gakgupta Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Well... As a indian fan, It was painful to watch him wither away esp after promising first 2 years. Jason Gillespie mentioned that he is a better version of him. Jason was a very good bowler of Ozzie then. He did everything to loose pace, line and length and became mediacore bowler. Now he has been consistent and sticking to his basics well... He might not take the game away from opposition but he is very consistent and gets his quota of wickets... Sent from my Nokia 6.1 using Tapatalk Vk1, Rightarmfast and GolGappe 3 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Now? Doing it for 4-5 years. Only aberration have been the series vs SA and Aus in India where he took 4 wickets@81 in 6 tests. But he was playing the role of holding one end up bowling long spells without giving much. His record since 2014 is 39 tests, 129 wickets@27. Take out those two series, numbers improve to 33 tests, 125 wickets@25, that’s top class. My only concern is that he will be attacked soon by pace fanatics for not bowling 140+ and there will be calls for him to be dropped for being a trundler. Pratik77, Rightarmfast, flamy and 3 others 1 2 3 Link to comment
Pratik77 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I think it's been 4-5 years since he start delivering...u can go back to NZ 14 series or SL 15 series as starting point... Link to comment
mani sha Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 He has always bowled well . Now he gets more wickets due to a length change . Also he is at peak of his career . India may not have another Ishant for a long time ! Link to comment
Deleted_User_1 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Yeah, from Ishant to Pissant to Ishant again! Link to comment
G_B_ Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 might end up with a sub 30 bowling average should he achieve that then might just become one of the top 5 indian greats of pace bowling.... 92 test matches played and only 31. needs 40 more tests to overtake kapil dev in terms of tests played. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 8 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Now? Doing it for 4-5 years. Only aberration have been the series vs SA and Aus in India where he took 4 wickets@81 in 6 tests. But he was playing the role of holding one end up bowling long spells without giving much. His record since 2014 is 39 tests, 129 wickets@27. Take out those two series, numbers improve to 33 tests, 125 wickets@25, that’s top class. My only concern is that he will be attacked soon by pace fanatics for not bowling 140+ and there will be calls for him to be dropped for being a trundler. Yes, I have been masquerading as a 16 yr blonde chick on my whatsapp and I have messaged Shastri. He has asked me to discuss Ishant's place in the team, over drinks in his hotel room! Mosher, express bowling and vishalvirsingh 2 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Question is who will sit when playing at home or in Asia.Ishant or Shami have to make way for Ashwin. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 But all this praise shouldn't put him in starting line up ever in India. He sits behind all other prospects like Saini and of course behind Shami and Bumrah. He should continue to be picked overseas but not at home. Basically opposite of Ashwin, who should only be picked at home and not overseas. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, putrevus said: Question is who will sit when playing at home or in Asia.Ishant or Shami have to make way for Ashwin. While playing in India, Shami has been the best Indian pacer ever in our history. In India it is about reverse swing at skiddy quick pace ... and Shami is an absolute master of that. Vijy, Cricketics and Rightarmfast 3 Link to comment
putrevus Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, express bowling said: While playing in India, Shami has been the best Indian pacer ever in our history. In India it is about reverse swing at skiddy quick pace ... and Shami is an absolute master of that. Best pacer in history is bit too much , he has just one 5fer (that too in his first test) in 11 tests and 40 in total. Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, putrevus said: Best pacer in history is bit too much , he has just one 5fer (that too in his first test) in 11 tests and 40 in total. Shami has the lowest average and lowest strike rate among all Indian pacers in ouf history, while bowling in India. ( minimum 20 wickets ) Mosher 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 14 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Now? Doing it for 4-5 years. Only aberration have been the series vs SA and Aus in India where he took 4 wickets@81 in 6 tests. But he was playing the role of holding one end up bowling long spells without giving much. His record since 2014 is 39 tests, 129 wickets@27. Take out those two series, numbers improve to 33 tests, 125 wickets@25, that’s top class. My only concern is that he will be attacked soon by pace fanatics for not bowling 140+ and there will be calls for him to be dropped for being a trundler. Why are you so concerned? Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Shami has the lowest average and lowest strike rate among all Indian pacers in ouf history, while bowling in India. ( minimum 20 wickets ) Sample size is too small and one 5fer does not say he is outright match winner.It just shows he is a good support bowler in India.I don't mind him playing in India at all.But I would like Saini to get a chance also. Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 If you give anyone with some bowling ability who had the worst record for the first 50 tests to play 90+ tests, he is bound to deliver at some point. express bowling 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Suhaan said: Why are you so concerned? Why does it bother you? Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 21 minutes ago, putrevus said: Sample size is too small and one 5fer does not say he is outright match winner.It just shows he is a good support bowler in India.I don't mind him playing in India at all.But I would like Saini to get a chance also. One 5fer is the result of him not getting that many overs in most matches in India. He missed a couple of green tops due to injury. Shami and Saini would be my preferred picks vs Bangladesh. Bumrah and Shami vs SA. Mosher 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, express bowling said: One 5fer is the result of him not getting that many overs in most matches in India. He missed a couple of green tops due to injury. Shami and Saini would be my preferred picks vs Bangladesh. Bumrah and Shami vs SA. Both Siraj and Saini should debut vs BD. If Siraj does not get his chance vs BD, then all these India A matches should be discontinued. The guy must have picked some 75-80 FC wickets for A side in last 15 months. Makes no sense if such a performance does not earn you a test cap. Cricwala 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: If you give anyone with some bowling ability who had the worst record for the first 50 tests to play 90+ tests, he is bound to deliver at some point. It doesn't work like that. Players will have worse records if they keep on playing for longer time. Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: It doesn't work like that. Players will have worse records if they keep on playing for longer time. Jimmy Anderson is an exception hopefully Ishant will join him Link to comment
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