Popular Post express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) Bumrah is bowling 137 k to 148 k in CT '17 .... may bowl similar speeds in tests. He is a very accurate bowler which is important in test matches. Can seam the ball both ways Can reverse the ball which is important in Asia. Can swing the ball when conditions are helpful. Is a thinking bowler. Gets good bounce Has a good bouncer Bowls a heavy ball. Has an excellent yorker which can come in very handy against tailenders even in test matches. This skill comes in handy against top batsmen too in tests when the ball starts to reverse and the bowler has pace. Has a good FC record....average of 25 and SR of 56. Has a lot of FC experience too and has played 42 matches. Did well in the last Ranji season and practiced hard in 4 day matches so that he can play tests. I saw him bowl in 4 day FC matches and he looked really good. He needs to be tried in Test matches and can replace Ishant as a " bounce bowler " Bouncy Bumrah can be a good foil to the skiddy Umesh and Bhuvi. Shami can do both. It is very unfair on a bowler to dub him as an LOI specialist without even trying him in the test format....especially as he has pace, bounce, accuracy, seam movement, reverse swing and a good FC record. The key thing I would look for is whether he can sustain pace throughout the day. The test series in Sri Lanka is the ideal place to try him in test matches before the crucial Outside-Asia-tests start. Edited December 15, 2020 by express bowling Bigg Brother, sarchasm, The Dark Horse and 8 others 11 Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Pollack said: No! No! & No! Logic ? Link to comment
kubrickian Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I think he will be in test squad for SL series. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, sarchasm said: Fully agree about Bumrah being inducted for tests. Aside from the 'feelings' and biases we have for individual bowlers, the most robust and reliable metric is their first class record. Bumrah has a better first class record than SEVERAL candidates who have debuted in test over the past decade. I believe it is only Shami who can claim to have a better record, and even there you have to weigh in the dry and unhelpful tracks Bumrah mostly bowls on. Agree.....we should look for pacers who have pace / bounce + good FC records. Because it showcases actual wicket-taking ability and international cricket suitability. Srinath, Zaheer and Shami ticked all these boxes before debut and they have been some of our best pacers in tests. Md. Siraj is another such candidate. Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Apart from the listed positives another advantage is the way he runs through teams and tail in particular.Was following the semi vs Jarkhand and his blistering spell won it in spectacular fashion. And Indian team definitely lacks that aspect . But worry is whether his body can hold . Bumrah is too important to our limited overs team .Not sure it is worth risking and increasing his workload that could cut short his career like Malinga . f.b.m 1 Link to comment
tweaker Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Bumrah should be considered for the test series against SRI Lanka. He has all the qualities required to be a successful test bowler.He can be very good against the tailenders who have been very difficult to dislodged by our bowlers. express bowling 1 Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 in place of whom? Umesh is a definite in all test matches irrespective of conditions. Dropping him to adjust Bumrah would be crime. Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, WC2011INDIA said: in place of whom? Umesh is a definite in all test matches irrespective of conditions. Dropping him to adjust Bumrah would be crime. Umesh, Shami and Bumrah if we play 3 fast bowlers. Umesh and Bumrah if Shami is not fully fit. Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 33 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: Apart from the listed positives another advantage is the way he runs through teams and tail in particular.Was following the semi vs Jarkhand and his blistering spell won it in spectacular fashion. And Indian team definitely lacks that aspect . We need such a pacer in our team when we tour abroad 33 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: But worry is whether his body can hold . Bumrah is too important to our limited overs team .Not sure it is worth risking and increasing his workload that could cut short his career like Malinga . Bumrah is as fit as any other pacer in this team with Umesh the fittest of the lot. The answer is to rest Bumrah in less important bilateral LOI series....as we have rightly done in the WI series. That would take casre of the fitness issue. We need to worry more about Umesh and Kohli's fitness.... who are being played in everything. Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Bumrah is as fit as any other pacer in this team with Umesh the fittest of the lot. The answer is to rest Bumrah in less important bilateral LOI series....as we have rightly done in the WI series. That would take casre of the fitness issue. We need to worry more about Umesh and Kohli's fitness.... who are being played in everything. It's not about his general fitness am worried about. But his action taking a lot of toll on his body like Malinga's has. But yes would be ideal if we could find a solution were we can manage his workload sensibly . Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Umesh, Shami and Bumrah if we play 3 fast bowlers. Umesh and Bumrah if Shami is not fully fit. Think Ishant will be first choice in Srilanka because of his record last time we toured . Link to comment
Mosher Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Bumrah wants to play tests and is skilled enough to do well in tests. But don't think the selectors/team management want to add to that workload as they think he is more of valuable in LOI's and want to preserve him. Cricketics and speedheat 2 Link to comment
zen Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Cricketers with potential should be rotated in all formats as it allows them to become even better cricketers through learning constantly express bowling, Cricketics, Tendu_10 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 minute ago, BeautifulGame said: It's not about his general fitness am worried about. But his action taking a lot of toll on his body like Malinga's has. That issue is difficult to judge. Pacers with classical actions like Patttinson and Starc keep breaking down. As Akram was explaining last year.... Bumrah is used to bowling with this action from an early age and his body is used to it. the main thing is tho manage the workload of all pacers by following a rotation policy. Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, Mosher said: Bumrah wants to play tests and is skilled enough to do well in tests. But don't think the selectors/team management want to add to that workload as they think he is more of valuable in LOI's and want to preserve him. Bro, you will be happy to know that there was an article on espncricinfo which stated that Bumrah was rested for the WI LOI series because the team management wanted to introduce him in test matches in the SL series. I hope that info is correct. OpeningBatsman and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Picking wickets in death overs of a T20/ODI match != planning and plotting wickets over multiple sessions in a test match. Restrict Bumrah and the likes to LOIs. We have better pacers for tests. Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 27 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: Think Ishant will be first choice in Srilanka because of his record last time we toured . There is a need to look ahead and create pace bowling backups for the 4 abroad test series in the next 18 months. We have 4 test fast bowlers now...Umesh, Shami, Bhuvi and Ishant. We have to play atleast 3 specialist fast bowlers in outside-Asia tests. It is possible that 2 of the 4 pacers are injured.....pacers are very susceptible to injuries and Shami is anyway semifit now. That means we need to develop another pacer for test matches. Link to comment
express bowling Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said: Picking wickets in death overs of a T20/ODI match != planning and plotting wickets over multiple sessions in a test match. Restrict Bumrah and the likes to LOIs. We have better pacers for tests. You would not say it if you saw Bumrah bowl in 4 day matches in FC. He is much better at planning than Ishant or even Umesh. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said: Picking wickets in death overs of a T20/ODI match != planning and plotting wickets over multiple sessions in a test match. Restrict Bumrah and the likes to LOIs. We have better pacers for tests. Bumrah had a 5fer last time he toured with India A in Australia in a 3-day game. Link to comment
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