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45 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

50k? 

Where are you reading this?

 

There are only 3500 beds? Didn't they convert the NSCI into one large quarantine area with ~500 beds?

Ndtv front page: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronavirus-lockdown-migrants-rural-economy-focus-of-nirmala-sitharamans-media-address-today-on-details-of-rs-20-lakh-crore-package-sources-2228717

 

50k cases includes asymptomatic as well. 

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1 hour ago, Clarke said:

This is bleak. https://www.ndtv.com/mumbai-news/coronavirus-news-almost-all-3-500-covid-beds-in-mumbai-taken-hospitals-make-big-change-2228653?pfrom=home-topscroll

And also confusing. Uddhav Thackeray said he wants to local trains to ply again. Why would he say that if the prognosis is this bad?

 

When they say ventilator do they mean that invasive Iron-lung machine exclusively? Isn't the bi-pap also a ventilator? 

 

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^ even if they want to start local trains, it would be having social distancing measures like they're planning for delhi metro with alternate seats occupied & no one standing. Now that would imply 5-10% of actual capacity. How will they decide who gets in on which day, particularly when it comes to livelihood ? 

 

I reckon the definitions are being relaxed for the sake of showing better numbers. They started releasing patients earlier than they used to in the name of recovery. We can only hope that's a sound approach. The same thing might apply to ventilators as well, although a practitioner can comment on effectiveness of one vs the other.

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Maharashtra is looking really bad, epicenter of covid India.

https://twitter.com/ani/status/1260945452427390976?s=21

 

1602 new #COVID19 cases & 44 deaths reported in Maharashtra today, taking the total number of cases to 27,524 & deaths to 1019. Total 6059 patients have been recovered/discharged in the state so far. Number of active cases stands at 20,441 now: Maharashtra Health Department

 

compared to say Karnataka

 

https://twitter.com/dna/status/1260932472390340613?s=21

 

Karnataka update:

28 new cases

Total 987 COVID-19 positive cases have been confirmed in the state, which includes 35 deaths & 460 discharges

 

Karnataka has lesser cases than even Dharavi. This is bad management 

 

Dharavi in Mumbai, Asia's largest slum, has recorded over 1,000 cases after 66 new cases on Wednesday, The COVID-19 tally in Dharavi stands at 1028 while the death toll in the area is 40.

 

Edited by coffee_rules

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Dilli is surprisingly quiet.

 

i drove through some very densely populated neighborhoods. Most of the places are closed, and people are complying with lockdown.

 

I just wish they'd remove the illegal buildings alongside some of the main roads....maybe this happens next

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Delhi is bad too. 

A few days ago I said I knew someone who was infected. There might be others around him who are affected. And government has not even declared area a containment zone! 

Who knows if this guy is even counted in reported case count.

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15 minutes ago, kosingh said:

Delhi is bad too. 

A few days ago I said I knew someone who was infected. There might be others around him who are affected. And government has not even declared area a containment zone! 

Who knows if this guy is even counted in reported case count.

How does he know he is infected? Got tested? If he is tested then he must be in counting. 

Edited by rkt.india

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3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Can’t verify, but if true, this is a sorry state of affairs in Mumbai. Person treated for Typhoid dies, came positive for Corona.

https://twitter.com/Nithyaganesh11/status/1260911010707365888?s=20

 

There have been other similar stories of people running from hospital to hospital but not being able to get admitted. Concerning if true. 

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@ manny and @coffee_rules

 

Yesterday on Rahul Kanwal's show Rajesh Tope ( Minister of Public Health, Maharashtra) was a guest. He made some interesting points of comparison between rates of Corona spread in Delhi, Mumbai and the other metros.

 

He said that density, is a lot higher in Mumbai, and this is what makes the difference stand alone cases and community spread.

In places like Dharavi, where there are communal toilets, it is very difficult to stop spread. He claims his government has set up chemical toilets in some of those areas.

