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11 minutes ago, YCCC said:

Prevention is not better than cure in this case. Prevention will not make it go away. A cure (whenever that may be) will

Prevention is better cause it will stop multiplying cases like it's happening in china. If all behave normally it will spread so quickly all over world that it will be hard to manage those number of people so better start prevention from now.

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1 minute ago, Nikola said:

Prevention is better cause it will stop multiplying cases like it's happening in china. If all behave normally it will spread so quickly all over world that it will be hard to manage those number of people so better start prevention from now.

Ok but in the long term a cure is much better as it will end all this

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8 minutes ago, YCCC said:

Ok but in the long term a cure is much better as it will end all this

I was talking about people who aren't infected. They should hope not to get infected by being careful instead of thinking when there will be proper solution available to this.

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Unfortunate choice of words by the writer in OP's article:

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Former India batsman VVS Laxman also took to twitter, asking people to come together to deal with this deadly disease

BoseDK they should be doing the opposite, spreading out far and way, marwaye ga kya? :cantstop:

 

 

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9 minutes ago, NameGoesHere said:

How our cricket heroes are combating Corona (suggestions welcome):

 

Virat Kohli :Let's stay strong and fight COVID-19 

 

K Akmal:  I'm not worried, I'm pretty sure I won't catch it. 

 

R Sharma:  I ate COVID.  Khallas. Also I am changing my surname to Shawarma

 

Hardik Pandya: Don't worry, COVID ka already main karke aaya, 19 times.

 

U Akmal: COVID -19 and SARS....scientifically speaking,  mother from another brother

 

Sanjay Manjrekar Imran will save us from COVID-19 (with his hair blowing in the wind, sexy time)

 

Sunny Gavaskar:  In my time we didn't even stop for common testicular cancer (I had 17 surgeries)

 

R Ashwin:  You only need to think it through.  In terms of anagrams COVID-19 becomes VIDCO-19 or even DOVIC 91.  And then it's no longer COVID! 

 

Ravi Shastri: I've just been appointed brand ambassador for COVID-19 (Is that a new brand of VAT -69)?


 

 

Also Saurav Ganguly: During my time as captain there use be this Bird Flu and we used to always play in packed stadiums.

 

 

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11 hours ago, New guy said:

I love how you suddenly love him when earlier you used to dislike when he was given captaincy after dhoni 

I love how you make accusations and can never back it up asusual. 

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5 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

Viruses are inherently very hard to cure. We technically still don't have a cure for the common cold. 

That's what worries me about this one. Apparently the common cold is a coronavirus too

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6 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

Viruses are inherently very hard to cure. We technically still don't have a cure for the common cold. 

we do but the cold virus mutates a lot and each year its just a guessing game on which ones will be more prevalent that year,i believe each Flu vaccine can counteract 4 or 5 strains of the virus but even then they are only effective 50% percent of the time.so far the Corona virus has just 2 strains so it should be easier to develop a vaccine but even that will take over a year.

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On 3/14/2020 at 11:59 AM, YCCC said:

Prevention is not better than cure in this case. Prevention will not make it go away. A cure (whenever that may be) will

 prevention for elderly and swift peak cycle for working population is ideal but how to get there ? 

 

At all times world needs to ensure 70% of population is still productive. 

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On 3/14/2020 at 9:44 PM, YCCC said:

Ok but in the long term a cure is much better as it will end all this

The whole medical establishment is about making money or furthering their agenda that doctors/scientists are gods. They won't find a cure but will treat patients and make this a yearly scare to put fear in the masses. Already they are priming to make this an early event with UK's chief scientific advisor saying so. So be prepared this winter and further winters to come. This maybe made in china like everything today but if at all its intentional, you have to find culprits in US and Europe where the globalists reside.

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4 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

The whole medical establishment is about making money or furthering their agenda that doctors/scientists are gods. They won't find a cure but will treat patients and make this a yearly scare to put fear in the masses. Already they are priming to make this an early event with UK's chief scientific advisor saying so. So be prepared this winter and further winters to come. This maybe made in china like everything today but if at all its intentional, you have to find culprits in US and Europe where the globalists reside.

