zen Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Overall vs. major teams First half Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date less than or equal to 1 Jan 2002 Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 unfiltered 1989-2013 200 329 33 15921 248* 53.78 51 68 14 Profile filtered 1989-2001 81 131 13 6737 217 57.09 25 27 6 2nd half Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2002 Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1989-2013 200 329 33 15921 248* 53.78 29437+ 54.04* 51 68 14 2058+ 69 Profile filtered 2002-2013 103 175 15 7446 241* 46.53 14157 52.59 18 38 7 955 30 First half -> Avg 57. A 100 every 5 innings or so .... One of the best batsmen ever. Attacking batsman .... Played some memorable innings like in Aus, SA, vs. Pak, and so on 2nd half -> Avg of 47. A drop of 10! A 100 every 10 innings or so .... Also became a bit Dravidisque. That 194* in Pak where he went into a shell as he approached his 200, the 241 in Aus where he cut down on some shots .... Dravid, Sehwag, and Laxman had better averages in the 2002-2013 period. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I evaluate Sachin's career like this, ie: by the time other greats of the game are about to turn 20 they would have polished their talents in domestic and then enter national team and then make a glorious ATG career. Sachin due to his phenomenal talent, entered the national team by 16 y 212 d itself and polished his talent in national team and by the time he was about to make 20, started making a phenomenal career that outweighed that of every other ATG so convincingly as seen below. https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=1;spanmax1=20+feb+2011;spanmin1=02+jan+1993;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting 13607 runs @59.41 with 47 100s, home avg: 57.33, abr: avg: 61.48 & lowest avg: in any country 44.66 abr: 100s:25 the above stats still is convincingly better to that of every other ATG. Nikola, Stan AF and Unstable Joe 1 2 Link to comment
zen Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 Talking about Indian batting in the 2002-2013 period View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 2002 and 1 Jan 2014 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 7 of 7 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s R Dravid 2002-2012 100 179 21 8270 270 52.34 19235 42.99 24 36 4 1033 14 V Sehwag 2002-2013 92 163 4 7916 319 49.78 9557 82.82 22 27 16 1118 87 VVS Laxman 2002-2012 99 169 30 6800 200* 48.92 14065 48.34 14 45 10 847 3 SR Tendulkar 2002-2013 103 175 15 7446 241* 46.53 14157 52.59 18 38 7 955 30 SC Ganguly 2002-2008 54 91 8 3459 239 41.67 6249 55.35 6 18 7 414 24 G Gambhir 2004-2012 48 87 3 3496 206 41.61 7115 49.13 7 19 5 432 7 MS Dhoni 2005-2013 78 123 13 4149 224 37.71 6996 59.30 6 26 8 449 68 That is almost an Ind AT batting apart from a few slots .... Veeru was amazing not only with his avg (w/ just 4 not outs) in relation to the SR (avg of 50 at a SR of 83) but also 100s per inning (relative to others) .... scored 6 200s as well in this period Link to comment
Sooda Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Interesting; I dare say SRT's critics are usually younger viewers who were spoilt a bit by Indias batting riches in the noughties and who did not see him at his 90's peak. Link to comment
maniac Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Should have retired after Aus in 2012 in tests. Tbh should have retired after the WC win completely but he was in such red hot form in the wc that it made sense for him to play the next 2 tough overseas series but that should have been it. in 2010-2011 after the Sa series and the wc no one would even dispute Sachin as the greatest of all time but unfortunately he left gaps in his stats due to post 2011. Link to comment
zen Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) In the 90s, I rated Sachin as the best among his contemporaries (and also due to emotional attachment). As time progressed, Tendulkar's cricket changed and I also became relatively more "neutral" when it comes to rating/valuing players. I rate him as one of the best now. Edited April 9, 2020 by zen Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 8 hours ago, maniac said: Should have retired after Aus in 2012 in tests. Tbh should have retired after the WC win completely but he was in such red hot form in the wc that it made sense for him to play the next 2 tough overseas series but that should have been it. in 2010-2011 after the Sa series and the wc no one would even dispute Sachin as the greatest of all time but unfortunately he left gaps in his stats due to post 2011. then just take it as a context of longevity. Take Kohli's alarming fall of average in NZL from 71.33 to 36( reduced by 50%) in a single series as a testimony . Kohli couldn't maintain his average even in his age of 31.That is how difficult it is to maintain averages.Sachin degraded only after 38 years due to slowing reflexes courtesy aging. That is what longevity can do to a batsman's career in general. Stan AF 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Sachin's career is divided in 2 parts: When he had the age he didn't have the team. When he had the team he didn't have the age. Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, Stan AF said: Sachin's career is divided in 2 parts: When he had the age he didn't have the team. When he had the team he didn't have the age. His Test career can be divided into 6 parts. The "rookie" phase from 1989-1993 The prime years from 1994 - 1999 (pre-back injury) The plateau phase of 1999 (post-back injury) - 2002 The initial decline and the injury-ridden phase of 2003-2006 The renaissance of 2007 - 2011 The terminal decline from 2011- 2013 I will do a write-up on this some day . AuxiliA, sorak and Stan AF 1 1 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I consider this 65 & the 76 from the 1st innings to have some of the finest shots played against the classiest fast + spin bowling. Link to comment
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