Delhi has more hospital beds/1000 people and more Doctors/1000 people. Delhi also had access to better PPE ( I think Swedish, which was the existing pre lockdown stock) as against Mumbai which got the PPE mainly from China. This resulted in a lot of municipality workers, doctors and police men/women getting infected. And these are supposed to be the front line. Later the asymptomatic carriers among these ended up being vectors for the disease.

 

Ofcourse, he is in the government and is going to make it sound like they've tried their best. But these points make some logical sense. 

 

PS: That story is true. It has made it to the news channels.

It is the 10th (if news channels are to be believed) story of the kind.

A cop also lost his life simply because hospitals refused to admit him. This was a fortnight ago.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/mumbai-cop-who-was-denied-admission-in-4-civic-hospitals-dies-of-covid-19/story-Xg6fqLi4wqXEqquZ0txmzN.html

 

What is the SoP in such cases?

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16 hours ago, Singh bling said:

3935 cases in a day and 82k overall just 900 behind China

China had 82k cases in March. You think they stopped having cases after that? Should not even talk about China.  China has at least a million cases of not more. 

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16 hours ago, Mariyam said:

@ manny and @coffee_rules

 

Yesterday on Rahul Kanwal's show Rajesh Tope ( Minister of Public Health, Maharashtra) was a guest. He made some interesting points of comparison between rates of Corona spread in Delhi, Mumbai and the other metros.

 

He said that density, is a lot higher in Mumbai, and this is what makes the difference stand alone cases and community spread.

In places like Dharavi, where there are communal toilets, it is very difficult to stop spread. He claims his government has set up chemical toilets in some of those areas.

Delhi has more hospital beds/1000 people and more Doctors/1000 people. Delhi also had access to better PPE ( I think Swedish, which was the existing pre lockdown stock) as against Mumbai which got the PPE mainly from China. This resulted in a lot of municipality workers, doctors and police men/women getting infected. And these are supposed to be the front line. Later the asymptomatic carriers among these ended up being vectors for the disease.

 

Ofcourse, he is in the government and is going to make it sound like they've tried their best. But these points make some logical sense. 

 

PS: That story is true. It has made it to the news channels.

It is the 10th (if news channels are to be believed) story of the kind.

A cop also lost his life simply because hospitals refused to admit him. This was a fortnight ago.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/mumbai-cop-who-was-denied-admission-in-4-civic-hospitals-dies-of-covid-19/story-Xg6fqLi4wqXEqquZ0txmzN.html

 

What is the SoP in such cases?

 

Dharavi shouldn't exist. The lockdown should prioritize de-population of areas like dharavi. Mumbai in general should be de-populated, it has too many people. 10 million too many.

 

But the migration issue has given state governments an opportunity to negotiate with the centre, making de-population more difficult. Some might take back the migrants, other non-BJP ruled states probably won't.

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Latest statewide data tests and positives.

All tests are symptom based, national average is 4%

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYHXVecXgAA0aWg?format=jpg&name=large

 

TN has done the max tests and also has big % of positive cases. 300k tested 10k positive, seems like national average.

MH is worse 250k tested 27k positive , nearly 10% 

why are some states like Kar showing such low % 130k tested about 1k positive, less than 1%?

punjab 50k tested, 2k positive (4%)

KeralA tested 42k 500 odd cases
 

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16 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Latest statewide data tests and positives.

All tests are symptom based, national average is 4%

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYHXVecXgAA0aWg?format=jpg&name=large

 

TN has done the max tests and also has big % of positive cases. 300k tested 10k positive, seems like national average.

MH is worse 250k tested 27k positive , nearly 10% 

why are some states like Kar showing such low % 130k tested about 1k positive, less than 1%?

punjab 50k tested, 2k positive (4%)

KeralA tested 42k 500 odd cases
 

Telangana is the worst when it comes to testing. Its as if they have completely given up on the policy of testing and relying on lockdown. Could backfire big time.

