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Just how were Australia so good?


lamellavig

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FFS just look at their best lineup...Hayden,Langer,Ponting,Mark Waugh,Damien Martyn, Steve Waugh, Gilchrist, McGrath, Warne...

 

How were they so ahead of the game? Bear in mind this was in 2000, and even in 2018 India can't match 10% of this lineup. How were Australia so smart? How did they across all these players? To top it all of, they had a cerebral leader in Steve Waugh.

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State and Country cricket academy's under the head ship of Rod Marsh had a lot to do with it .

They blooded most of those guys young in State cricket from the academies which were a new thing to cricket at that time. 

During the off Australian season they sent them off to England, Scotland and Ireland  to learn how to be cricket professionals and men but under their academies guidance. This was fairly new then 

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51 minutes ago, lamellavig said:

FFS just look at their best lineup...Hayden,Langer,Ponting,Mark Waugh,Damien Martyn, Steve Waugh, Gilchrist, McGrath, Warne...

 

How were they so ahead of the game? Bear in mind this was in 2000, and even in 2018 India can't match 10% of this lineup. How were Australia so smart? How did they across all these players? To top it all of, they had a cerebral leader in Steve Waugh.

Not to forget likes of gillispie, Lee, slater, symonds, damien Fleming, bichel, kasprovicz, McGill,are severely underrated 

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Culture : An appropriation of everything from team selection, performance accountability and the insatiable hunger to win. 

 

 

Steve Waugh before the 4th test in 1999 West Indies tour drops Shane Warne for the 4th test. He tells Warne you're not playing much to the latter shock. 

 

I'm the captain. You're not playing. And he goes on to win the 4th test and draws the series 2-2.

 

The ability to do the best for the team irrespective of any repercussions and backlashes that you may have to face. 

 

India has still a very very long way to go to emulate this.

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  • Fitness levels (here when the culture has started many experts are crying foul over yo-yo)
  • their domestic cricket was really really strong. Once i think imran khan said he played in their domestic n it felt like playing international cricket. They have 6 teams so the competition was high. Look at our duleep trophy ....trundler bowling. Challenger has been scrapped. 
  • They choose match winners and backed them . And all were at their peeek 
  • They didnt have conservative attitude like us....the safe approach. 
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Besides their excellent infra & grassroots system as well as administration, there is some element of chance/luck when u got so many great cricketers playing at the same time. McGrath & Warne both are just so far above the norm. One holds the highest wickets for quicks until Anderson moves ahead this game, the other 2nd highest for spinners. 

 

Not dismissing the greatness of Ponting, Gilly & others, but the two bowlers make it to some all time best XI more often than others.

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They have a better sporting culture for cricket than other cricket playing nations.

Also the planets have to be alingned very favorably for that to happen.

WI who are the biggest threat care less and less about cricket. Their tall young players would prefer BBall over cricket anyday.

England is a football crazy nation and just dont get the right talent for cricket.

Australia has lot of good athletes that they can compete in cricket. Australians are good all around but not really dominant in very competitive sports like football but still they are very impressive.

With advent of IPL India has become impressive too.

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19 minutes ago, Clarke said:

Besides their excellent infra & grassroots system as well as administration, there is some element of chance/luck when u got so many great cricketers playing at the same time. McGrath & Warne both are just so far above the norm. One holds the highest wickets for quicks until Anderson moves ahead this game, the other 2nd highest for spinners. 

 

Not dismissing the greatness of Ponting, Gilly & others, but the two bowlers make it to some all time best XI more often than others.

McGrath yes but Warne was a rouge cricketer.

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Their core players had guts and were street fighters.They had abilty to fight and over time developed confidence and aura which was passed on to incoming players.

 

Even mediocre players like Bichel performed above their abilities.Other than Kohli none of the players have the fighting spirit in this Indian team.Aussies had Waugh, Warne , Punter and Mcgrath.Same thing with 1980s WI team, Lloyd ,Gomes along with their fast bowlers had that fighting spirit.

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These kind of cricketers are not produced in domestic level cricket or by any coaches. That was pure luck. Having ATG players at the same time, and almost all of them in the same age bracket to play together as a team for a long time. Also, the reason for their never die attitude was competition. There were more than one talented batsmen waiting to replace players in the team. So, obviously all of them tried performing all the time. 

It isnt such a difficult job for a new player to fit in, when all the other team members are performing well and he doesnt have the pressure to carry the weight of the team.

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