Kya bakwaas and ignorant post. If it was not for doctors humanity would have been wiped out long ago. So many of the people who have died are doctors, nurses and their families who contracted while these people were working day and night to help patients 

 

And ignorant people babbling about things like not finding cure while sitting on their ass online 

 

If I hate someone its those who deliberately spread anti science agenda online just because they dont understand something. Theee people are as bad as those quacks saying cow urine or namaz will stop coronovirus 

 

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17 hours ago, NameGoesHere said:

How our cricket heroes are combating Corona (suggestions welcome):

 

Virat Kohli :Let's stay strong and fight COVID-19 

 

K Akmal:  I'm not worried, I'm pretty sure I won't catch it. 

 

R Sharma:  I ate COVID.  Khallas. Also I am changing my surname to Shawarma

 

Hardik Pandya: Don't worry, COVID ka already main karke aaya, 19 times.

 

U Akmal: COVID -19 and SARS....scientifically speaking,  mother from another brother

 

Sanjay Manjrekar Imran will save us from COVID-19 (with his hair blowing in the wind, sexy time)

 

Sunny Gavaskar:  In my time we didn't even stop for common testicular cancer (I had 17 surgeries)

 

R Ashwin:  You only need to think it through.  In terms of anagrams COVID-19 becomes VIDCO-19 or even DOVIC 91.  And then it's no longer COVID! 

 

Ravi Shastri: I've just been appointed brand ambassador for COVID-19 (Is that a new brand of VAT -69)?


 

 

Also MSD: To combat COVID-19, we should do as we're doing :phehe:

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17 hours ago, NameGoesHere said:

How our cricket heroes are combating Corona (suggestions welcome):

 

Virat Kohli :Let's stay strong and fight COVID-19 

 

K Akmal:  I'm not worried, I'm pretty sure I won't catch it. 

 

R Sharma:  I ate COVID.  Khallas. Also I am changing my surname to Shawarma

 

Hardik Pandya: Don't worry, COVID ka already main karke aaya, 19 times.

 

U Akmal: COVID -19 and SARS....scientifically speaking,  mother from another brother

 

Sanjay Manjrekar Imran will save us from COVID-19 (with his hair blowing in the wind, sexy time)

 

Sunny Gavaskar:  In my time we didn't even stop for common testicular cancer (I had 17 surgeries)

 

R Ashwin:  You only need to think it through.  In terms of anagrams COVID-19 becomes VIDCO-19 or even DOVIC 91.  And then it's no longer COVID! 

 

Ravi Shastri: I've just been appointed brand ambassador for COVID-19 (Is that a new brand of VAT -69)?


 

 

Rahane: If we tilt our face at an angle of 108.03 degrees left and 78.22 degrees down when someone sneezes, we can dodge the virus

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32 minutes ago, New guy said:

Kya bakwaas and ignorant post. If it was not for doctors humanity would have been wiped out long ago. So many of the people who have died are doctors, nurses and their families who contracted while these people were working day and night to help patients 

 

And ignorant people babbling about things like not finding cure while sitting on their ass online 

 

If I hate someone its those who deliberately spread anti science agenda online just because they dont understand something. Theee people are as bad as those quacks saying cow urine or namaz will stop coronovirus 

 

Dai new guy what you typed is horseshit. Oh no poor innocent doctors saved humanity. you must be dumb as a box of rocks. There are good doctors out there no doubt but the whole modern medicine was invented to treat patients not cure them. Know the difference and you get the idea. Why don't doctors cure the disease instead of treating and managing it. The answer is if everybody is healthy, there is no need for doctors. You wonder why when you go the doctor for something like a fever, he prescribes 3/4 medicines why is that. Why can't it be one medicine. Its because the first medicine which treats the fever causes some other problem like gastrointestinal problems. So another drug for the said complication which will fvck up another part of the body. So a vitamin for that. This is a laymans understanding of modern medicine.

I know its much more than that because I'm not qualified to be a doctor. If push comes to shove, most people will go to the doctor no doubt but for you to treat them as gods on this earth is laughable. Are you a doctor or closely related to one :winky: Like you I dont like quacks who prescribe cow urine or namaz but I wouldn't say if not for doctors, we would be extinct. My grandparents on my dad's side were uneducated and never took any modern medicine. They lived for 90+ years. They lived in a time when there was small pox and other pandemics. Small pox itself is a scarier disease than all the modern flu's put together. If you were living at that time period, you would be running to the doctor paying your whole monthly salary begging for a quickfire solution.

