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21 hours ago, Gollum said:

This fake secular state has destroyed dharmics, Hindus in particular. 

Do you have an issue with a government like the BJP using temple funds?

 

I can understand why this would be an issue if there was a congress government in power, or like in kerala - a communist government - which uses temple money to build churches and mosques.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

Do you have an issue with a government like the BJP using temple funds?

 

I can understand why this would be an issue if there was a congress government in power, or like in kerala - a communist government - which uses temple money to build churches and mosques.

Of course I have a big issue, BJP is no saint party, has enough crooks to swindle the money. Basic question is if they can't touch church property (largest owner of land in India) or zakat of Muslims why do they want to control temples? 

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When fruit vendors put saffron flags, it's communal Hindu woman was threatened for watching TV during Ramzan in Nazira. What's it? Secularism? Ironically, people have problem with TV's sound during Ramzan. But if anyone talks about Azaan's sound, then secularism comes in danger

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Assam: Muslim neighbours abuse, threaten to kill a Hindu woman in Nazira district for watching TV during Ramzan

 

The victim had approached the Nazira police to lodge an FIR, but the police had allegedly discouraged her from lodging a complaint, instead asked her to agree for an out-of-court settlement.

 

In a shocking incident, two locals, Samiruddin Ali and Mobidul Rahman attacked a poor Hindu woman in Assam’s Nazira district, for ‘watching TV in her house during the month of Ramzan’. The Muslim neighbours prohibited the woman from watching TV, citing Ramzan. After this, they allegedly gathered in large numbers with sharp weapons and started assaulting the woman. They attempted to murder her by strangulating her.

The incident has been reported from Nazira, a small town in Sivsagar district, about 310 kilometres from the state capital, Dispur. 

Hindu tea stall owner assaulted by Muslim neighbours in Assam’s Nazira district

In what transpired on May 1, Jahnobi Gogoi, a tea shop owner, was watching TV in her house after she returned from work. Suddenly, Samiruddin Ali and Mobidul Rahman began to bang her door. When she opened the door, the duo barged and started abusing her for turning on her television which they claimed was ‘disturbing’ them as they proceeded to offer Namaz during the month of Ramzan.

Defaming her by calling her a “whore” and “prostitute”, the duo also insulted her for being a Hindu. The two men warned the victim of dire consequences if she did not abide by the Islamic diktats rolled out by the local Muslims during the month of Ramzan. The situation became worse when the verbal fight took the shape of an assault with one of the accused trying to strangulate her. Other Muslims of the area soon gathered with sharp weapons and started threatening the victim’s family that they would burn Jahnobi alive and dispose of her dead body on the railway tracks if she did not follow the diktat. 

Bajrang Dal assists the victim’s family

OpIndia got in touch with the district secretary of the Bajrang Dal, Bijoy Das, who along with other activists reached Jahnobi’s house after getting the news fo the incident and offered assistance to the family. He had also helped the victim to lodge an FIR against the perpetrators, for which the police were earlier reluctant. He alleged that the police have attempted to lighten the case by imposing lenient IPC sections on the accused.

It is pertinent to note here that after the radicals left, Jahnobi had approached the police to lodge an FIR, but the police had discouraged her from lodging a complaint, instead asked her to agree for an out-of-court settlement.

Police reluctant

The police claimed that there were discrepancies in the details mentioned in the victim’s application and what she communicated to the police verbally. Here the Bajrang Dal District Secretary Bijoy Das intervened and submitted video footage and other evidence to the police. The police at first advised Das to delete the videos as they said that in case the videos go viral on social media it would lead to the fear of spreading communal tension in the area.

However, after much persuasion, the police did lodge an FIR against the culprits, albeit under diluted provisions of Indian Penal Code section 448, 354(A), 325 and 294.

Local organisations seek justice for the victim

After the news gained traction, a local human rights body appealed to Assam DGP and National Commission for Women to look into the matter and apply the proper IPC sections related to attempt to murder, hate speech, molestation in the FIR.

When OpIndia got in touch with the Nazira police, they confirmed that a case has been registered and appropriate action is being taken against the accused.

This is however, not the first time Jahnobi’s family has been targetted. It is being said that Jahnobi’s family has continuously been in the radar of the local Muslims in the area. Actually Jahnobi is a Hindu who married a Muslim. After marriage, the husband voluntarily converted to a Hindu. Since then, they have been facing the ire of the local Muslims.

