'That was my inner ego', Virat Kohli on Team India's semi-final exit from 2019 World Cup

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Spilling the beans on India's semi-final loss, which still hurts Indian fans despite the team's dominant run across formats since then, skipper Kohli told in a recent interaction, "Deep within I believed the team would need me to stand up and deliver in one of the games. I believed that I would come not out, but that was my inner ego". 

[Ankit_sharma03]

See that is the problem he himself makes it so much about himself n 2-3 others that he forgets to build the team . Same prob with RCB.

He will stand up but all it takes is one ball for a batsman , only if he concentrates more on team then him n few others he ll have better result. 

[rtmohanlal]

All that is wrong with his captaincy and he himself has admitted his folly  in the open. No wonder  a ready made   shameless parasite  was appointed as coach just  to boost his ego . Kohli should thank his stars that Aussies'  TOP 2 batsmen were not present & 'Pujara for once  in his entire career became 'Dravid like' in SENA'. Other wise he would even not  be talking  in these lines as of now .

[Cricwala]

Kohli says all these nice sounding things, he waxes on about how his wife has been his inspiration, grounded him etc...but it all seems hollow talk, like he's trying to live up to this image he wants to build.

 

His real-life actions, behavior with team mates, selection choices all reveal a man who lacks empathy for juniors and isn't open to other opinions.

 

But he has learnt the politicians art of saying & doing the right-looking things, like gushing that 'I was not even 10% of Shubman Gill when i was 19'. Yet, Kohli became a regular of our ODI side at 19, and has refused to give Gill more than 2 games since he made his debut in Feb this year, despite our ODI team lacking exciting, fresh middle order batters. Hypocrisy much, Mr. Kohli?

Edited November 26, 2019 by Cricwala

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

49 minutes ago, Cricwala said:

Yet, Kohli became a regular of our ODI side at 19, and has refused to give Gill more than 2 games since he made his debut in Feb this year, despite our ODI team lacking exciting, fresh middle order batters.

That's because they see Gill as a top order batsman. That's where he plays for KKR, Punjab and India 'A' and that's also where Gill prefers playing. They're trying out Iyer and Dube now in the middle order because they're regular middle order bats in domestic cricket.

[rkt.india]

Inner narcissism instead

Edited November 26, 2019 by rkt.india

[Turning_track]

Well, our middle order troubles weren't exactly a secret. It should've been his priority as a skipper to provide stability in that regard instead we saw relentless chopping-changing & confusion. Its useless to cry over spilled milk now, the upcoming targets should be on WINNING ICC silverware. 2 out of these 3 tournaments in the next four years will be held in India & our performances in these tournaments will truly define the legacy of Kohli-the LOI captain.

Edit: Yes we were 5/3 in that match & it is asking a lot from a middle order in a WC SF to finish the job. But someone from the top order need to stand tall & carry on what Gambhir has done in the past. I hope someone just repeats that feat & plays that precious inning for India which we're falling short of.

Edited November 26, 2019 by Turning_track

[Khota]

After lot of introspection I think the game was lost because of lack of thinking and top level decision making. You cannot play 3 wkt kprs in that game. If Jadhav/Raydu were playing India would have won. Not very complicated.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

After lot of introspection I think the game was lost because of lack of thinking and top level decision making. You cannot play 3 wkt kprs in that game. If Jadhav/Raydu were playing India would have won. Not very complicated.

[Khota]

5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

That is why you dont understand a damn thing. Two more specialist bats would have delivered.

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 hours ago, Khota said:

That is why you dont understand a damn thing. Two more specialist bats would have delivered.

DK wasnt a specialist bat ??? the guy came back on piling on runs in domestic . DK gets back on his batting only....his keeping is not much to talk about.

Isnt pant ahead of many youngsters on his batting skills ??

Dhoni record is as good as any ATG batsman

 

when has jadhav made runs in such matches, didnt he play in CT final n flopped

Rayudu has never been abale to play pace n bounce n that day it was jagging around , saala ipl men behrendoff to khela nhin jaa rha tha lockie fergueson khelta wo . 

 

Rohit n kohli cudnt what chance do others have who arent even half a batsman as they are. All it takes is one ball to dismiss a batsman

 

Edited November 26, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[Cricwala]

5 hours ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

That's because they see Gill as a top order batsman. That's where he plays for KKR, Punjab and India 'A' and that's also where Gill prefers playing. They're trying out Iyer and Dube now in the middle order because they're regular middle order bats in domestic cricket.

Sorry, doesn't wash...there have been umpteen examples of talented players initially being fitted anywhere in batting order, and after few years moving to their preferred spot. Gill has played some decent knocks for KKR at 4 & 6 positions too. And that's T20. He could easily slot in at No. 4 in our ODI side,  with Iyer at 5. Our Top 3 could be around for 4-5 years more...so do guys like Gill just sit around till then, while lesser talented batsmen are slotted into 4-6 slots? Dube is an all-rounder - 6/7 is the best position for him. If anything, they should be looking to phase out Dhawan with Shaw, who is a pure opener. 