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7 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

The whole medical establishment is about making money or furthering their agenda that doctors/scientists are gods. They won't find a cure but will treat patients and make this a yearly scare to put fear in the masses. Already they are priming to make this an early event with UK's chief scientific advisor saying so. So be prepared this winter and further winters to come. This maybe made in china like everything today but if at all its intentional, you have to find culprits in US and Europe where the globalists reside.

It takes a year to make a vaccine and no not all of them want to make money. Lot of them care deeply. This stuff is serious.

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2 hours ago, Khota said:

It takes a year to make a vaccine and no not all of them want to make money. Lot of them care deeply. This stuff is serious.

A lot of the doctors do care deeply. But they are under pressure of student loans and medical study is expensive. They study these fields to make more money later on. Its not just good intentions but to make money also. So once they are in debt, they are forced in a way to look for money to cover the debt. This could result in medical malpractice. It happens throughout the world and in less regulated countries like India, it can be a wild west scenario. Even in US, pharmaceutical companies own the doctors because of student debt. The media creates fear among the population so much that they take flu shots for allergies, common cold, etc. Fear rules the west and worship rules the east. People respecting them for the doctor profession also boosts their ego when they are regular humans trying to make their living. And they see plenty of deaths in hospitals. They are kind of immune to the pain and suffering in a way because of overexposure.

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On 3/16/2020 at 2:55 PM, Real McCoy said:

Dai new guy what you typed is horseshit. Oh no poor innocent doctors saved humanity. you must be dumb as a box of rocks. There are good doctors out there no doubt but the whole modern medicine was invented to treat patients not cure them. Know the difference and you get the idea. Why don't doctors cure the disease instead of treating and managing it. The answer is if everybody is healthy, there is no need for doctors. You wonder why when you go the doctor for something like a fever, he prescribes 3/4 medicines why is that. Why can't it be one medicine. Its because the first medicine which treats the fever causes some other problem like gastrointestinal problems. So another drug for the said complication which will fvck up another part of the body. So a vitamin for that. This is a laymans understanding of modern medicine.

I know its much more than that because I'm not qualified to be a doctor. If push comes to shove, most people will go to the doctor no doubt but for you to treat them as gods on this earth is laughable. Are you a doctor or closely related to one :winky: Like you I dont like quacks who prescribe cow urine or namaz but I wouldn't say if not for doctors, we would be extinct. My grandparents on my dad's side were uneducated and never took any modern medicine. They lived for 90+ years. They lived in a time when there was small pox and other pandemics. Small pox itself is a scarier disease than all the modern flu's put together. If you were living at that time period, you would be running to the doctor paying your whole monthly salary begging for a quickfire solution.

Doctor's are not Gods but they have studied medicine and know more about diseases than some random doofus spouting pseudo science on the internet. Imagine if this happens in any other field. I am in Data science and analytics and some doofus comes and says, hey your model based on statistics is wrong because my gut instinct tells me otherwise and my uncle totally did this thing and it worked! Imagine any of your the areas you guys work in and then some layman saying they know more than you because they have seen some random person? Also imagine thinking taking personal examples somehow proves your point. That's like me saying that since everyone in my family has blue eyes that means only blue eyes are natural 

 

Small Pox is a good example because it killed millions every year and was one of the deadliest disease humanity faced which could have made our species extinct. No medicine worked on it once you got the symptoms. Thankfully science and medicine figured out a solution when they invented vaccines. And your grandparents survive because they benefited from herd immunity because enough people got vaccinated. No one is a superman to be immune to small pox, no matter how healthy they were.The way the disease attacked our body, our body could never deal with it unless it killed the disease on entry, which would only happen if you already had anti-bodies against it.  Humanity survived because people took the disease seriously and vaccinated which caused enough herd immunity to prevent the disease 

 

If Coronovirus had happened 50 years before it would have wiped out more of humanity than today where a fraction of those numbers will die.

 

You talk about doctors not curing disease when small pox and polio and other many deadly diseases are completely eradicated and we are now having many successful trials of curing AIDS. In deadly diseases like rabies the invention of the rabies serum has prevented thousands of deaths each year. Tetanus vaccines now means we have a fraction of tetanus deaths when once it was very, very common. There are 100s of diseases which can be completely cured if you go to a doctor and 1000s which have been completely eradicated. In other diseases like cancer, heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, people are living way longer and more fruitful life with much lesser pain. People living to the 90s and beyond are way more now than before

 

The biggest danger in any outbreak is when people take it less seriously or go against doctor's advice. During the Spanish flu, doctors had advised against large gatherings but there were couple of areas in Spain who thought doctors didn't know anything and their church leaders gathered people and prayed every single day. The result was that these areas were the most affected with the largest death rates.

