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12 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Ram Leela is like Child Porn.

 

https://www.opindia.com/2019/10/prakash-raj-ram-leela-hindus-minorities-yogi-adityanath-fear-child-porn/

 

Ram Leela is like child porn, it creates fear among minorities and dangerous for society: Prakash Raj in viral 2018 clip

Wtf

 

prakash fan himself looks like a paedophile

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Secular casteism. What intellectual capacity do this miya biwi have to tweet such disruptive statements. This is Hindu phobia from these closet Islamists. Call them out on their Hinduphobia, they hide behind atheists and humanists mask like darul mala here. First of all , untouchability is illegal, also artisans were not untouchables even in medieval India. Vishwakarma is revered in puranas. These are champagne seculars high on agenda to insult Hinduism. Do these let jewellers who make their precious ornaments come and touch it when they are wearing? Ignorant intellects.

 

 

 

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Tamil Nadu: UPA MP says Hindu temples are places with ‘dirty idols’, complaint lodged

Following the anti-Hindu statements, Hindu groups such as Hindu Munnani have lodged complaints in different police stations in Ariyalur district demanding the registration of an FIR against Viduthalai Chiruthaigal Katchi (VCK) leader Thol Thirumavalavan.

 

@velu what do Tamils see in this person? 

 

I think 'asingamana' means ugly in this context? 

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18 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Tamil Nadu: UPA MP says Hindu temples are places with ‘dirty idols’, complaint lodged

Following the anti-Hindu statements, Hindu groups such as Hindu Munnani have lodged complaints in different police stations in Ariyalur district demanding the registration of an FIR against Viduthalai Chiruthaigal Katchi (VCK) leader Thol Thirumavalavan.

 

@velu what do Tamils see in this person? 

 

I think 'asingamana' means ugly in this context? 


he is an asshole .. he apologised 

our secular politicians are total dumb .. they are actually insulting Muslims and Christmas by saying these things 

 

 

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Why are people taking Ladeeda so seriously? Since when is she the authority on anything?

These kind of retarded comments take away from the actual issues Muslims face. She is the girl who cries wolf. She has to be a plant. :mad:

 

Back in the day, when The Ramayan was telecast it was viewed (and enjoyed, or so I am told) by everyone. Hindu. Muslim. Dhoni fans. Everyone. A major reason was that there simply weren't any other channels back then. 

 

Also, who even watches DD anymore? Is this even an issue?

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10 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said:

Is there an online DD channel or something that this can be stramed on?

 

 

I mean im not a big fan of the slow mo arrow battles but oh well.

You can find the episodes on YouTube. And change playspeed x2. Best way

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20 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Why are people taking Ladeeda so seriously? Since when is she the authority on anything?

These kind of retarded comments take away from the actual issues Muslims face. She is the girl who cries wolf. She has to be a plant. :mad:
 

Barkha called her Shero. Al-jazeera invites her in all panel discussion. She is Sheela Rashid 2.0 . Why shouldn’t she be taken seriously? Are you calling Barkha a top spinner or a planter?

20 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

 

Back in the day, when The Ramayan was telecast it was viewed (and enjoyed, or so I am told) by everyone. Hindu. Muslim. Dhoni fans. Everyone. A major reason was that there simply weren't any other channels back then. 


 

Don’t know about Dhoni fans , probably were still in wombs. 

20 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Also, who even watches DD anymore? Is this even an issue?

People with antennas and no cable

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[mention=890]coffee_rules[/mention] Okay boss. You take her (and Al Jazeera) seriously then.
 
As for Barkha, she is a sell out. Forget her political bias(es). I'm talking about the Nira Radia tapes.
What about her?



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20 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Why are people taking Ladeeda so seriously? Since when is she the authority on anything?

These kind of retarded comments take away from the actual issues Muslims face. She is the girl who cries wolf. She has to be a plant. :mad:

 

Back in the day, when The Ramayan was telecast it was viewed (and enjoyed, or so I am told) by everyone. Hindu. Muslim. Dhoni fans. Everyone. A major reason was that there simply weren't any other channels back then. 

 

Also, who even watches DD anymore? Is this even an issue?

 

Mariyam, i was talking about this with some family today.

 

My uncle told me that during the 90s, the broadcasting of ramayan/mahabharat on DD had to be "balanced" by a broadcast of shows like shehenshah akbar and dastaan-e-hatimtai (i had never heard of these, by the way). this way, serials of hindu epics wouldn't be considered "communal" and muslims would feel included in india.

