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From Twitter: The problem with most of the SM Hindu political critiques and thinkers is more have lead Hindus in the wrong direction for years. If Hindus had taken our advice years back on strategy and direction then today when a Hindu gets killed then it would also be world. World news met with protests across the world but they never listened and followed this IKs who still dont get it. We said way back then dump the terms RW and Nationalism but stand as just as Hindus or native Hindus or indigenous Hindus or Dharmic people etc and the doors will open and allies will appear across the world because we know how it works in the West better than most.This is why we ended up across world media several times including the anti-Hindu BBC raising issues because we know how to present the Hindu cause but it was always messed up by inarticulate Hindu self appointed leaders who sound bigoted and narrow minded extremists. Hindu culture even now is the most influential indigenous alternative culture across the world. So we always had the biggest advantage over everyone else. So we need to use this raise our persecution to the world but strategically as Krishna did. Start with dumping RW or nationalism as the first step to own our own narrative than playing by the enemies rule book.

twitter.com/hhrLondon/status/1269350821780750340?

Have also said the same thing, You already have lost the battle if one describes themselves by terms given by the opponent. And RW itself has bigoted connotations and western-history which can't be applicable for us.

 

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3 minutes ago, MechEng said:

Yaar, agar you don't want us to boil in anger, then aise waale tweets mat dikhao. I'm embarrassed that I used to be a liberal till 5 years ago.

My aim is ghazwa-e-liberal, will bring all liberals to the right path. You are cured, what about others on ICF :eyedance:?

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2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

My aim is ghazwa-e-liberal, will bring all liberals to the right path. You are cured, what about others on ICF :eyedance:?

I actually admire liberalism as a concept, but some of the things left wing people have done in the past have shocked me. I know there are annoying people in right wing too who think that all great things came from India only but the poison in the hearts of left wing supporters for hindus has shocked me. Really, what have hindus done wrong to allow such poison to build in them? Abhi sharam aati hai thinking that I used to be a devoted NDTV fan for it's intellectual news reporting, they are definitely smart but without good intentions.

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Dalit houses burnt in Jaunpur: Day after UP CM invoked NSA, SP leader Javed Siddiqui and 34 others held

Uttar Pradesh: Dalit houses burnt after clash with Muslims in Jaunpur

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Lucknow: A day after Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath ordered the invoking of the National Security Act (NSA) against those responsible for setting ablaze 12 hutments of Dalits in the Jaunpur district, the state police on Friday arrested Samajwadi Party leader Mohammad Javed Siddiqui and 34 others in connection with the incident.

"Thirty-five people, including local Samajwadi Party leader Mohammad Javed Siddiqui, husband of the local village head, Aftab alias Hitler, and Noor Alam have been arrested. Fifty-seven people have been named in the FIR besides 27 others," said SP Ashok Kumar.

Javed Siddiqui is one of the main accused in the incident that took place in Bhadethi village on June 9.

The UP Chief Minister had yesterday directed the police officials to invoke NSA against the accused and take action against the Station House Officer (SHO) for laxity.

He had further instructed the district officials to provide new accommodation to those whose houses had been burnt under the Awas Yojana. A compensation of Rs one lakh each will be provided to the affected by the UP government's social welfare department.

On Tuesday night, seven persons were left injured when a number of houses in the Sarai Khwaja locality had been set on fire following a dispute amongst children of the area.

As per a resident, "some children had taken their goats and buffaloes to graze in the field. The other group started attacking the animals. When objected, they resorted to arson and violence." 

The Uttar Pradesh government has intensified security and stationed additional police force in Bhadethi village.

As per the UP Police, an argument between the two communities over plucking mangoes from an orchard by children had led to harassment of each other over livestock.

Varanasi Division Commissioner Deepak Agarwal and IG Vijay Singh Meena had on Wednesday visited the village and examined the damage to property.

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In the police complaint filed by the Dalit families, it was alleged that the fight began after the Muslim boys hurled casteist slurs at them.

