Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Contest only for Indian condition Ill say hands down kohli's team - as 3 guys like gambhir, zak, DK didnt even achieve their peak and were struggling in their own ways. Kohli bowling attack is relentless with no breathing space Shami umesh much better at reverse swing Pujara has done better then Dravid in India Gollum 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Contest only for Indian condition Ill say hands down kohli's team - as 3 guys like gambhir, zak, DK didnt even achieve their peak and were struggling in their own ways. Kohli bowling attack is relentless with no breathing space Shami umesh much better at reverse swing Pujara has done better then Dravid in India Kohli’s team batsmen got bundled out vs Moeen Ali and Lyon and you think they can handle Kumble and Bhajji in his prime? Also good lucking dropping catches of Sachin,Dravid and Sehwag and on the other hand Dravid,VVS and Sehwag will grab every chance along the way. anish2tweet 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Batting heavy team. I go with 2004. raki05 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Current teams batting is much weaker than Ganguly team. And fab 5 might be able to counter the current bowlers. Its not an open and shut case, In India the earlier team might beat the current team. But overseas Kolhis team will win. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, maniac said: Kohli’s team batsmen got bundled out vs Moeen Ali and Lyon and you think they can handle Kumble and Bhajji in his prime? Also good lucking dropping catches of Sachin,Dravid and Sehwag and on the other hand Dravid,VVS and Sehwag will grab every chance along the way. I think it will be one hell of a match Ganguly's team had outstanding batting ability while Kohli's team has a poisonous attack in these conditions Cant say who ll win I think one who wins the toss will almost be there,as i dont think current lineup is "that" capable to counter bhajji kumble on a 4-5 th day pitch and vice versa raki05 and anish2tweet 1 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Lol Jadejas steer would end by teatime on day 1 if 2004 team bats first. Gollum 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 That chokers lineup against Shami and co in the last innings may not be a good sight as used to be the case circa 2004-06. On the flip side this Indian side need to be wary of Kumble mostly. Link to comment
maniac Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Suhaan said: I think it will be one hell of a match Ganguly's team had outstanding batting ability while Kohli's team has a poisonous attack in these conditions Cant say who ll win I think one who wins the toss will almost be there,as i dont think current lineup is "that" capable to counter bhajji kumble on a 4-5 th day pitch and vice versa If it is a bowling pitch it comes down to a batting shoot out. The 2019 attack is collectively better but it is not like guys like Kumble and Bhajji Cant run through sides on a 4th and 5th day pitch. If it is a batting pitch, I think Kohli’s team is more potent as an attack but then guys like Sachin,Dravid,VVS and Dada have played much better attacks in overseas conditions Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, maniac said: Kohli’s team batsmen got bundled out vs Moeen Ali and Lyon and you think they can handle Kumble and Bhajji in his prime? moeen ali bundled us out in england...but he was ineffective when he came to india mayank, rohit, pujara, kohli all play spin well Where lyon got 8 fer wasnt a gr8 surface n one batsman we had was mukund- mayank n rohit are far better. If they play on poor surface ill say good luck any greta batsman against jadeja ....shami n umesh reverse What leg spinner troubled indian team in India recently ? 4 minutes ago, maniac said: Also good lucking dropping catches of Sachin,Dravid and Sehwag and on the other hand Dravid,VVS and Sehwag will grab every chance along the way. we dont drop as much now as we use to a 2 yrs ago...still our catching wud be worse then them but 2019 bowling is far ahead Also as if those guys never dropped catches surely the ratio wud be less but tehy also did drop catches and lets not forget there keeper DK Link to comment
Suhaan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 People ,you need to think about toss too If Kohli's team wins toss and bats first they can even give GOAT Aussies run for their money express bowling 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 the only diff i see in 2 teams was sehwag ....if he had his day kisi ki nahin chalegi AuxiliA, Gollum and adi B 3 Link to comment
maniac Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: moeen ali bundled us out in england...but he was ineffective when he came to india mayank, rohit, pujara, kohli all play spin well Where lyon got 8 fer wasnt a gr8 surface n one batsman we had was mukund- mayank n rohit are far better. If they play on poor surface ill say good luck any greta batsman against jadeja ....shami n umesh reverse What leg spinner troubled indian team in India recently ? we dont drop as much now as we use to a 2 yrs ago...still our catching wud be worse then them but 2019 bowling is far ahead Also as if those guys never dropped catches surely the ratio wud be less but tehy also did drop catches and lets not forget there keeper DK Kumble is not a conventional leg spinner. He has run through better line ups than the current Indian line up in home conditions and you think this team will handle Kumble like a piece of cake lol. Kumble is hands down the most difficult bowler to face ever in Indian conditions current team included and 2004 Bhajji was as good if not better than Ashwin and Jadeja in home conditions. Also Indias other achillies heel is swing bowling and both Zak and Pathan are good with the new ball and even better in SC conditions. The 2004 team has all the bowling to exploit all weaknesses that the current team has that is swing and spin. