GautiMaan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 In the few games he played he looked decent enough with the bat,can easily do the job that Manish/kedhar are doing.He can give you 4-5 overs as well. Not sure why our selectors gave Jadhav another go over this guy. Soorma_Bhopali 1 Link to comment
zen Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 His big issue is that he freezes when chasing in high pressure situations .... don’t know if he has worked on this aspect of his game Soorma_Bhopali 1 Link to comment
RajBan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Where will you play him? He does not have the game for 6. He can play at 4 or 5 but both Iyer or Rahul are better batsman than him. Infact Pandey is a better batsman than him as well. The only reason why he and Jadhav jumped up the pecking order is because they can bowl a bit but their impact bowling wise is limited so much that Kohli won't even give them the ball unless forced to do so. On the other hand if you play them over KL, Iyer or Pandey you are definitely compromising on the batting without enough tangible benefits on the bowling side. Link to comment
bowl_out Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) He does not have a spot in the middle order. If the plan is to move Rahul back to open the innings, then there is a possibility to try him out at 5 and Pant, Pandya at 6,7. But for now, Virat doesn't seem to consider moving Rahul out of No. 5.. TM can alternate between Shankar and Pandey for a few games, but not sure if Shankar has the game for a No. 6. Edited February 12, 2020 by bowl_out Link to comment
bowl_out Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, zen said: His big issue is that he freezes when chasing in high pressure situations .... don’t know if he has worked on this aspect of his game Guess that was in T20s in Nidahas trophy.. He's done better in ODIs.. Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, RajBan said: Where will you play him? He does not have the game for 6. He can play at 4 or 5 but both Iyer or Rahul are better batsman than him. Infact Pandey is a better batsman than him as well. The only reason why he and Jadhav jumped up the pecking order is because they can bowl a bit but their impact bowling wise is limited so much that Kohli won't even give them the ball unless forced to do so. On the other hand if you play them over KL, Iyer or Pandey you are definitely compromising on the batting without enough tangible benefits on the bowling side. He plays at 6 in the India A games and does a decent job. Manish maybe a better batsman overall but he too doesnt have the extra gear and cant give you any overs either Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, bowl_out said: He does not have a spot in the middle order. If the plan is to move Rahul back to open the innings, then there is a possibility to try him out at 5 and Pant, Pandya at 6,7. But for now, Virat doesn't seem to consider moving Rahul out of No. 5.. TM can alternate between Shankar and Pandey for a few games, but Shankar doesn't seem to have the game for a No. 6. TM discards people too easily Iyer could have easily been no 4 in World Cup but for whatever reason dropped,likewise Shankar didnt exactly fail when he played for India and should have got the nod ahead of Jadhav in this ODI series to see if he can fit into the team at no 6. bowl_out 1 Link to comment
bowl_out Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GautiMaan said: TM discards people too easily Iyer could have easily been no 4 in World Cup but for whatever reason dropped,likewise Shankar didnt exactly fail when he played for India and should have got the nod ahead of Jadhav in this ODI series to see if he can fit into the team at no 6. Agree.. He should be a part of the XV.. Chuck out Jadhav and Dube.. Shankar should be a back up for 4/5/6 when a spot opens up due to injury or other reasons Edited February 12, 2020 by bowl_out Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 What exactly has he done to comeback to the team? He can bat only at 4/5, is not a hitter, is a lethargic fielder. Offers nothing. As bad as Jadeja has been in LOIs, better to move him up the order and play a specialist bowler. Will do better than Shankar. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: What exactly has he done to comeback to the team? He can bat only at 4/5, is not a hitter, is a lethargic fielder. Offers nothing. As bad as Jadeja has been in LOIs, better to move him up the order and play a specialist bowler. Will do better than Shankar. What did he do wrong to be dropped? Did decently with the bat,contributed with the ball against Pak in a WC. TM is not playing a dynamic batsman like Pant/Samad/Sarfaraz at 6,they prefer a solid bat like Pandey/Jadhav who on their best day can score a 50(42) type knock,this Shankar can also match if not surpass while also giving you an option with the ball. Link to comment
SUMO Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 No he is not international class just like Doobie diehardpacer, mani sha and Cricspin 2 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I rate him highly but he can only bat at 4,5 and those slots are gone . Slots 6,7 require power hitting which is not his strength or atleast he shows in IPL prasen82 1 Link to comment
RajBan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, GautiMaan said: He plays at 6 in the India A games and does a decent job. Manish maybe a better batsman overall but he too doesnt have the extra gear and cant give you any overs either Playing India A at 6 is slightly different when playing for India at 6 when you have well established top 5 - yes Iyer has cemented his position at 4 and no reason to move KL from 5. Shankar in most cases won't get more than 20 -25 balls and it will be expected he consistently scores 30-35 . Problem is he does not look to be that guy. And his bowling is nothing to talk about unless the ball is doing a bit. Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Not white ball fomats, but Eng test series (away) next year sure. I see him doing well in those conditions, his game anyway is more suited for longer format. Link to comment
zen Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, bowl_out said: Guess that was in T20s in Nidahas trophy.. He's done better in ODIs.. not just in Nidhas, he struggled when chasing too (almost every time) in IPL .... there is a pattern (ppl who have seen it would know what is being referred to) If he is batting higher in ODIs, he may get more time to settle down and control/ease his nerves, but in crunch situations, he could falter if he has not worked on it Edited February 12, 2020 by zen Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Shankar has to work on his bowling if he aspires to come back into Indian team. He at least needs to try and get to Colin deGrandhomme's level if he can't up his pace - accurate and swing. Unless he does that, he will be another Shivam Dube. Na ghar ka na ghat ka. Khota 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 He shouldn't be considered ar all for lois,we have seen enougj of his all round skills in lois ,we are content with it plz Tests maybe there is role for him to play,but that's too near about settled Link to comment
bowl_out Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, zen said: not just in Nidhas, he struggled when chasing too (almost every time) in IPL .... there is a pattern (ppl who have seen it would know what is being referred to) If he is batting higher in ODIs, he may get more time to settle down and control/ease his nerves, but in crunch situations, he could falter if he has not worked on it IPL again is T20.. he should be considered only for ODI Link to comment
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