“When this was opposed, they started beating up my cousins… When some family members, including mothers of my cousins, went to inquire about the incident to the house of the accused, they had to face abuses… Around 6 pm, 57 identified and 20-25 unidentified people from the Muslim community came to our basti with sticks and weapons threatened to kill us… Women and children had to take shelter in the nearby village and 10 houses were burnt by the Muslims,” the complainant told the police.

जय भीम जय मीम की कहानी 72 साल पुरानी ...

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Assam: Five arrested for brutal murder of Rituparna Pegu

 

Guwahati: Massive protest erupts over the killing of 26-year-old Rituparna Pegu  

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"Yesterday, an indigenous youth called Rituparna Pegu was killed by slitting his throat in this very spot. The Mishing community and others have come forth in protest for justice. We demand that there should a proper investigation, and the culprits should be sentenced to death by hanging", said a protester.

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In a major breakthrough, Noonmati police have arrested five accused in the brutal murder of Rituparna Pegu on Friday afternoon.

The arrested have been identified as Dulal Ali, Ibrahim Ali, Manowara Khatun, Hussain Ali and Arman Ali.

Har roz ki kahaani hai...

Earlier Sanatan Deka, now this chap. Assam recorded 34% Muslims in 2011 census, must be closer to 40 now. Millions of illegals, NRC must be done at the earliest. 

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16 Muslim youths held for attack on Dalits in Azamgarh

 

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The confrontation between the two groups occurred after the Dalit men confronted the accused for allegedly harassing some girls. A 22-year-old man identified as Sudhir suffered an injury caused by a sharp-edged weapon, while 11 others were injured with sticks and stones.

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SSP Singh claimed that the accused used to sit at a tube well in the village, and make objectionable remarks about Dalit girls passing through the area on their way to school.

On Wednesday, when the accused again allegedly passed similar remarks, people from the Dalit community objected. A few minutes later, the accused reportedly assembled and attacked the Dalit locality. They allegedly assaulted people in the area, and pelted stones at women.

Imagine the nerve. 

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Good video. The other side is clear, black & white, has a binary mindset as learned though Abrahamic religions . Whereas like Hindu religion, our side don't have a binary thinking, and often are confused.

 

The other side know their biggest target which is Hinduism. Whereas, we don't have one single answer, it can be Congress, Missionaries, Islamists, Communists. The immediate concern is "gate keepers", just like old times of print, tv. The same people, and groups want to dominate and control the online news.

 

Yet, it's disappointing that our people fall into the trap and describe themselves as RW, then it already becomes a lost battle . Instead, just say standing up for Hindus and against Hinduphobia. Muslims aren't a part of wing, and often just focus on supporting their religion...

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5 hours ago, Gollum said:

Assam: Five arrested for brutal murder of Rituparna Pegu

 

Guwahati: Massive protest erupts over the killing of 26-year-old Rituparna Pegu  

Har roz ki kahaani hai...

Earlier Sanatan Deka, now this chap. Assam recorded 34% Muslims in 2011 census, must be closer to 40 now. Millions of illegals, NRC must be done at the earliest. 

Assam and West Bengal is being over run by illegal Bangladeshis!! NRC is needed now

 

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21 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said:

Assam and West Bengal is being over run by illegal Bangladeshis!! NRC is needed now

Communal murders, lynchings, rapes, kidnapping, love jihad happen every day in these 2 states, 99% such incidents covered only in regional media. 

 

Today in Assam বৰপেটাৰ কাৱৈমাৰী ৰিজাৰ্ভত ঘৰৰ পৰাই অপহৰণ কৰি নিলে ১৩ বছৰীয়া কিশোৰীক

 

13 year old Hindu girl abducted by 2 Muslims, Mahibul Islam and Abdul Jaleel. Still at large, I know 2 Mahibul Islams from schools days, typical Bengal Muslim name...Mohibul, Rokibul, Mominul, Nasrul etc. 

