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Lets get it straight - Ball tampering is NOT a big crime


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Absolutely gutted to see the way Smith was crying at presser today or the way he was taken at the airport by dozens of police as if he is a convicted murderer. There are many players who has done ball tampering in the past but no one was treated in this fashion. Yes ball tampering is a cheating but its not as serious offense as match fixing/spot fixing. Giving a top class player like Smith 1 year ban for this is way too harsh.

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Big deal (and different) because:

 

Clear evidence of pre planning and mass coordianation of cheating

 

Asking a junior player to do the dirty work

 

Evidence of systematic effort to bury the evidence 

 

First time an Australian caught doing it 

 

Australia give off a holier than though attitude and have accused other teams of ball tampering or chucking 


Introduction of a foreign object

 

Completely brings the game into disrepute and undermines confidence of global viewership 

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1 hour ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Absolutely gutted to see the way Smith was crying at presser today or the way he was taken at the airport by dozens of police as if he is a convicted murderer. There are many players who has done ball tampering in the past but no one was treated in this fashion. Yes ball tampering is a cheating but its not as serious offense as match fixing/spot fixing. Giving a top class player like Smith 1 year ban for this is way too harsh.

A length of ban should be decided how good a batsman you are?

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2 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Its a max 1 test ban offense and ICC was right in giving that. Infact its an offense many think should be made legal. CA over doing things.

For the umpteenth time its not that he tampered with the ball. Its the fact that he tried to break the rules of the game in a pre-meditated manner using an inexperienced player who he knew wouldn't say no, just so that he can get an edge in the game. 

 

Imagine you have a South African captain playing a test series where they're tied 1-1 and in the third test against India where India is chasing 250 to win at 101-2. When is he going to get an opportunity like that to win a series in India? Someone with a lower bar for ethics like Smith is going to roll the dice in his favor and cheat because at worst the ban is a test of two if he gets caught.

 

He can lose the series and be the captain who couldnt do it OR cheat like Smith did knowing that ICC is only going to slap him on the wrist.

 

Do you really want to watch a series like that? Nah, the game is way way bigger than Smith and his after the fact, crocodile tears.

 

 

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There's a difference between tampering and predetermined ball-tampering.

If it was spontaneous and happened in the heat of moment then it's acceptable to an extent. Pre-determined Tampering is as bad as match fixing. 

 

The reactions from Aussies is over the board but you cannot place this crime along with other ball-tampering issues.

 

Also the official punishment needs to be changed. 1 match ban is not enough. Needs to be Atleast 2 or 3. 

Get rid of match bans for slow overrate. Cannot have same punishments for slow-overrate and ball-tampering.

 

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I would gladly like to differ here match fixing in itself screams MATCH FIXING which means you are fixing the outcome of a match or the performance of a player/players which is/Will influence the outcome of the match ,its not a deliberate chance taken ,its a kind of crime which changes the result of a match, a tournament,a series etc for sure whereas ball Tampering ,another kind of offence, is a gamble taken to somehow  tilt the balance of match in your favour but is by no means will surely effect the outcome, so one cannot see ball tampering and match fixing with the same eye..

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2 hours ago, urnotserious said:

For the umpteenth time its not that he tampered with the ball. Its the fact that he tried to break the rules of the game in a pre-meditated manner using an inexperienced player who he knew wouldn't say no, just so that he can get an edge in the game. 

 

 

Ball tampering is always premeditated. When South Africans used zippers to tamper the ball was that not premeditated. he only mistake was that he accepted it in the PC unlike South Africans. If he had denied it, nothing of this sort would have happened.

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6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

I am one of those advocating ball tampering to be made  legal.. This is so unnecessary and OTT reaction to an offense that it done on a daily basis by everyone , just because they were caught and all are gasping. Get a reality check and live with it.

So what are you thinking??? What is legal according to you?

 

Get a knife and start slicing it into a different shape so when it pitches it wobbles in a surprising direction? 

 

How about we inject it with liquid so it swings more? 

 

Rules are there for a reason. Follow them and there will be no need for these "tears". 

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3 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Ball tampering is always premeditated. When South Africans used zippers to tamper the ball was that not premeditated. he only mistake was that he accepted it in the PC unlike South Africans. If he had denied it, nothing of this sort would have happened.

Not only that, he used a foreign object to rough the ball up. Where do you draw the line then? Knife to slice it? Heavy construction tape so that it becomes heavier? Lead to make it weigh differently? 

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2/3 matches or max 5 games is more than enough for this pre-meditated ball tampering. Its no where similar to fixing n stuff. 

 

Right now the chaos is just pandering/appeasing to the mob who wants to see some blood. The media/social media and some players have been instigating crowd and using their anger to ask for blood. That is just ridiculous. Anybody defending the behaviour of media and instigators are the worst hypocrites as if they have never lied in their life. This mob lynching that is going is actually threat to these players and their family's lives. Hope they keep a watch on them for safety.

Only if such outrage was shown towards actual criminals and corrupted people who have done actual crimes, lot of things would have been better in this world. Right now these guys are just soft target and are being bullied by the mob. Ball-tampering has its own penalties and should have been handled appropriately instead of behaving like they have caught some Osama bin laden reincarnate. Its shameful that people are advocating how this whole circus is being carried out.

What next? Are we going to see public hanging of batsmen who knicks and does not walk or someone claiming a bumped catch? Jeez, what is wrong with people. 

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