 

Our bodies are fascinating. The way they work. They are built to stand most things. But there are some things which are dangerous for us because they are different from the way our body protects against attackers. So they are like kryptonite to superman. And they affect more when we are weak or have existing problems or are old or babies. In those cases it's important to understand how these diseases attack and base our cures on them. Bacteria can be cured by anti-biotics because they have more complex cell structures and are more living beings while viruses are not technically even living beings, so are more simple and therefore more difficult to attack. So in those cases its increasing our immunity which helps

 

We have a tendency to romanticize the past but most of that is because of survivor bias. Because your grandparents were lucky to live long and healthy lives you can brag about them but for the thousands whose grandparents died painful deaths because of small pox, they wont brag on the internet. So we will only see the exception. The truth is that we are living in one of the golden periods of science and medicine. We are healthier, live longer and happier lives on an average than those in the past. And we should be thankful that we live in this age because even 50 years ago, we would have lost half our loved ones to coronavirus 

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1 hour ago, New guy said:

Doctor's are not Gods but they have studied medicine and know more about diseases than some random doofus spouting pseudo science on the internet. Imagine if this happens in any other field. I am in Data science and analytics and some doofus comes and says, hey your model based on statistics is wrong because my gut instinct tells me otherwise and my uncle totally did this thing and it worked! Imagine any of your the areas you guys work in and then some layman saying they know more than you because they have seen some random person? Also imagine thinking taking personal examples somehow proves your point. That's like me saying that since everyone in my family has blue eyes that means only blue eyes are natural 

 

Small Pox is a good example because it killed millions every year and was one of the deadliest disease humanity faced which could have made our species extinct. No medicine worked on it once you got the symptoms. Thankfully science and medicine figured out a solution when they invented vaccines. And your grandparents survive because they benefited from herd immunity because enough people got vaccinated. No one is a superman to be immune to small pox, no matter how healthy they were.The way the disease attacked our body, our body could never deal with it unless it killed the disease on entry, which would only happen if you already had anti-bodies against it.  Humanity survived because people took the disease seriously and vaccinated which caused enough herd immunity to prevent the disease 

 

If Coronovirus had happened 50 years before it would have wiped out more of humanity than today where a fraction of those numbers will die.

 

You talk about doctors not curing disease when small pox and polio and other many deadly diseases are completely eradicated and we are now having many successful trials of curing AIDS. In deadly diseases like rabies the invention of the rabies serum has prevented thousands of deaths each year. Tetanus vaccines now means we have a fraction of tetanus deaths when once it was very, very common. There are 100s of diseases which can be completely cured if you go to a doctor and 1000s which have been completely eradicated. In other diseases like cancer, heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, people are living way longer and more fruitful life with much lesser pain. People living to the 90s and beyond are way more now than before

 

The biggest danger in any outbreak is when people take it less seriously or go against doctor's advice. During the Spanish flu, doctors had advised against large gatherings but there were couple of areas in Spain who thought doctors didn't know anything and their church leaders gathered people and prayed every single day. The result was that these areas were the most affected with the largest death rates.

 

Our bodies are fascinating. The way they work. They are built to stand most things. But there are some things which are dangerous for us because they are different from the way our body protects against attackers. So they are like kryptonite to superman. And they affect more when we are weak or have existing problems or are old or babies. In those cases it's important to understand how these diseases attack and base our cures on them. Bacteria can be cured by anti-biotics because they have more complex cell structures and are more living beings while viruses are not technically even living beings, so are more simple and therefore more difficult to attack. So in those cases its increasing our immunity which helps

 

We have a tendency to romanticize the past but most of that is because of survivor bias. Because your grandparents were lucky to live long and healthy lives you can brag about them but for the thousands whose grandparents died painful deaths because of small pox, they wont brag on the internet. So we will only see the exception. The truth is that we are living in one of the golden periods of science and medicine. We are healthier, live longer and happier lives on an average than those in the past. And we should be thankful that we live in this age because even 50 years ago, we would have lost half our loved ones to coronavirus 

You probably would have never heard of the term "herd immunity" until coronavirus came along :phehe: as you are glued on to every news channel you can find out of fear. Herd is a term used for animals. Do you even think why these media outlets use this term. This is what they think of us. Following popular media, news, movies, songs constitutes herd mentality.