 

Imagine if a 13 year old Muslim girl is kidnapped by a Ram and Shivkumar, will MSM ignore that? 

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Any outsider will only laugh at the cowardice of Hindus. We have faced persecution at the hands of Muslims for over 1000 years. Greatest genocide in human history, all our places of worship demolished or damaged/looted, huge part of our land taken away, our country split, Hindus wiped out in neighboring countries and Kashmir, even today we face torture at the hands of Islamists in many forms (physical, mental), yet we can't even speak the truth lest we spoil our image. Still we are at the mercy of these Islamists, all we can do is beg or suffer silently. Small countries like Sri Lanka and Serbia have been more brave yet with 1 billion population Hindus are scared kittens in their own neighborhoods. No Hindu can live in a Muslim ghetto but converse ain't true, we must outnumber Muslims at least 4:1 lest we get slaughtered like goats 

 

A small bunch of old Muslim ladies made the mighty Indian state bend to their will, all because those bigots couldn't digest the fact that a few thousand persecuted minorities from Pak/Afg would get some solace in India. Then the same group burnt our national capital. A scumbag maulana infected the whole country with corona and NSA went and fell at his feet as if he were the living embodiment of Lord Krishna . While Kashmiri Pandits continue to get killed secessionists have extracted their quota of govt bungalows and other perks. Truly a shameless community, if we perish it is because we deserve to perish, survival of the fittest. 

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An important video. It's not attack, but digestion which is the greatest challenge. The knowledge, science, usefulness of Hinduism is getting digested. Thus, the religion is getting erased, and eventually left with nothing other than the caste, cow, curry. That already happened with Native Americans or the pagans.

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On 6/13/2020 at 7:50 PM, someone said:

This guy is probably the only person who is understanding the West..

 

12 hours ago, someone said:

An important video. It's not attack, but digestion which is the greatest challenge. The knowledge, science, usefulness of Hinduism is getting digested. Thus, the religion is getting erased, and eventually left with nothing other than the caste, cow, curry. That already happened with Native Americans or the pagans.

I respectfully disagree with his conclusions. 

 

1. West has not taken any "Religious Knowledge" from the Hinduism. The Vedas and all the Shastras and Mantaras for worship and all the other religious Hindu books are/were of ZERO importance for the West. 

 

2. West has far superior democratic and secular system, which they achieved at their own and neither Hinduism as religion played any role in it, nor the Hindu Kingdoms ever posed themselves as role models. When the Europeans started interacting with India, at that time Hindu Rajas and Maharajas were fighting with each other and killing each other. 

 

3. If he is claiming that India contributed to the Knowledge of Physics and Chemistry and Maths, then no nation has monopoly upon such type of knowledge. If India ever gave such knowledge in the past, then in present India is taking a lot of such knowledge from the West. 

 

4. The speaker in this Video is posing the West as Christian, and they claiming it to the conspiracy of the West to digest the Indian Knowledge and convert the Indian towards Christianity. 

It is only a "Conspiracy Theory" with no bases to it. 

West is not only the Christianity, but it is also the atheism and State System which is free of any religion. 

 

Clearly, the Speaker of these videos totally neglected and digested the presence of atheism and non-religious element in the West and uttered not a single word about it. He is making Indians fearful of the attacks of Christian missionaries so that they digest his conspiracy theory. 

