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Time to take another look at Vijay Shankar for ODIs


GautiMaan

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Where will you play him? He does not have the game for 6. He can play at 4 or 5 but both Iyer or Rahul are better batsman than him. Infact Pandey is a better batsman than him as well. The only reason why he and Jadhav jumped up the pecking order is because they can bowl a bit but their impact bowling wise is limited so much that Kohli won't even give them the ball unless forced to do so. On the other hand if you play them over KL, Iyer or Pandey you are definitely compromising on the batting without enough tangible benefits on the bowling side.

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He does not have a spot in the middle order.

 

If the plan is to move Rahul back to open the innings, then there is a possibility to try him out at 5 and Pant, Pandya at 6,7.

 

But for now, Virat doesn't seem to consider moving Rahul out of No. 5.. TM can alternate between Shankar and Pandey for a few games, but not sure if Shankar has the game for a No. 6.

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8 minutes ago, RajBan said:

Where will you play him? He does not have the game for 6. He can play at 4 or 5 but both Iyer or Rahul are better batsman than him. Infact Pandey is a better batsman than him as well. The only reason why he and Jadhav jumped up the pecking order is because they can bowl a bit but their impact bowling wise is limited so much that Kohli won't even give them the ball unless forced to do so. On the other hand if you play them over KL, Iyer or Pandey you are definitely compromising on the batting without enough tangible benefits on the bowling side.

He plays at 6 in the India A games and does a decent job.

Manish maybe a better batsman overall but he too doesnt have the extra gear and cant give you any overs either

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4 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

He does not have a spot in the middle order.

 

If the plan is to move Rahul back to open the innings, then there is a possibility to try him out at 5 and Pant, Pandya at 6,7.

 

But for now, Virat doesn't seem to consider moving Rahul out of No. 5.. TM can alternate between Shankar and Pandey for a few games, but Shankar doesn't seem to have the game for a No. 6.

TM discards people too easily Iyer could have easily been no 4 in World Cup but for whatever reason dropped,likewise Shankar didnt exactly fail when he played for India and should have got the nod ahead of Jadhav in this ODI series to see if he can fit into the team at no 6.

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3 minutes ago, GautiMaan said:

TM discards people too easily Iyer could have easily been no 4 in World Cup but for whatever reason dropped,likewise Shankar didnt exactly fail when he played for India and should have got the nod ahead of Jadhav in this ODI series to see if he can fit into the team at no 6.

Agree.. He should be a part of the XV.. Chuck out Jadhav and Dube..  

Shankar should be a back up for 4/5/6 when a spot opens up due to injury or other reasons

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24 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

What exactly has he done to comeback to the team? He can bat only at 4/5, is not a hitter, is a lethargic fielder. Offers nothing. As bad as Jadeja has been in LOIs, better to move him up the order and play a specialist bowler. Will do better than Shankar.

What did he do wrong to be dropped?

Did decently with the bat,contributed with the ball against Pak in a WC.

TM is not playing a dynamic batsman like Pant/Samad/Sarfaraz at 6,they prefer a solid bat like Pandey/Jadhav who on their best day can score a 50(42) type knock,this Shankar can also match if not surpass while also giving you an option with the ball.

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2 hours ago, GautiMaan said:

He plays at 6 in the India A games and does a decent job.

Manish maybe a better batsman overall but he too doesnt have the extra gear and cant give you any overs either

Playing India A at 6 is slightly different when playing for India at 6 when you have well established top 5 - yes Iyer has cemented his position at 4 and no reason to move KL from 5. Shankar in most cases won't get more than 20 -25 balls and it will be expected he consistently scores 30-35 . Problem is he does not look to be that guy. And his bowling is nothing to talk about unless the ball is doing a bit.

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7 hours ago, bowl_out said:

Guess that was in T20s in Nidahas trophy.. He's done better in ODIs.. 

not just in Nidhas, he struggled when chasing too (almost every time) in IPL :lol: .... there is a pattern (ppl who have seen it would know what is being referred to) 

 

If he is batting higher in ODIs, he may get more time to settle down and control/ease his nerves, but in crunch situations, he could falter if he has not worked on it 

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2 hours ago, zen said:

not just in Nidhas, he struggled when chasing too (almost every time) in IPL :lol: .... there is a pattern (ppl who have seen it would know what is being referred to) 

 

If he is batting higher in ODIs, he may get more time to settle down and control/ease his nerves, but in crunch situations, he could falter if he has not worked on it 

IPL again is T20.. he should be considered only for ODI

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