Local Muslims in Nazira getting support from Congress leaders

For the uninitiated, the Nazira district is a Congress bastion in the state, with its local MLA being Debabrata Saikia, son of the late Congress leader Hiteswar Saikia, ex-CM of Assam. Though this area currently comes under Jorhat Lok Sabha constituency, from where BJP’s Topon Kumar Gogoi is an MP, before him, from 1991 to 2014, Congress Bijoy Krishna Handique was the MP for 23 consecutive years from here. Here, the local Muslims share a deep rapport with the Congress leaders and enjoy their protection.

Local media reports stated that Sameeruddin is originally a Bangladeshi and his name was not mentioned in the NRC. Since then, he has become more agitated and bitter towards the Hindus.

OpIndia tried to contact the local MP for his comments on this incident but could not speak to him.

 

Tweets, images, videos in link https://www.opindia.com/2020/05/assam-muslim-neighbours-threaten-abuse-attack-hindu-woman-for-watching-tv-during-ramzan/

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In 2017, CPI(M) questioned its minister Kadakampally for visiting, doing religious rites at Guruvayur temple Now in 2020, same CPI(M) govt got ₹5 cr from Guruvayur Temple’s fixed deposits as donation for CM relief fund. Paradoxically, atheists are controlling temples in Kerala

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^* Hindus of Kerala have to fight it out in courts. The TN Govt did the same and after PILs and making noise, TN government withdrew the order. Sab dekho Hindus ke peeche pade rahte hain as they don’t have a collective voice. Bas hamare jaat ka temple safe hai to sab theek hain.

 

https://twitter.com/sumantahindu/status/1257346410657263616?s=21

 

After Madras HC Finds TN Order Asking Temples To Donate To CM’s Covid Fund Untenable, State

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/after-madras-hc-finds-tn-order-asking-temples-to-donate-to-mc-covid-fund-untenable-state-govt-withdraws-it

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On 5/7/2020 at 10:14 PM, Gollum said:

Of course I have a big issue, BJP is no saint party, has enough crooks to swindle the money. Basic question is if they can't touch church property (largest owner of land in India) or zakat of Muslims why do they want to control temples? 

The alternative is private ownership, but then you'll have crooked owners with no political affiliation looking to swindle money. You'd be surprised how many churches and mosques are privately funded (from the west and the gulf).

 

I'm fine with BJP-led governments using temple funds for building infrastructure, other temples, tourism, education, and whatever else. Better to put money in their hands, then someone else's.

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लाउडस्पीकर बजता देख मुस्लिम कट्टरपंथियों ने मंदिर पर किया हमला: रुड़की से शमशेर, अरशद सहित 5 गिरफ्तार

 

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1st man is a Muslim, living in Capital of India (80% Hindus), humiliating directly Hindu religion. No action by government bcoz - Sickularism. 2nd man is Hindu, living in one of 56 Muslim countries, sentenced to 15 years jail on fake charges of Blasphemy. Saare jahaan se acha ..
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First Prithviraj Chavhan and some Bollytards like Subhash Ghai , are asking for Temple gold to be used to fight Coronavirus. A lot of libtards have joined the call to usurp temple funds. They don’t want a Hindurashtra, Want Hospitals instead of Ram Mandir and now clamoring to get to our gold. 
 

They have no right, it belongs to the community and it decides what to do. The “secular” government has no say in the matters of religion and should keep out.

 

https://twitter.com/subhashghai1/status/1261247252225421313?s=21

Ghai had to retract

 

he wanted temple funds to be usurped

 

https://www.opindia.com/2020/05/hindu-priests-slam-congress-leader-prithviraj-chavan-for-suggesting-govt-to-borrow-gold-from-temples-say-take-money-from-congress-leaders-instead/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Hindu priests slam Congress leader Prithviraj Chavan for suggesting govt to borrow gold from temples, say take money from Congress leaders instead


PC: 

#Stimulus.@PMOindia Govt. must immediately appropriate all the gold lying with all the Religious Trusts in the country, worth at least $1 trillion, according to the #WorldGoldCouncil. The gold can be borrowed through gold bonds at a low interest rate. This is an emergency.PC

 

https://twitter.com/prithvrj/status/1260492200955215874?s=21

 

This appropriation he is speaking of is similar to Islamic invaders, Moghuls and then British who looted the temples of their gold donated by devotees.

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30 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Saw many BJP supporters do the same, in fact it was the Hindu RW (SM) that started this talk in the first place. Who needs enemies with allies like these? 