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On 6/13/2020 at 9:06 AM, Gollum said:

Any outsider will only laugh at the cowardice of Hindus. We have faced persecution at the hands of Muslims for over 1000 years. Greatest genocide in human history, all our places of worship demolished or damaged/looted, huge part of our land taken away, our country split, Hindus wiped out in neighboring countries and Kashmir, even today we face torture at the hands of Islamists in many forms (physical, mental), yet we can't even speak the truth lest we spoil our image. Still we are at the mercy of these Islamists, all we can do is beg or suffer silently. Small countries like Sri Lanka and Serbia have been more brave yet with 1 billion population Hindus are scared kittens in their own neighborhoods. No Hindu can live in a Muslim ghetto but converse ain't true, we must outnumber Muslims at least 4:1 lest we get slaughtered like goats 

 

A small bunch of old Muslim ladies made the mighty Indian state bend to their will, all because those bigots couldn't digest the fact that a few thousand persecuted minorities from Pak/Afg would get some solace in India. Then the same group burnt our national capital. A scumbag maulana infected the whole country with corona and NSA went and fell at his feet as if he were the living embodiment of Lord Krishna . While Kashmiri Pandits continue to get killed secessionists have extracted their quota of govt bungalows and other perks. Truly a shameless community, if we perish it is because we deserve to perish, survival of the fittest. 

So what do you propose Hindus to do? You want them to kill every Muslim that they see out on the streets? This will help us get rid of several hundred of them but won’t completely wipe them out from the country. 
 

What do you want to happen?

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15 minutes ago, SecondSlip said:

So what do you propose Hindus to do? You want them to kill every Muslim that they see out on the streets? This will help us get rid of several hundred of them but won’t completely wipe them out from the country. 
 

What do you want to happen?

Already said it.

On 6/13/2020 at 6:36 PM, Gollum said:

Any outsider will only laugh at the cowardice of Hindus. We have faced persecution at the hands of Muslims for over 1000 years. Greatest genocide in human history, all our places of worship demolished or damaged/looted, huge part of our land taken away, our country split, Hindus wiped out in neighboring countries and Kashmir, even today we face torture at the hands of Islamists in many forms (physical, mental), yet we can't even speak the truth lest we spoil our image. Still we are at the mercy of these Islamists, all we can do is beg or suffer silently. Small countries like Sri Lanka and Serbia have been more brave yet with 1 billion population Hindus are scared kittens in their own neighborhoods. No Hindu can live in a Muslim ghetto but converse ain't true, we must outnumber Muslims at least 4:1 lest we get slaughtered like goats 

First things first start telling the truth. Forget about image or PC BS, certain fundamental truths must be put on the table even if it makes many squirm, even if the truth appears crude. Stop being on the defensive every time, whether it be in academia or how we bring about laws. Set the agenda, take the initiative instead of being reactionary. 

On 6/13/2020 at 6:36 PM, Gollum said:

A small bunch of old Muslim ladies made the mighty Indian state bend to their will, all because those bigots couldn't digest the fact that a few thousand persecuted minorities from Pak/Afg would get some solace in India. Then the same group burnt our national capital. A scumbag maulana infected the whole country with corona and NSA went and fell at his feet as if he were the living embodiment of Lord Krishna . While Kashmiri Pandits continue to get killed secessionists have extracted their quota of govt bungalows and other perks. Truly a shameless community, if we perish it is because we deserve to perish, survival of the fittest. 

And this, stop meek surrenders in front of rabid Islamists and clerics. Stop all forms of appeasement, stop Kashmiriyat-Insaniyat naatak, stop gifting secessionists 5 star bungalows in the heart of national capital. 

 

These are some of the things that must be done now, bare minimum. If we don't we'll have a real problem on our hands in a few years time and then the solutions might incorporate apartheid, revocation of voting rights, private militias etc. and we will be in a civil war situation for the next 100 years or until the next partition. Choice is simple and fair for all parties, the more we delay the more we come close to doom. 

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16 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Already said it.

First things first start telling the truth. Forget about image or PC BS, certain fundamental truths must be put on the table even if it makes many squirm, even if the truth appears crude. Stop being on the defensive every time, whether it be in academia or how we bring about laws. Set the agenda, take the initiative instead of being reactionary. 

And this, stop meek surrenders in front of rabid Islamists and clerics. Stop all forms of appeasement, stop Kashmiriyat-Insaniyat naatak, stop gifting secessionists 5 star bungalows in the heart of national capital. 