 

KL is an opener but has been played at every position from 1 to 4. Michael Clarke started test career at 6, as did Ponting, before moving up the order.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Cricwala said:

Sorry, doesn't wash...there have been umpteen examples of talented players initially being fitted anywhere in batting order, and after few years moving to their preferred spot. Gill has played some decent knocks for KKR at 4 & 6 positions too. And that's T20. He could easily slot in at No. 4 in our ODI side,  with Iyer at 5.

that means keeper has to play 6 and u go with only 5 bowling options...inviting disastor 

 

[putrevus]

9 hours ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

Spilling the beans on India's semi-final loss, which still hurts Indian fans despite the team's dominant run across formats since then, skipper Kohli told in a recent interaction, "Deep within I believed the team would need me to stand up and deliver in one of the games. I believed that I would come not out, but that was my inner ego". 

He is right to believe that he would lead that chase as he has done many times and he is accepting he failed.I put that loss on him completely, he needed to take this team over the line.Nobody else mattered.Good to see it is haunting him.

[Cricwala]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

that means keeper has to play 6 and u go with only 5 bowling options...inviting disastor 

 

No, not really 'disaster'...you could ask Iyer to work on his bowling to become a dependable part-timer. Or have Keeper open batting in place of Dhawan, if his loss of form becomes prolonged and starts affecting his ODI cricket too. Point is, high-ceiling guys like Gill need to be in the squad, kept in the mix keeping next WC in mind instead of limited players like Pandey, Jadhav.

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 minutes ago, Cricwala said:

No, not really 'disaster'...you could ask Iyer to work on his bowling to become a dependable part-timer. Or have Keeper open batting in place of Dhawan, if his loss of form becomes prolonged and starts affecting his ODI cricket too. Point is, high-ceiling guys like Gill need to be in the squad, kept in the mix keeping next WC in mind instead of limited players like Pandey, Jadhav.

part timer hardly work now ....with 2 new balls n 4 fielder rule its very tough which is why yuvi stopped bowling after 2011 Wc. U think if it was just about rolling arm over kohli n rohit cudnt do that . 

 

Only root n jadhav are kind of part timer doing well who has some varitaion in bowling.

Telling iyer to bowl is inviting trouble with only 4 fielder outside .

 

Team comes 1st player 2nd....aussie didnt try to fit in mcgill somehow when warne was playing they benched him. 

 

jadhav and gill doesnt even compete for same spot and plays diff role. So jadhav has less competition then gill who competes with top order

[SK_IH]

WC semis is one of my biggest disappointments as an Indian fan. Virat was main reason of the debacle, lol at inner ego. Score some runs when it matters for once instead of this bakchodi.

[Vilander]

4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

DK wasnt a specialist bat ??? the guy came back on piling on runs in domestic . DK gets back on his batting only....his keeping is not much to talk about.

Isnt pant ahead of many youngsters on his batting skills ??

Dhoni record is as good as any ATG batsman

 

when has jadhav made runs in such matches, didnt he play in CT final n flopped

Rayudu has never been abale to play pace n bounce n that day it was jagging around , saala ipl men behrendoff to khela nhin jaa rha tha lockie fergueson khelta wo . 

 

Rohit n kohli cudnt what chance do others have who arent even half a batsman as they are. All it takes is one ball to dismiss a batsman

 

i thought that was reference to someone like Iyer or Gill playing.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Vilander said:

i thought that was reference to someone like Iyer or Gill playing.

no he meant jadhav n rayudu 

TBH even iyer n gill high chance wnt have ....such pressue situation needs experience. This Tm biggest fault was that they didnt give youngster experience in diff situation. Someone like pant,shankar, rahul was made to bat at 4 in Wc with exp of not even 5 games at that slot. Thats where we failed

 

Kohli main main krta reh gaya.....No one batsman will ever win u alone. He himself is a biggest xample when he performed in 2012, 14, 16 wc yet we didnt win. Sachin the greatest batsman didnt win us Wc 2011 final others did. 

Edited November 26, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[Cricwala]

56 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

part timer hardly work now ....with 2 new balls n 4 fielder rule its very tough which is why yuvi stopped bowling after 2011 Wc. U think if it was just about rolling arm over kohli n rohit cudnt do that . 

 

Only root n jadhav are kind of part timer doing well who has some varitaion in bowling.

Telling iyer to bowl is inviting trouble with only 4 fielder outside .

 

Team comes 1st player 2nd....aussie didnt try to fit in mcgill somehow when warne was playing they benched him. 

 

jadhav and gill doesnt even compete for same spot and plays diff role. So jadhav has less competition then gill who competes with top order

Don't want to get into an unnecessary argument here. I said 'keep gill in the mix' - hv him compete with Iyer for No. 4, it's not like Iyer has completely locked down that spot. 

 

If someone thinks Jadhav is a solution to any role whatsoever in this team, then i really don't have much to discuss.