 

i have no idea if this is true, but this is what i have heard.

 

My impression is - in "secular" india, there used to be equal acknowledgement of hindu and muslim, at least in the public sphere. these days, there's zero acknowledgement of muslim legacy, and its all hindu-hindu-hindu...which isn't a bad thing, but this is what irritates the secularists who believe in the india of "amar akbar anthony".

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3 hours ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

 

Mariyam, i was talking about this with some family today.

 

My uncle told me that during the 90s, the broadcasting of ramayan/mahabharat on DD had to be "balanced" by a broadcast of shows like shehenshah akbar and dastaan-e-hatimtai (i had never heard of these, by the way). this way, serials of hindu epics wouldn't be considered "communal" and muslims would feel included in india.

 

i have no idea if this is true, but this is what i have heard.

 

My impression is - in "secular" india, there used to be equal acknowledgement of hindu and muslim, at least in the public sphere. these days, there's zero acknowledgement of muslim legacy, and its all hindu-hindu-hindu...which isn't a bad thing, but this is what irritates the secularists who believe in the india of "amar akbar anthony".

I do remember some serial called Alif-laila .. 

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12 minutes ago, diga said:

I do remember some serial called Alif-laila .. 

An anecdote of those times , I didn’t know there was an opposition against telecasting it. Sagarika ‘s dad had a hand in its opposition. It is akin to what some liberals say about Ramleela or Bharatmata ki Jai are intimidating minorities and hurting the secular fabric of India

 

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3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

An anecdote of those times , I didn’t know there was an opposition against telecasting it. Sagarika ‘s dad had a hand in its opposition. It is akin to what some liberals say about Ramleela or Bharatmata ki Jai are intimidating minorities and hurting the secular fabric of India

 

 

These voices used to be much louder back in the day. the government would have to listen to them. which is why we would have a 'balancing' between hindu and muslim representation in entertainment, just to keep everyone happy.

 

i dont think this is happening in today's india. the BJP doesn't give a ****, and those voices have lost their power.

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14 hours ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

 

These voices used to be much louder back in the day. the government would have to listen to them. which is why we would have a 'balancing' between hindu and muslim representation in entertainment, just to keep everyone happy.

 

i dont think this is happening in today's india. the BJP doesn't give a ****, and those voices have lost their power.

We are only hearing such stories now, and imagine how many such Hinduphobia episodes which is not in public domain? 

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2 hours ago, someone said:

We are only hearing such stories now, and imagine how many such Hinduphobia episodes which is not in public domain? 

 

I have thought about this a little bit more.

 

I'm not sure if it's hinduphobia as much as it is pandering to muslims.

 

to keep muslims happy as a voting bloc, secularists would go to any extent to justify muslim extremism. for example: india was one of the first countries to ban salman rushdie's satanic verses. this is while most muslims in india are semi-literate, and incapable of reading 3 sentences, let alone an entire book.

 

its almost as if secularists themselves, were deeply distrustful of muslims, but chose to indulge them rather than ignore them, as the BJP has. remember, muslims don't like 'secularists' any more than they like hindus.

 

 

by the way, the only reason ramayan and mahabharat were broadcast in the first place is because the shah bano judgement annoyed most of the country. congress had to 'balance' both sides, so they chose to broadcast hindu epics and eventually, opened the gates of the babri masjid.

 

indian "secularism" in the 80s was all about pandering to extremists, whether it was muslim, hindu or sikh (akali dal vs bhindranwale). 

 

this must have been the worst decade in independent india's hisotry.

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2 hours ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

 

I have thought about this a little bit more.

 

I'm not sure if it's hinduphobia as much as it is pandering to muslims.

 

to keep muslims happy as a voting bloc, secularists would go to any extent to justify muslim extremism. 

Of course. Ideally, Muslims can also provide their religious history, stories programmes. It is a level playing field and I also would be interested in learning about other religions through creative art channels.

 

But thats a possibly taboo subject and thus, instead, confused people want to ban all religious episodes...

 

 

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1 hour ago, someone said:

Of course. Ideally, Muslims can also provide their religious history, stories programmes. It is a level playing field and I also would be interested in learning about other religions through creative art channels.

 

But thats a possibly taboo subject and thus, instead, confused people want to ban all religious episodes...

