Harsh Thakor Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) I am pitting all-time One Day international Asian World XI v All-time One day rest of the World XI ODI Asian XI Tendulkar Rohit Sharma Zaheer Abbas Virat Kohli Javed Miandad Mahendra Dhoni (W) Kapil Dev Imran Khan (C) Wasim Akram Waqar Younus Murlitharan ODI World XI Gilchrist (W) Gayle Viv Richards (C) Brian Lara Jacques Kallis A B Devilliers Ian Botham Shane Warne Richard Hadlee Joel Garner Glen Mcgrath Strangely I would back the Asian XI to pip the World XI in ODI cricket.Asian team has a more skilled bowling attack in Wasim,Waqar,Imran ,Murli and Kapil.Mcgrath ,Hadlee and Garner were more accurate but not as penetrative.In Imran and Kapil Asian XI has 2 of the best allrounders .World Xi has slightly more destructive batting with the llikes of Viv,Gilly,Gale or Devillers but the Asian XI has more technical skill in batting with Tendulkar,Zaheer ,Miandad and Kohli.World XI has the best ODI batsmen of all in Viv while Asian XI has the best ODI bowler of all in Wasim and the best ODI allrounder of al in Kapil Dev.The improvistaion of Asian batsmen would compensate for the brute power of the World XI batsmen. World XI has more match-winners but Asian XI is more balanced.Asian X. Edited June 12, 2020 by Harsh Thakor Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 ABDV at 6 what a waste Botham numbers arent great Sorry these teams arent good Link to comment
raki05 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Harsh Thakor said: I am pitting all-time One Day international Asian World XI v All-time One day rest of the World XI ODI Asian XI Tendulkar Rohit Sharma Zaheer Abbas Virat Kohli Javed Miandad Mahendra Dhoni (W) Kapil Dev Imran Khan (C) Wasim Akram Waqar Younus Murlitharan ODI World XI Gilchrist (W) Gayle Viv Richards (C) Brian Lara Jacques Kallis A B Devilliers Ian Botham Shane Warne Richard Hadlee Joel Garner Glen Mcgrath Strangely I would back the Asian XI to pip the World XI in ODI cricket.Asian team has a more skilled bowling attack in Wasim,Waqar,Imran ,Murli and Kapil.Mcgrath ,Hadlee and Garner were more accurate but not as penetrative.In Imran and Kapil Asian XI has 2 of the best allrounders .World Xi has slightly more destructive batting with the llikes of Viv,Gilly,Gale or Devillers but the Asian XI has more technical skill in batting with Tendulkar,Zaheer ,Miandad and Kohli.World XI has the best ODI batsmen of all in Viv while Asian XI has the best ODI bowler of all in Wasim and the best ODI allrounder of al in Kapil Dev.The improvistaion of Asian batsmen would compensate for the brute power of the World XI batsmen. World XI has more match-winners but Asian XI is more balanced.Asian X. Where is Yuvraj.... how come miadad or Abbas is better than him. Yuvraj has won wc for us what did miadad or Abbas did. Can they create yuvi impact in odi. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) Here is mine Asia XI for Asian conditions Sachin Jayasuria Kohli Yuvi Dhoni (Capt) Imran Kapil Afridi/rashid khan Wasim Malinga Murali Extra- Sanga, Rohit, Razzaq, Waqar, shakib Spin of Murali, Afridi/rashid, Sanath, Yuvi, sachin Reverse swing of malinga, wasim, Imran, kapil Batting depth till 8,9 Good fielders- Sanath, yuvi, kohli, Murali, kapil, dhoni Why malinga over waqar- coz of unique action, its all about creating doubts n deceptions Here is mine Asia XI for Overseas conditions Sachin Rohit Kohli Sanga Yuvi Dhoni (Capt) Kapil Imran Wasim Murali Malinga World XI Gilly Richards Ponting (Capt) ABDV Hussey Symonds Klusner Warne Mcgrath Bond Starc Extra- Garner, Lara, Watson, Vettori , KP, Lee I have kept VIV as opener, even though i knew he batted at 3,4 but his batting style wud have been terrific as an opener Result In asia- Asia XI wins , but it wud be touch n go Overseas- They win Rest of World have an edge Edited June 13, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Harsh Thakor Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Here is mine Asia XI for Asian conditions Sachin Jayasuria Kohli Yuvi Dhoni (Capt) Imran Kapil Afridi/rashid khan Wasim Malinga Murali Extra- Sanga, Rohit, Razzaq, Waqar, shakib Spin of Murali, Afridi/rashid, Sanath, Yuvi, sachin Reverse swing of malinga, wasim, Imran, kapil Batting depth till 8,9 Good fielders- Sanath, yuvi, kohli, Murali, kapil, dhoni Why malinga over waqar- coz of unique action, its all about creating doubts n deceptions Here is mine Asia XI for Overseas conditions Sachin Rohit Kohli Sanga Yuvi Dhoni (Capt) Kapil Imran Wasim Murali Malinga World XI Gilly Richards Ponting (Capt) ABDV Hussey Symonds Klusner Warne Mcgrath Bond Starc Joel garner I have kept VIV as opener, even though i knew he batted at 3,4 but his batting style wud have been terrific as an opener Result In asia- Asia XI wins , but it wud be touch n go Overseas- They win Rest of World have an edge Great teams.appreciate .However is not Asian team more balanced with such a great bowling attack,best all-rounders and technically sounder batsmen?True World team has more explosive batsmen and match-winners.Kohli could make a crucial difference and so could Wasim,Kapil and Sachin. Link to comment