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 bowling wins u games kumble n bhajji vs jadeja n ashwin can be a clash But current team scores heavily with shami n umesh making it an attack with no breathing space . The best way to keep that batting lineup quite was keep the pressure up which 2004 aussie team did that year Gollum 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Suhaan said: People ,you need to think about toss too If Kohli's team wins toss and bats first they can even give GOAT Aussies run for their money Kohli’s team can be way better competitive than the 2004 team overseas because of our bowling but in SC conditions that team will walk all over the current lot Link to comment
gattaca Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Ganguly team is single dimension dependent on conditions. Kohli’s team is multi dimensional team and are taking pitch out of equation. Kohli learnt his lesson after loosing to Australia in Pune test. He started challenging his pacers to do more. I haven’t seen a true spinning track after that series. Link to comment
maniac Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Also the most important aspect is the fielding especially slip catching. The fab 5 can hurt you bad if they get additional lives. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, maniac said: Kumble is not a conventional leg spinner. He has run through better line ups than the current Indian line up in home conditions and you think this team will handle Kumble like a piece of cake lol. Kumble is hands down the most difficult bowler to face ever in Indian conditions current team included and 2004 Bhajji was as good if not better than Ashwin and Jadeja in home conditions. those better lineups wasnt use to indian condition like mayank, rohit, pujara, kohli are ....they have been raised on these condition A lot of players did handle those to well- Inzy, younis, hayden, strauss, cook , clarke ....even akmal razzaq partnership aise bhi koi unplayable nhin the . Pujara is a beast in Indian conditions mayank plays spin damn well and uses feet well which was the correct use against kumble n bhajji rohit if set wnt be troubled by those 2 Kohli will score .....he always does Only one left is rahane Quote Also Indias other achillies heel is swing bowling and both Zak and Pathan are good with the new ball and even better in SC conditions. Zak wasnt as good in 2004 as he was post 2007 Shami n umesh are both good with new n old ball add more pace n bouncers Konsa banana swing milne wala hai SG ke saath india men Quote The 2004 team has all the bowling to exploit all weaknesses that the current team has that is swing and spin. yet they were not dominant at home like current team is Aus Won series PAk drew series NZ Drew series ENG drew series in 2006 This team is drubbing opposition....fine the quality of opp has gone down but still we are drubbing them really badly Edited November 20, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Gollum 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, gattaca said: Ganguly team is single dimension dependent on conditions. Kohli’s team is multi dimensional team and are taking pitch out of equation. Kohli learnt his lesson after loosing to Australia in Pune test. He started challenging his pacers to do more. I haven’t seen a true spinning track after that series. There is a huuuuuge difference between the SA and even Aus lineups of 2004 and 2019. The only teams that have improved from 2004 are England and Nzl. Rest all have gone down the drain. So it is not going to be as one sided as one thinks. This team got trashed in England and even SA and lost the games only due to batting. Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On dustbowls Kohli's team has no chance of beating Ganguly's team with Kumble.Sehwag would murder Jadeja and Ashwin for fun. Stan AF and AuxiliA 1 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: those better lineups wasnt use to indian condition like mayank, rohit, pujara, kohli are ....they have been raised on these condition A lot of players did handle those to well- Inzy, younis, hayden, strauss, cook , clarke ....even akmal razzaq partnership aise bhi koi unplayable nhin the . Pujara is a beast in Indian conditions mayank plays spin damn well and uses feet well which was the correct use against kumble n bhajji rohit if set wnt be troubled by those 2 Kohli will score .....he always does Zak wasnt as good in 2004 as he was post 2007 Shami n umesh are both good with new n old ball add more pace n bouncers Konsa banana swing milne wala hai SG ke saath india men yet they were not dominant at home like current team is Aus Won series PAk drew series NZ Drew series ENG drew series in 2006 This team is drubbing opposition....fine the quality of opp has gone down but still we are drubbing them really badly You clearly haven’t watched cricket in the 90s Link to comment
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