 

 

I would love that mainstreaming as well, should apply to multiple fields.

 

I've been wanting to ask HR in my company as to why can't Ramzan or another Eid like festival be celebrated the same way Diwali & Christmas are, with decorations, luncheons & all :p:

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1 hour ago, Clarke said:

I would love that mainstreaming as well, should apply to multiple fields.

 

I've been wanting to ask HR in my company as to why can't Ramzan or another Eid like festival be celebrated the same way Diwali & Christmas are, with decorations, luncheons & all :p:

 

3 hours ago, someone said:

Of course. Ideally, Muslims can also provide their religious history, stories programmes. It is a level playing field and I also would be interested in learning about other religions through creative art channels.

 

But thats a possibly taboo subject and thus, instead, confused people want to ban all religious episodes...

 

 

 

You think so?

 

I think islam is foreign to india. stories relating to muslims don't, or at least, shouldn't have any place in mainstream indian media. its the only way to achieve unity. You have to motivate muslims to act hindu.

 

 

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My own theory, the deep western think-tanks sees India as another Africa. So whatever we had, is old, backward and terrible. Thus, our ancient & vedic culture, religion, rituals, lifestyle is seen with contempt and overall as Hinduphobia. They think our states are different and under an artificial unity, and thus breaking India forces. While, the 2 Abrahamic religions are the positive, saviors, and thus, converting many people.

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3 hours ago, someone said:

My own theory, the deep western think-tanks sees India as another Africa. So whatever we had, is old, backward and terrible. Thus, our ancient & vedic culture, religion, rituals, lifestyle is seen with contempt and overall as Hinduphobia. They think our states are different and under an artificial unity, and thus breaking India forces. While, the 2 Abrahamic religions are the positive, saviors, and thus, converting many people.

Bro, what is this "deep western think-tank"? 

Why are you going again for a conspiracy theory?

This so called "deep western think-tank" (if present) is not even able to hold it's own population to follow it's religion and culture. 

 

As far as I have studied the western society, then new generation is most impressed by the "modern science".

 

And instead of any "religious morality", they follow the "morals" which are based upon "human intellect", which are well thought out and which are well discussed out. 

 

I wonder how could you blame present day western society for being too narrow minded to accept Hindu rituals and traditions? 

 

Acutually, the present day western society is many times more open-minded and accepting as compared to the present day Hindutva society of India. The reality is this that Hindutva society is so much narrow minded, that it is not ready to accept even Christians or Secularists or even Sikhs. And Jains and Buddhists are also afraid of present day Hindutva. 

 

Western society is unable to understand what this so called Vedic culture is? All they could imagine is extreme hatred in Indian society on the bases of caste system. All they see that women are oppressed in the joint family system and still arranged marriages. All they see is extreme hatred based politics from the Hindutva right wing. This is the picture of Vedic society that you have delivered to them. How could then they ever respect such Hidutva based society? 

 

(Moderator's note - Instead of censoring and removing this poster's trash, I have decided to identify it as nonsense.)

 

Modern Western People eradicated the slavery. They have eradicated the difference of white and black. They gave women equal rights for the first time. How could they ever respect any so called Vedic Culture where the cruel caste system flourished? 

 

And there is no thing like unity among Abrahamic Based Religion. The present day western society hates all the 3 Abrahamic based religions as well as Vedic Religion, which modern science and modern morality don't need any guidance from any old religion.

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1 hour ago, Alam_dar said:

The reality is this that Hindutva society is so much narrow minded, that it is not ready to accept even Christians or Secularists or even Sikhs. And Jains and Buddhists are also afraid of present day Hindutva. 

 

Says who?  Based on what? 

 

Let this be a crystal clear warning to you - if you insist on littering this forum with blatant lies and propaganda, you will face consequences.

 

This forum has been extremely tolerant of your nonsense - but you are on thin ice.  Do not mistake tolerance and laissez faire attitudes for carelessness.    

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27 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Says who?  Based on what? 

 

Let this be a crystal clear warning to you - if you insist on littering this forum with blatant lies and propaganda, you will face consequences.

 

This forum has been extremely tolerant of your nonsense - but you are on thin ice.  Do not mistake tolerance and laissez faire attitudes for carelessness.    

He believes in Goebbels law of logical fallacy. Isko Woh @Jimmy Cliffwala response  banta hain, Salim.

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