More than 50 million population and less than 20,000 tests is inexcusable. Why is the center not holding them responsible for this and why is the media silent ? AP has similar population and right next door and tested, 220,000 people. 

Edited by kubrickian

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Another thing is you have to look at the number of deaths and not the number of cases, in terms of how much it impacts the society. Because 90% of these cases are asymptomatic, in the sense that people dont even know they have it. Even the people who have symptoms will recover mostly and mortality rate in effect is only around 2 or 3 % in most places. So this disease is not as deadly as one may think it is.

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8 hours ago, The Dark Horse said:

TN has extended the.lockdown till 31st, with existing rules in 12 districts and relaxations in 25 districts.

 

last week 4/5 guys working in chennai returned to our native village ( mostly labors/unskilled men i think )  .. whole village is in extreme  panic :lol: 

3 buses ferried people from chennai to mostlt thevur  / bhavani/erode/kpm

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13 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Even Maharashtra does it. They are seeing 10% of positive cases from testing, while national average is 4%

Well done by Modi, leaving it upto the states. This is first good step towards opening up. Kejriwal also appreciates. Now, few states will put unnecessary curbs but the pressure will directly be on them. Kejriwal has hinted that he will open up max upto centre's guidelines meaning aside from containment zones, rest of the Delhi would be green ( I think).

Good job by Modi...be it 20 days late.

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23 minutes ago, kosingh said:

Over 6000 cases in India today and still counting. Huge increase. 

Huuge..lol.

We are still daily 1 death per crore people. I don't think it will go up much. Rather death tally could fizzle out at 10k deaths as the logarithmic chart of fatalities for India is telling 

 

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How do you tackle these kind of idiots ?

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Hostile super-spreader prompts intense testing in Mangammanapalya

 

A COVID-19 patient in Mangammanapalya hid his status with the help of local doctors, prompting municipal and health officials to deploy largescale testing infrastructure to determine the spread of the disease.

 

On May 12, the BBMP discovered that a Mangammanapalya clinic had failed to report a positive case in Madina Nagar. The patient, P911, is believed to have infected several others.

 

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"Riders put mangoes in their helmets. Others called out like hawkers, encouraging everyone to help themselves." I had 15 crates of mangoes here worth about Rs 30,000. They took everything ~ said the vendor

 

https://twitter.com/parthpunter/status/1263826768789598209?s=20

 

When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve ~ The Joker

 

Thank fully vishal dadlani promised to pay him, im sure he wud also

 

https://twitter.com/VishalDadlani/status/1263868121603022852?s=20

 

 

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2 hours ago, The Dark Horse said:

Active is 7917.. mention that also..

I'm not confident of their release strategies. Previously it used to be 3-4 weeks quarantine and then 2 consecutive tests negative. Nowadays it isn't that stringent. It's like vadivelu pushing everyone to get inside the house in vaseegara. They might as well release everyone.

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15 minutes ago, kosingh said:

Delhi situation is worse than government is letting on. 

 

Officially now 30 dead in a day, But lots of chirping that deaths being under reported in Delhi.

It's time to accept  that whatever measures taken by Central and state governments failed badly barring Kerala.

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13 hours ago, Stan AF said:

I'm not confident of their release strategies. Previously it used to be 3-4 weeks quarantine and then 2 consecutive tests negative. Nowadays it isn't that stringent. It's like vadivelu pushing everyone to get inside the house in vaseegara. They might as well release everyone.

Because 2 week are enough according to new studies even if they arent testet negative. 

 

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/coronavirus-covid-19-patients-not-infectious-after-11-say-experts-11590302127527.html

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12 hours ago, velu said:

 

we will get the figures with the lock-down .. i asked about the figures without the lock down 

Either you are not understanding or you don't want to understand. As we are heading towards herd immunity for which we reach a maximum point only after that cases will start declining. Lockdown has certainly delayed reaching that maximum point but irrespective of Lockdown that point will be the same. Most probably we will never know the exact figures as Government will stop testing asymptomatic patients. 

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