Rightarmfast Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Patrick Patterson was terrifying. Merv Hughes and Craig Mcdermott, although they were not fiery fast as I know now, were scary. Devon Malcom also was mighty scary. Waqar had it and for sure Shaoib had it. Mosher, Vilander, Suhaan and 1 other 4 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Purely from Indian context has to be Akhtar. Our batsmen were clueless on how to deal with him. Used to wait for his spell to get over. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, Vk1 said: Mitchell Johnson in 2013 Ashes was just unplayable with helmets and all those guards that they wear... that highlight reel on Youtube showing his wickets is just an awesome one with that perfect commentary of Mark Nicholas, Slater etc.. He did the same to South Africa in the next series. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) Mid 1980s ... Marshall, Late 1980s ... Patterson 1990s ... Donald 2000s ... Brett Lee Early 2010s ... Johnson, Late 2010s ... Archer Edited October 18, 2019 by express bowling maniac, Vilander, Turning_track and 4 others 7 Link to comment
adi B Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 During my childhood Alan Donald was easily the most intimidating and used to scare me for the same reasons OP mentioned. Another bowler I was scared was Henry olonga lol raki05, Suhaan and maniac 2 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, express bowling said: Mid 1980s ... Marshall, Late 1980s ... Patterson 1990s ... Donald 2000s ... Brett Lee Early 2010s ... Johnson, Late 2010s ... Archer Brett Lee wasn't that intimidating. Akhtar was. Vk1 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Fail thread, no Majid mia means epic FAIL raki05 1 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: Indian pitches were not placid in those days. Chennai used to be one of the fastest pitches in 80s. We regularly used to lay out green tops. This changed in 90s onwards when spin friendly pitches were made as Kapil declined and Kumble rose. I remember a former cricketer was talking about during a match. He was saying pitches were more pace friendly in India in 80s. He talked about Botham taking 13-fer in Mumbai in early 80s on a green top. Indian pitches were less crumbly back then but still were mostly slow turners by day 3. Kapil notwithstanding, nobody put out green tops against the fearsome foursome of the WI. Unlike you, we actually saw those matches. Indian pitches were definitely not pace friendly when the windies visited and many windies pacers said so themselves. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Devon Malcolm was / should have been almost as quick as Akhtar. Shocking that noone talks about him. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
Mosher Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: Patrick Patterson was terrifying. Merv Hughes and Craig Mcdermott, although they were not fiery fast as I know now, were scary. Devon Malcom also was mighty scary. Waqar had it and for sure Shaoib had it. I remember watching Patrick Patterson break the stumps of some Indian batsman. Scary big guy. Suhaan, Vilander, adi B and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 In Australia, I won a competition and got to face an over of Brett Lee. I asked him to bowl only outside off stump and that was when he was at his peak. That was frightening to say the least. I landed two on the bat, which is easy only because I knew exactly where he would bowl, otherwise it would have been a nightmare to land bat on ball. The speed is something else. I would hate to imagine if he aimed at the stumps, my body or gave me a bouncer. Mosher, Vilander and adi B 1 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Devon Malcolm was / should have been almost as quick as Akhtar. Shocking that noone talks about him. He wasn't. His quickest recorded delivery was 152kph. Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Just now, rkt.india said: He wasn't. His quickest recorded delivery was 152kph. That says nothing of his average quickness or as was the case with Devon, an extreme ‘confidence’ bowler, when he felt super confident. In his insane 8-for or 9-for I remember watching, he was bowling at a searing pace and everyone was shocked how hostile and good he was being. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: That says nothing of his average quickness or as was the case with Devon, an extreme ‘confidence’ bowler, when he felt super confident. In his insane 8-for or 9-for I remember watching, he was bowling at a searing pace and everyone was shocked how hostile and good he was being. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283875.html In a fast bowling competition in 98, Malcom was the winner clocking 141 kph. Also even 152 kph is as quick as most genuine fast bowlers will bowl. I am not saying he wasn't fast but my point was he wasn't Lee, akhtar fast in top pace. Edited October 18, 2019 by rkt.india Link to comment
R!TTER Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Well tbf none of the modern day quicks were, even Thommo given that Lee/Shoaib were super quick for at least a decade each & consistently so. I doubt we'll see anyone come regularly close to their pace in our lifetimes. Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283875.html In a fast bowling competition in 98, Malcom was the winner clocking 141 kph. Also even 152 kph is as quick as most genuine fast bowlers will bowl. I am not saying he wasn't fast but my point was he wasn't Lee, akhtar fast in top pace. Again, 0.001% sample means nothing statistically. Akhtar could barely bowl more than 150kph 3 overs in a trot, for eg. Akhtar had the best top end speed, but if you survived 25 balls against him, he dropped to the low-mid 140s as the man had no stamina to speak of. Lee or Holding on the other hand, maintained their speeds for well over multiple 5-8 over bursts and tiring only after bowling 20 overs or so for a whole damn day. Link to comment
Turning_track Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Again, 0.001% sample means nothing statistically. Akhtar could barely bowl more than 150kph 3 overs in a trot, for eg. Akhtar had the best top end speed, but if you survived 25 balls against him, he dropped to the low-mid 140s as the man had no stamina to speak of. Lee or Holding on the other hand, maintained their speeds for well over multiple 5-8 over bursts and tiring only after bowling 20 overs or so for a whole damn day. Brett Lee bowling visciously in 2003 WC is one of the best bowling I've seen in a prolonged ICC tournament. Regularly clocked 150kmph+ speeds with threatening bouncers fetching him a lot of wickets. The South African pitches really suited him. maniac, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: He wasn't. His quickest recorded delivery was 152kph. I think theres a difference between actually seeing someone bowl, and checking stats online. btw, Devon Malcolm was clocked at 156 as his fastest, as far as a I remember. Since speed guns werent invogue then, its difficult to say, but Devon was scary as hell and definitely was a 155 k bowler. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Again, 0.001% sample means nothing statistically. Akhtar could barely bowl more than 150kph 3 overs in a trot, for eg. Akhtar had the best top end speed, but if you survived 25 balls against him, he dropped to the low-mid 140s as the man had no stamina to speak of. Lee or Holding on the other hand, maintained their speeds for well over multiple 5-8 over bursts and tiring only after bowling 20 overs or so for a whole damn day. How many bowlers can bowl low-mid 140s as an average pace. You know what the average speed of Johnson in that Ashes 142-143. Even if Akhtar slowed down, his average speed was still higher than most fast bowlers. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Again, 0.001% sample means nothing statistically. Akhtar could barely bowl more than 150kph 3 overs in a trot, for eg. Akhtar had the best top end speed, but if you survived 25 balls against him, he dropped to the low-mid 140s as the man had no stamina to speak of. Lee or Holding on the other hand, maintained their speeds for well over multiple 5-8 over bursts and tiring only after bowling 20 overs or so for a whole damn day. No one apart from Lee And Akhtar in last 20 years since proper speed gun use has bowled 150 kph 3 overs on a troat. Your exaggerations are laughable. do you even understand what is 150 kph means. It's 93 mph of average. Only Akhtar and Lee at their peak has done that. That too mostly in LOIs. Edited October 18, 2019 by rkt.india Vilander and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
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