beetle Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 11:20 PM, Turning_track said: If Ganga-Jamuni Tehzeeb is the gold standard, then Kashmiriyat is absolutely Platinum. Where does this kashmiriyat go when Pandits are concerned? Where does this kashmiriyat go when people thow stones to kill soldiers. Kashmiriyat is a delusion . sergio04 and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Robin- Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Now Gulam nabi azad says "anyone can be bought with money" over Ajit Doval meeting with Kashmiris Gollum, Laaloo, sergio04 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 1:47 AM, rkt.india said: In an attempt to appear anti-Modi, they have become anti-India. Personally ,I hated the way they made Art370 inoperable as it doesn't set good precedence for our democracy ,but finally it is gone in ditch.I'm just being optimistic for the people of that region. I hope ecology of that region specially Ladhak is kept in mind before undertaking any big projects in the name of development . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I think Congress lost the plot. Even its leaders cant continue with party line. Question is why? Congress top management needs to rethink. Their Whole strategy was wrong. Their strategist needs to be fired. Congress could have gained a lot as well or wouldn’t have lost turf. I can atleast think two such “lines of arguments” which will make Them look good or bjp unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 55 minutes ago, -Robin- said: Now Gulam nabi azad says "anyone can be bought with money" over Ajit Doval meeting with Kashmiris woo sab politics hai . Ladhak ( barring certain parts of Kargil) and Jammu will remain mostly happy about the decision. Only Kashmir valley is headache where divide is sharp . Kashmir Valley is in pits imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Stuge said: woo sab politics hai . Ladhak ( barring certain parts of Kargil) and Jammu will remain mostly happy about the decision. Only Kashmir valley is headache where divide is sharp . Kashmir Valley is in pits imo. I fully disagree with last statement. Kashmir Valley has had effectively King And subjects relationship. Subject mentality is blocker. It will take a whole new generation of mindset. The Subjects need to be told that under new system, their is no change to their life, infact now they will be part of a set of 21st century modern system and they should and must give it a chance. Their kings have failed them but now Onus is now on India parliament. Indian Parliament will meet their aspirations because it has a track record of taking care of various regions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turning_track Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 6 hours ago, beetle said: Where does this kashmiriyat go when Pandits are concerned? Where does this kashmiriyat go when people thow stones to kill soldiers. Kashmiriyat is a delusion . That is what I said, this term is nothing but a romanticized version of crap to fool people. When a community specific has been at peace with the exodus of Pandits many times in the past few centuries, then this KASHMIRIYAT is pure hogwash. Who got the jobs & business when KPs were forcefully thrown out? Who occupied their lands & property? If somehow in near future KPs return to their place, would their benevolent neighbours return everything back? beetle and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) Not just Congress, other deshdrohi parties apart from Kashmir based ones whom I don't even consider 'Indian': TMC JDU...biggest culprit IMO, deserves to be kicked out of NDA NCP DMK RJD SP MDMK All Commie outfits AIUDF MIM Am I missing some others who opposed GOI move? Credit to AAP, BSP, AIADMK, PMK, BJD, TRS, YSRP, TDP who supported this national cause despite not being part of NDA, having other political differences etc. Edited August 8, 2019 by Gollum adi B, Stradlater, speedheat and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Congress (Maino-Gandhi-Vadra) is nothing but a conglomeration of Anti-India forces, so this is hardly surprising. There still are some decent folk in the party and I hope for their own sake they either breakaway and form their own party or defect to other parties. sergio04 and Laaloo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gollum said: Not just Congress, other deshdrohi parties apart from Kashmir based ones whom I don't even consider 'Indian': TMC JDU...biggest culprit IMO NCP DMK RJD SP MDMK All Commie outfits Am I missing some others who opposed GOI move? Credit to AAP, BSP, AIADMK, PMK, BJD, TRS, YSRP, TDP who supported this national cause despite not being part of NDA, having other political differences etc. Who is this Stalin. I heard he was trying to call all opposition party meet. JDU is confused bunch. CBN and Nitish are top grade opportunistic politicians. For them , everything is politics. As far as SP is concerned, I wonder if it was unilateral decision of Akhilesh. I do not believe that he had Netaji(Mulayam Sing) blessing. Mulayam was our defense Minister. He can not and will not support such moove. Akhilesh is now turning SP into some sort of Muslim League under able guidance of Azam Khan and if he thinks Yadavs will support him. Then I am certain that he is living in La La Land. For me, Mayavati is real Hero. She was first to break the ranks and despite being anti Modi, She went for support. Completely decimated JDU jolt to NDA in parliamentary proceedings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, mishra said: Who is this Stalin. I heard he was trying to call all opposition party meet. JDU is confused bunch. CBN and Nitish are top grade opportunistic politicians. For them , everything is politics. As far as SP is concerned, I wonder if it was unilateral decision of Akhilesh. I do not believe that he had Netaji(Mulayam Sing) blessing. Mulayam was our defense Minister. He can not and will not support such moove. Akhilesh is now turning