mani sha Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 People might disagree but we are the new old english side let me explain - watching english cricket in the 90s was a certainty of a theme - formula batting , formula bowling and some decent home performances but nothing great and zero icc trophies . our current team has similar vibe - no power players - openers who do not use power play well - lack of quality all rounders - inexplicable formulas and excuses - example we believe in process not results - a toxic captain with more toxic coach . A board which focussed more on ipl than its loi format players we deserve a 3-0 thrashing and hope we have some more diehardpacer, Sgattick10, saik and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, mani sha said: our current team has similar vibe - no power players Pandya is injured Pant is on bench Rahul is showing his power game Link to comment
Arvind32 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Not Really , you got so much talent in this country but Indian system is not think past Dhoni , Yadav or Thakur because that’s but make people like Kohli one of the best . the talent like Shubman Gill , Sarfraz Khan , Ryan Pirag , Avesh Khan been made work like a donkey before even they give up on their own . So problem is your system not players , once you fix that 5-10 Kohli will be knocking the door , also not to mention to hire someone who can identify the talent and speed up to fore . Link to comment
mani sha Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 It’s the approach don’t see any innovative ness in our approach we reach tournament semis and then claim luck was not on our side .. Link to comment
ganeshran Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 we are trying new batsmen, Saini got a place, Rahul and Iyer are looking settled now. Just need to sort out a lower order batsmen, kick out Thakur, If Kohli had performed in the series it would have been better. Kohli is the key to our line up if Rohit isnt' playing. Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, mani sha said: It’s the approach don’t see any innovative ness in our approach we reach tournament semis and then claim luck was not on our side .. To have a different approach you need to have the talent to pull it off. Do we have anyone in system to consistently score 60-70 ball hundreds.This series they played new openers. Some people think talented players are dime a dozen in the country and it is the system which is stopping them. Edited February 11, 2020 by putrevus Link to comment
Mariyam Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 No we are not. We had a bad series. Period. We will bounce back. This team with a few tweaks is a world beater. And the talent in the pipeline also comprise of matchwinners. f20143g70 1 Link to comment
Arvind32 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: To have a different approach you need to have the talent to pull it off. Do we have anyone in system to consistently score 60-70 ball hundreds.This series they played new openers. Will someone give the opportunity to talent ? Sarfraz Khan - Shubmann Gill Ryan Pirag Abishek Sharma Jaiswal Avesh Khan Mavi Nagarkoti Many more Will they get an opportunity before they turn 30 ? Or Mr Kohli is great ??? mani sha 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, Arvind32 said: Will someone give the opportunity to talent ? Sarfraz Khan - Shubmann Gill Ryan Pirag Abishek Sharma Jaiswal Avesh Khan Mavi Nagarkoti Many more Will they get an opportunity before they turn 30 ? Or Mr Kohli is great ??? Who said they are talented than the ones currently playing? Other than Thakur and to some extent Jadhav (they both are not in for long term anyways). Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, mani sha said: People might disagree but we are the new old english side let me explain - watching english cricket in the 90s was a certainty of a theme - formula batting , formula bowling and some decent home performances but nothing great and zero icc trophies . our current team has similar vibe - no power players - openers who do not use power play well - lack of quality all rounders - inexplicable formulas and excuses - example we believe in process not results - a toxic captain with more toxic coach . A board which focussed more on ipl than its loi format players we deserve a 3-0 thrashing and hope we have some more dude i thought you were a pak fan what happened ? Link to comment
Arvind32 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, putrevus said: Who said they are talented than the ones currently playing? Other than Thakur and to some extent Jadhav (they both are not in for long term anyways). Do you think any player who is currently playing a more talented than Shubman Gill and Sarfraz Khan , they are once in generation player . They just need a chance to prove themselves . Do you really think that Jadeja an alrounder , Manish Pandey , even Iyer deserve a chance over these young stars .... Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, Arvind32 said: Do you think any player who is currently playing a more talented than Shubman Gill and Sarfraz Khan , they are once in generation player . They just need a chance to prove themselves . Do you really think that Jadeja an alrounder , Manish Pandey , even Iyer deserve a chance over these young stars .... Yes I do, Gill will get his chances in test series just like Shaw did in odis.There are only 11 spots and it needs to be filled with bowlers and allrounders too. Let Sarfraz who has done well for half a season do it for little longer first before we call him once in generation player.Once in a generation players don't get kicked out from their IPL team. Link to comment
mani sha Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Vilander said: dude i thought you were a pak fan what happened ? Bhai I am not a pak fan . Unsure what makes u think so ! for the record though I am a us citizen now so can claim neutrality but bhai dil hain Hindustani Vilander 1 Link to comment
cric_fan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Overreaction. No Sharma, No Dhawan, No Pandya. Bumrah not in form. Just a blip. Link to comment
mani sha Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Arvind32 said: Do you think any player who is currently playing a more talented than Shubman Gill and Sarfraz Khan , they are once in generation player . They just need a chance to prove themselves . Do you really think that Jadeja an alrounder , Manish Pandey , even Iyer deserve a chance over these young stars .... Totally agreed . Iyer though has showed flair and is ok . Link to comment
Arvind32 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, putrevus said: Yes I do, Gill will get his chances in test series just like Shaw did in odis.There are only 11 spots and it needs to be filled with bowlers and allrounders too. Let Sarfraz who has done well for half a season do it for little longer first before we call him once in generation player.Once in a generation players don't get kicked out from their IPL team. He is playing longer than half a season , apparently he was man of the tournament at under 19 level , In terms of kicking out of team , Virat Kohli is allergic to talented people and does not like spot light on someone else. mani sha 1 Link to comment
mani sha Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, cric_fan said: Overreaction. No Sharma, No Dhawan, No Pandya. Bumrah not in form. Just a blip. Sharma dhawan pandya - nothing will change As captain is useless and coach is dufuus Turning_track 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, Arvind32 said: He is playing longer than half a season , apparently he was man of the tournament at under 19 level , In terms of kicking out of team , Virat Kohli is allergic to talented people and does not like spot light on someone else. Who said that he is allergic to talented people.Wow I have seen everything. Link to comment
Nikola Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, cric_fan said: Overreaction. No Sharma, No Dhawan, No Pandya. Bumrah not in form. Just a blip. No Kane (for first 2 odis), Boult, Henry or Lockie Ferguson. Stan AF 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 We have the ingredients to become a champion side in 2 years time. Let us show some patience with these kids, and FFS keep fake ARs and unfit oldies out of the squad. Link to comment
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