My grandparents lived in a small village with only their relatives. Can't be more than 100 people. Never got vaccinated much less have modern capabilities like TV or electricity. Even if vaccines were available, I'm assuming based on my father side relatives, they would not have taken it because of our rebellious nature and distrust of modern stuff. My mom's side relatives used to make fun of them by calling them country brutes as the mom's side lived in cities. My mom has more disease and went to the doctor quite frequently and consumed a ton of modern medicine and was always sick. Dad never even took a pain killer even if he had a severe headache and rarely visited hospital. I take after my father

I may not know more about the doctor's profession but you don't either. So your point is as reliable as mine. You trust modern medicine and I have my doubts. Did you atleast check out why they treat people instead of curing them. You don't research stuff but come here talking trash about my posts. Go find out the difference between treatment and cure. I dare you. This is your homework :laugh:

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On 3/19/2020 at 2:56 AM, Real McCoy said:

@Cricketphile Care to comment on why you trollvoted a few posts of mine. If you have something different to say, provide a counterpoint than just hitting a button

OK, Since I don't log in often, I apologize for the delay in replying. Before I begin, let me say my response was not personal and only regarding those particular posts/comments. It was also a while back so I may have forgotten the complete context. However, I disagreed with your general argument that the medical establishment and doctors are mostly for making money and that they would want to keep the diseases in order to keep their job security. Your comment on vaccines and other medicines and how it's mostly just paranoia and media sensationalism that keeps it going also made me dislike it. I completely agreed with 'New Guy's" points in this context where he pointed out how ur posts bordered on pseudoscience and is very similar to an anti vax lobby would say. Your anecdote about your gradparents living well past old age and how villages have it all rosy does not hold up to what we know on vaccines. There may be a few cases/anecdotes that you mentioned but there's no question that the overwhelming envidence points to how the medical world and doctors have made our lives better and have eradicated many diseases, which could have easily wiped out humankind (something that 'New Guy' pointed out as well). I wanted to dislike your posts in that context, but I couldn't find an option to do it (I'm fairly new here so I concede that I may not completely know how it works). The troll option, although was not completely what I wanted to do, was the closest I could to showing a thumbs down. Also I don't think it's necessary to comment/reply to every single post I dislike/like. I believe that's why these buttons exist in the first place (atleast that's my interpretation of the system here).

Cheers and stay safe

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8 hours ago, Cricketphile said:

OK, Since I don't log in often, I apologize for the delay in replying. Before I begin, let me say my response was not personal and only regarding those particular posts/comments. It was also a while back so I may have forgotten the complete context. However, I disagreed with your general argument that the medical establishment and doctors are mostly for making money and that they would want to keep the diseases in order to keep their job security. Your comment on vaccines and other medicines and how it's mostly just paranoia and media sensationalism that keeps it going also made me dislike it. I completely agreed with 'New Guy's" points in this context where he pointed out how ur posts bordered on pseudoscience and is very similar to an anti vax lobby would say. Your anecdote about your gradparents living well past old age and how villages have it all rosy does not hold up to what we know on vaccines. There may be a few cases/anecdotes that you mentioned but there's no question that the overwhelming envidence points to how the medical world and doctors have made our lives better and have eradicated many diseases, which could have easily wiped out humankind (something that 'New Guy' pointed out as well). I wanted to dislike your posts in that context, but I couldn't find an option to do it (I'm fairly new here so I concede that I may not completely know how it works). The troll option, although was not completely what I wanted to do, was the closest I could to showing a thumbs down. Also I don't think it's necessary to comment/reply to every single post I dislike/like. I believe that's why these buttons exist in the first place (atleast that's my interpretation of the system here).

Cheers and stay safe

Lot of Drs are working day and night to keep people safe.Vaccine is atleast 12 to 18 months away.

 

For the time being as I mentioned before R0 of this virus is >2 and maybe 4. This needs to come down to <1 for this to die out. 3 week curfew is the right thing.

 

Everyone stay safe.

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8 hours ago, raki05 said:

Not Sure if this chewt has contributed a single penny....meanwhile yum yus dhooni has contributed a grand total of 1 lakh from his 800 crores coffer to support Poor people for 14 days 

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Fraud "GOD OF CRICKET" what did he do... All these years Bharat Ratna my ass!!

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