment, they can be trained to bowl better with proper guidance. They should be given special attention as they are a rare breed.

In modern sports it is all about scientific training after a talent is spotted. I don't think that is hapenning with bowlers in India ( the MRF pace academy has not been that good and India team bowling coaches seem to be on paid vacations ).

Inspite of the Indian team management's love affair with medium paced swing bowlers, even as a variation they should pick other types of pacers like deck hitters, genuine pace in the air bowlers and those who can seam the ball rather than swing it. Why should all the pacers be medium paced swing bowlers ? While choosing between 2 equally bad bowlers why should we not go for the deck hitting type etc. even as a variation ? Alas, only Ishant has fitted this bill for the last 4 years or so.

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Quote Originally Posted by ShebbySB View Post
After the disastrous English tour one thing is clear that we need to develope a top class fast bowling pool of atleast 8-10 bowlers.For fast bowlers player growth,developement,proper break,fitness ,core strength improvement & diet these things are very important.One heartwarming thing is that we have some talented guys but all of them are not finished product yet.Though they can be developed into fantastic bowlers in 2-3 years time.Ishant Sharma(age-23,pace-135-152kph)),Varun Aaron(age-21,pace-140-154kph),Umesh Yadav(age-23,pace-135-152kph),Sudeep Tyagi(age-24,pace-135-145kph),Abu Nechim Ahmed(age-22,pace-135-145kph),Rahul Shukla(age-21,pace-unknown but hyped as very fast),Pritam Das(age-22,pace-unknown but he's sharp),Pawan Suyal(age-21,pace-unknown but he's sharp) all are very young & quite pacy.Abhimanyu Mithun & Jaidev Unadkat are also two very young bowlers but needs lots of improvements to be near the national team reckoning.Deepak Chahar(age-19,swings the ball both ways but needs to improve his pace,has some batting talent),Srikanth Wagh(age-22,pace-130-140kph & he is an allronder,can bat),Bhuvaneswar Kumar(age-20,pace-120-130kph but he can hike his pace & can bat in the middle-order,bats at no.6 for UP) are some pace bowling all-rounders.There are also some unknown pacers who will be in action for 2011-12 domestic season like Abhisek Tamark(Jharkhand),Mehjoor Ali Sofi(J & K),Baltej Singh(Punjab).I've heard abt Rehan Khan from Bihar who is hyped as a 150kph bowler according to our friend RightArmfast.There is Ashok Dinda(age-27,pace-130-145kph) & Pankaj Singh(age-26,pace-125-140kph,he is the best performing FC pacer) in domestic circuit who has represented India but I'm not too convinced with them.So these are our fast bowling stocks and we need to develope them & select the best 5-6 among them if we aim to regain the no.1 spot in test cricket.

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Two bowlers I personally feel that have a bit of pace and seem strong also being left handers . Prasanth Parmeswaram, although age not entirely on their side and Shalabh Srivastav.I have been reading the posts from you guys for quite a while and enjoy reading them also Hi to you all.Varun Aaron to me, in terms of speed can match Shane Bond from all that I have seen, also dont count VRV Singh out, everything I know about Duncan Fletcher makes me think he will punt on the right guys also hopefully Dhoni's stubborness doesnt get in the way

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Quote Originally Posted by MCcricket View Post
Two bowlers I personally feel that have a bit of pace and seem strong also being left handers . Prasanth Parmeswaram, although age not entirely on their side and Shalabh Srivastav.I have been reading the posts from you guys for quite a while and enjoy reading them also Hi to you all.Varun Aaron to me, in terms of speed can match Shane Bond from all that I have seen, also dont count VRV Singh out, everything I know about Duncan Fletcher makes me think he will punt on the right guys also hopefully Dhoni's stubborness doesnt get in the way
yes , indeed they are on the higher side age wise, fitness wise, i really doubt they would get a thought from selectors. Everybody in india want to find Talent at a early age so that they can gain experience and be sharper in their skills.
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