SP into some sort of Muslim League under able guidance of Azam Khan and if he thinks Yadavs will support him. Then I am certain that he is living in La La Land. For me, Mayavati is real Hero. She was first to break the ranks and despite being anti Modi, She went for support. Completely decimated JDU jolt to NDA in parliamentary proceedings You overrate Mulayam, he too is an asshole. Don't be fooled by his recent antics, they have a selfish streak to favor Akhilesh. You are correct about Behenji, real star of the show. I want BJP-BSP tie up (said this before general election as well) in the future after removing irritants from both sides (Ansaris/QED from her side have to go). Since Mayawati will never appoint a successor BJP can absorb BSP after her, or at least a large chunk of it. Meanwhile give her some position of importance, keep her entertained, use CBI card shrewdly. She can't ally with SP because their OBC votes don't transfer to Dalits easily, even she will be desperate after being out of power for so long. A BJP-BSP combo with future merger will ensure UP is the right hands for the next 30 years min , BJP will also stand to benefit in other states. She did come to power on the basis of Brahmin-Dalit unity, BJP-BSP is much bigger than that cos BJP has non-Yadav OBCs as well as non-Jatav SCs, BSP has entire votebank of Jatavs and Chamars, some Muslims and some Brahimns....the maths is strong and possibly so is the chemistry. What say @G_B_, our resident Indian politics expert. Edited August 8, 2019 by Gollum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 1:47 AM, rkt.india said: In an attempt to appear anti-Modi, they have become anti-India. this .. once again opposition is caught off guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) On Article 370, Congress should be marching from Lal Qila to Lal Chowk: Digvijaya Singh Quote Less than an hour after the Rajya Sabha passed a bill downgrading Jammu and Kashmir to a union territory, on 5 August, the senior Congress leader Digvijaya Singh suggested that his party launch an emphatic protest against the house’s decision. “What would have Mahatma Gandhi done … in a situation that this bill had come and passed? I think he would have taken a march from Lal Qila to Lal Chowk to show the solidarity with the Kashmiris,” Singh said, at a book launch in Delhi. When a journalist asked him whether the Congress leadership would have the courage to do so, Singh said, “That’s what I would want them to do.” Singh was speaking at the launch of the journalist Dhirendra K Jha’s book, Ascetic Games: Sadhus, Akharas and the Making of the Hindu vote—the publishers Westland Publicationsco-hosted the event, alongside The Caravan. LINK All hail Diggy Piggy Edited August 8, 2019 by Gollum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 someone trolled vaiko in FB Turning_track, sergio04, Gollum and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 this is pathetic, India needs a credible opposition party which is aligned with the people and is a real alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 Dr Karan Singh, veteran Congress politician and son of late Maharaja Hari Singh has welcomed the abrogation of art 370. Oh Congress you are so so screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 9:10 PM, Stradlater said: They repeatedly tried to stall parliamentary proceedings. Their spokesperson fervently asserted that Kashmir wasn't India's internal matter and was in fact a UN disputed territory. At this point I don't see any difference between them and Pakistanis. I hope this party implodes from within and finished for good. For too long we have allowed these aasteen ke saanp to roam free amongst us. Arey chicha, proven? Pehle ye batao ye bhi doubt krne wali baat thi?ye utna hi bada shashvat satya hai jitna Kutte ki dum sidha na hona. sergio04 and Stradlater 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Its not like they don't understand this brilliant move by GOI. They have shown their traitorous mentality and its been proven now that they are the real traitors. These congressi dogs will silently be praying for something bad to happen so that they can attack the modi government again, they are that selfish. Bhaiyya, sergio04, Stradlater and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Congress, and the entire UPA should now declare in its manifesto that they will bring back article 370. Media, BJP should ask such things to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Gollum said: You overrate Mulayam, he too is an asshole. Don't be fooled by his recent antics, they have a selfish streak to favor Akhilesh. You are correct about Behenji, real star of the show. I want BJP-BSP tie up (said this before general election as well) in the future after removing irritants from both sides (Ansaris/QED from her side have to go). Since Mayawati will never appoint a successor BJP can absorb BSP after her, or at least a large chunk of it. Meanwhile give her some position of importance, keep her entertained, use CBI card shrewdly. She can't ally with SP because their OBC votes don't transfer to Dalits easily, even she will be desperate after being out of power for so long. A BJP-BSP combo with future merger will ensure UP is the right hands for the next 30 years min , BJP will also stand to benefit in other states. She did come to power on the basis of Brahmin-Dalit unity, BJP-BSP is much bigger than that cos BJP has non-Yadav OBCs as well as non-Jatav SCs, BSP has entire votebank of Jatavs and Chamars, some Muslims and some Brahimns....the maths is strong and possibly so is the chemistry. What say @G_B_, our resident Indian politics expert. Impossible. Unless likes of AIMIM or some new Muslim leadership emerges and take away large chunk of Muslim votes, these regional parties will be very happy to stick with their Muslim appeasement agenda. It's guarantees sponsorship, money for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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