 

These are some of the things that must be done now, bare minimum. If we don't we'll have a real problem on our hands in a few years time and then the solutions might incorporate apartheid, revocation of voting rights, private militias etc. and we will be in a civil war situation for the next 100 years or until the next partition. Choice is simple and fair for all parties, the more we delay the more we come close to doom. 

India isn’t under British rule anymore that it will partition its land. Even a dirt poor country like Nigeria is holding its ground and didn’t give an inch away despite having 50% Islamic population + Boko Haram terrorism. We are a nuclear powered country with a very strong economy. Not even god can partition India again. 

 

Radical Islamic terrorism will be dealt with severely. We will wipe out anyone who wants civil war. It will be even more brutal than how Sri Lanka wiped out LTTE. 

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1 minute ago, SecondSlip said:

India isn’t under British rule anymore that it will partition its land. Even a dirt poor country like Nigeria is holding its ground and didn’t give an inch away despite having 50% Islamic population + Boko Haram terrorism. We are a nuclear powered country with a very strong economy. Not even god can partition India again. 

 

Radical Islamic terrorism will be dealt with severely. We will wipe out anyone who wants civil war. It will be even more brutal than how Sri Lanka wiped out LTTE. 

There won't be partition but we'll definitely see an attempt, a movement in that direction. Preparations have to start from now itself, how to deal with that situation in the future, may come in 2060 or end of the century but it is inevitable. Too many enemies encircle us waiting to pounce on us, fifth column runs amok. Nuclear bombs won't help us when the enemy is inside the house. 

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@SecondSlip don't compare us with the Lankans, not only is the geography/history different, we also lack their ruthlessness. Huge parts of our country aren't under govt control, thousands of localities in each state are no-go areas for police, and this isn't limited to Kashmir. Without solving something as basic as that, how do we go ahead?

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7 hours ago, Gollum said:

@SecondSlip don't compare us with the Lankans, not only is the geography/history different, we also lack their ruthlessness. Huge parts of our country aren't under govt control, thousands of localities in each state are no-go areas for police, and this isn't limited to Kashmir. Without solving something as basic as that, how do we go ahead?

Give the Army a free hand as KPS Gill was given to wipe out Punjab insurgency and this fellow was a mere IPS officer. Imagine that confidence and freedom for the Army.

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Look at this BJP Nutter trying to separate yoga from Hinduism. Rishi Patanjali's Yogasutras were intrinsic in the vedas, it was a means to attain a state of higher consciousness. Now being diluted into a non-religious exercise. Yog is as much a Hindu symbol as the symbol Om, or swastika.

 

 

 

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Another Dalit man lynched by community that muct not be named. Over a trivial incident, many other Dalits injured, 4th attack on their community this month in UP and all by <must not be named>, why can't these poor Dalits fight back? Always one-sided violence. 

Won't make it to WaPo, won't make it to Indian MSM....

Sorry Jaiprakash, wrong religion, expecting govts to hand over 2 crore Rs worth scholarship and benefits to those who killed him.

 

देवरिया मॉब लिंचिंग: जयप्रकाश की हत्या पर आक्रोश में ग्रामीण, हत्या में शामिल इश्तियाक समेत 3 दर्जन लोगों के लिए फांसी की मांग

 

देवरिया: जामुन तोड़ने को लेकर दो संप्रदायों के बीच बवाल, एक की मौत, कई घायल

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1 hour ago, diga said:

^ Man .. you & Mariyam are the experts in Urdu. You should enlighten us mortals

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Kufr

 

Kufr is the original arabic root, but Bollywood has normalized kaffir to mean some intoxicating/forbidden/sexy meaning, but it is demeaning and refers to non-Muslim lesser symbols

 


[Ultimately from Arabic kāfir, infidel; see kafir. Sense 1, from the fact that the majority of the Nuristani were not converted to Islam until the late 19th century.]
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