None of those I follow haven’t. Who are these RW who wanted temple gold? I know in Kerala, they have taken 5 crores fro FD of Devoswam board and Deveswam has kept gold donated by devotees in RBI to gain interest. That is not this is. This call is to appropriate (read take it Khilji Style) all Temple gold and use it off.

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How can I be Hinduphobic when I am a Hindu? How can I be anti-India when I am an Indian?

 

This is the paradox which has to be solved. Both locally and global platforms, it is our own people who are setting this bad narrative about our culture and nation.

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Comedian Surleen Kaur panned for 'anti-Hindu' stand-up act from 2019 on Twitter

 

Hindus are haramis, ISKCON walleh porn walleh, Hindu saints used Sanskrit to hide clandestine activities, ancient rishis were perverts, Hindu temples are places of perversion, whole crowd cheering.... stand-up comedy in India. Only one religion has to be mocked for someone to become big in India. 

 

Shemaroo has taken down the video after complaints

 

*This is with regards to the video that has been brought to our notice featuring comedian Ms. Surleen Kaur. The video was found derogatory and the same has been taken down with immediate effect. Shemaroo is committed to ensure our content is neutral and unbiased towards any

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Further to our unconditional apology to ISKCON community for the comments made by Ms. Surleen Kaur, we have decided to disassociate ourselves from any further involvement with Ms Surleen Kaur and Mr Balraj Syal as they failed to meet our standards of public decency.
10:24 AM · May 29, 2020
 
Hindu organisation ISKCON files police complaint against stand-up comedian Surleen Kaur and Shemaroo for derogatory comments against its devotees and Hindus, rejects public apology by the company. ‘Enough is enough’ it says

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3 hours ago, Gollum said:
Further to our unconditional apology to ISKCON community for the comments made by Ms. Surleen Kaur, we have decided to disassociate ourselves from any further involvement with Ms Surleen Kaur and Mr Balraj Syal as they failed to meet our standards of public decency.
10:24 AM · May 29, 2020
 
Hindu organisation ISKCON files police complaint against stand-up comedian Surleen Kaur and Shemaroo for derogatory comments against its devotees and Hindus, rejects public apology by the company. ‘Enough is enough’ it says

Court should reject it. You can't go down the path of mullah extremists getting offended by such stupid stuff.

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6 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Court should reject it. You can't go down the path of mullah extremists getting offended by such stupid stuff.

Message is more important here, apply FOS for all or none. If mocking Hindus on these shows is fine, Muhammad and Jesus too should be fair target. Pains me to say this but here it is a Kaur who is the instigator, Sikhs are a butt of jokes in India but it never extends to gurudwaras, Granth Sahib, the Gurus etc. If some comedian crosses the line and invokes say Guru Nanak I will object, don't worry. 

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It's obvious Hinduphobia is getting mainstream. These are celebs and educated people who are spreading hatred. And Hinduphobia is and will always translate/transcend towards anti-India.

 

The onus is on us ourselves to build a system/ecosystem for repercussions. It is democratic right for us to also respond and react in the same tone. They need to fought legally, boycotted, and punished in their own language.

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8 hours ago, Gollum said:

Message is more important here, apply FOS for all or none. If mocking Hindus on these shows is fine, Muhammad and Jesus too should be fair target. Pains me to say this but here it is a Kaur who is the instigator, Sikhs are a butt of jokes in India but it never extends to gurudwaras, Granth Sahib, the Gurus etc. If some comedian crosses the line and invokes say Guru Nanak I will object, don't worry. 

These are liberal leftist Sikh's which are hardly following Sikhism. They are doing what other liberals do.

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These clowns made TN police cover Bharat Mata statue inside a Hindu temple, the state of affairs in India !!!!

 

All India Christian Development Army files complaint against Bharat Mata statue

https://www.eastcoastdaily.in/2020/05/28/all-india-christian-development-army-files-complaint-against-bharat-mata-statue.html

 

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To tackle Hinduphobia, one must ask for the same rights as Muslims. That's the only way now, as Muslims reforms has not worked. Thus, the onus is for Hindus to push for blasphemy, special rights, temple rights, veto power. That also helps in showing the hypocrisy, of all so called secular and liberals.

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Haryana’s Mewat has become a mini-Pakistan: Committee headed by former Justice Pawan Kumar on Muslim atrocities against Dalits

 

Shri Valmiki Mahasabha of Haryana had decided to constitute a 4-member committee led by Justice Pawan Kumar to bring the reality of the atrocities committed against the Dalits to the fore.

 
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While addressing journalists in Gurugram, Justice Pawan Kumar remarked that Mewat of Haryana is becoming a graveyard of Dalits and there are many reports of women being abducted, raped and forcibly converted in the region.

The team claims that the horror and fear of Islamists among the victims is so palpable that only 19 out of the 48 victims of the Dalit society turned up to register their complaints against the brutalities meted out on them.

The findings of the team revealed that the molestation of girls and women has become pervasive all over Mewat which has caused problems for girls to continue their studies. “A 12-year girl was raped by 4 Muslims and the house where the rape took place was of one of the Muslim cops,” the press release said. No action has been taken against the perpetrators.

Furthermore, the statement also cited an instance from Freozpur Namak where 9 Muslims allegedly raped a woman for several days after forcibly abducting her. The press release stated that no action was taken against the complaint filed and the abductors killed the woman four days later.

Besides, more than 200 cases of forced conversion have allegedly taken place in the region, the team headed by former justice Pawan Kumar said. The committee also added that because of police inaction, the perpetrators have been emboldened and pressure is being mounted on the family members of those forcibly converted to get them converted as well.

“The cremation grounds are being encroached upon. Dalits were abducted and assaulted by Muslims. Attacks on Dalits asking for the refund of burrowed sum to the Muslims have become a common occurrence,” the release read.

The press release shared by Vinod Bansal also stated that Dalit weddings are also been attacked and looted. It added that there also have been instances where the brides have been kidnapped.

 

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22 hours ago, someone said:

To tackle Hinduphobia, one must ask for the same rights as Muslims. That's the only way now, as Muslims reforms has not worked. Thus, the onus is for Hindus to push for blasphemy, special rights, temple rights, veto power. That also helps in showing the hypocrisy, of all so called secular and liberals.

That's the communist or british approach. A non religious governing authority treats all religions the 'same'.

 

Not good enough. You need a more hindu-centric approach, one which dis-incentivizes the muslim identity and brings islamic institutions under hindu control. That's the only way.

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15 minutes ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

That's the communist or british approach. A non religious governing authority treats all religions the 'same'.

 

Not good enough. You need a more hindu-centric approach, one which dis-incentivizes the muslim identity and brings islamic institutions under hindu control. That's the only way.

Lol, either you behave like the opposition side or change the opposition to be on your side. That's the principle logic, and we have been trying the latter for centuries, for Muslims to be more compatible and tolerant. They have received more development, money and yet the hatred has only increased.

 

Thus, now it's up to Hindus to be more resolute and adapt the same tactics of Muslims.

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23 minutes ago, someone said:

Lol, either you behave like the opposition side or change the opposition to be on your side. That's the principle logic, and we have been trying the latter for centuries, for Muslims to be more compatible and tolerant. They have received more development, money and yet the hatred has only increased.

 

Thus, now it's up to Hindus to be more resolute and adapt the same tactics of Muslims.

But if hindus behave like muslims than they have no moral authority. you don't lower yourself to the level of the savage.

 

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1 hour ago, sergio04 said:

 

Even reporting this story means 'Islamophobia' in secular India. Too many of these love jihad cases, almost always the boy fakes a Hindu identity to trap the girl. Not just dharmics, even Christian girls have become targets especially in states like Kerala and Karnataka.

Few days back

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1 hour ago, Gollum said:

 

Ordinary Hindu men & women of India care deeply about their faith & their nation. They have sought leaders who would show them how to protect it from its enemies. The leaders have been weak, submissive, subversive, even treasonous. Such has been the tragedy of Hinduism & India.

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3 hours ago, sergio04 said:

Ordinary Hindu men & women of India care deeply about their faith & their nation. They have sought leaders who would show them how to protect it from its enemies. The leaders have been weak, submissive, subversive, even treasonous. Such has been the tragedy of Hinduism & India.

The problem actually stems from our temples.  These gurus are so afraid of battles. They think that the truth is with them, so why worry what others are saying. Ignoring a problem doesn't make the problem disappear. Thus, instead of countering Hinduphobia, they called that all religions are the same. That was weak, and only encouraged conversions. It's improving a bit now, as at least they have stopped saying it, and focused on mutual respect instead.

 

These gurus also haven't done due diligence and a lot of our vedic stuffs has gone into wrong hands (eg. sheldon pollock)

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