Harsh Thakor Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, raki05 said: Where is Yuvraj.... how come miadad or Abbas is better than him. Yuvraj has won wc for us what did miadad or Abbas did. Can they create yuvi impact in odi. Please see the record of Zaheer and Javed which speaks for itself.Both masters in improvisation. and finding the gap.Both close to Viv in their heyday.Zaheer averaging 47.62 and Javed around 41 speaks for itself.Zaheer would have murdered bowling in era of Yuvraj if you asess his domination against the likes of Lillee in ODI cricket in Australia or even Richard Hadlee.Javed was master in a run chase and in a crisis and ever consistent in world cups. Link to comment
raki05 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 What is abbas avg outside Asia. Moreover how come miadad the midget can play at 5 ahead of Yuvraj....btw look at Yuvraj inning in loi 6 ball 6s . Hundred against aus in Sydney, multiple hundred against eng ,90 in NZ his inning in wc, debut performance in ct his Performance in wc 11, man of the series in wcxi, most valuable player in t20 07 wc, show me any such inning by these 2 Pakistani asian bowling bullies .I don't remember anyone hyping them in odi as you. At no. 5 no one can take yuvi position not even sachin forget about these pakisani htb who feasted on umpiring support and Indian and al bowlers. Link to comment
raki05 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 And Yuvraj left arm slow bowling was also very handful, he was 3nd or 3rd highest wkt taker in wc 11 and best fielder in Asia at one point of time. Miadad and abbas can never play ahead of Yuvi. Yuvi own no 5 postion in any odi xi. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
kohli Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Asia xi sachin rohit kohli sanga inzy dhoni kapil wasim akhtar/waqar murli saqlain World xi gilly abd ponting viv lara bevan klusner warne lee garner/ bond mcgrath in Asia any team can win, in outside Asia rest of world xi have edge. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Harsh Thakor said: Great teams.appreciate .However is not Asian team more balanced with such a great bowling attack,best all-rounders and technically sounder batsmen?True World team has more explosive batsmen and match-winners.Kohli could make a crucial difference and so could Wasim,Kapil and Sachin. Klusner was one of best all rounder in ODI Botham batting avg 23 Klusner- 41 Massive diff bowling avg Klusner- 29 Botham - 28 Why do u need technically correct batsman in ODI ??? ABDV , hussey , ponting were pretty technically sound. But when it comes to 6, 7 position u need impact players and symo as a impact player who can bowl and was a terrific fielder About Asian team- miandad n abbas well modern batsman are much better in LOI cricket so i ignored them as comapre to yuvi who was a great fielder, at his peak one of the best ODI batsman i have seen , pressure player and can bowl to Edited June 12, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
zen Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Zaheer Abbas’s record like that of many Pakistani players is inflated by playing against India in Pakistan. In one series, if I am not wrong, Abbas hit 3 ODI 100s vs Ind, improving his record. raki05 1 Link to comment
zen Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Asian 11 (Retired or almost retired players) Jayasuriya Tendulkar Sangakkara Miandad Yuvi Dhoni Imran Kapil Wasim Waqar Murali ROW 11 (Retired or almost retired players) Gilly Lara Ponting Richards ABDV Bevan Klusener Hadlee Warne Bond Garner Link to comment
Harsh Thakor Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, zen said: Asian 11 (Retired or almost retired players) Jayasuriya Tendulkar Sangakkara Miandad Yuvi Dhoni Imran Kapil Wasim Waqar Murali ROW 11 (Retired or almost retired players) Gilly Lara Ponting Richards ABDV Bevan Klusener Hadlee Warne Bond Garner Who will win? Link to comment
Sooda Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) If you choose the right ROW XI, in non subcon conditions, the SubCon guys will be overpowered and outpaced... Sachin Tendulkar, Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, Kumar Sangakarra, Yuvraj Singh, MS Dhoni, Kapil Dev, Wasim Akram, Muralitharan, Lasith Malinga, Waqar Younis vs David Warner, Jason Roy, Ricky Ponting, Viv Richards, AB De Villiers, Joss Buttler, Shaun Pollock, Brett Lee, Shane Warne, Mitchell Starc, Glenn McGrath Edited June 12, 2020 by Sooda Link to comment
zen Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Harsh Thakor said: Who will win? ROW has an edge as they have a lot of world 11 level players players. Asia has Miandad, Yuvi, etc., who are national AT11 level players, not necessarily good enough to get into a first or even second World 11. Link to comment
maniac Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) If you do a tests asia X1 vs world X1 it may be more competitive but in ODIs the Asia X1 is going to eat the ROW X1 alive. You can’t go back in time so you would assume these players would perform adapting to modern rules and conditions. for example would you pick a guy like Ross Taylor or Brian Lara in the modern context of the T20 era? I would pick Taylor because I think he is more adept at the modern game and play both kinds of innings. Would you pick a big name like Botham over say someone like Stokes or even Flintoff or Russell? Similarly do you think Imran Khan will be more useful than say Pandya or even a guy like Afridi and Razzaq in the modern odi game? Especially when you have Wasim,Waqar,Murali etc in a fantasy scenario, why would you need him? I think in these fantasy X1s we pick big names for the sake of it and on paper it looks glamorous but not always practical. I would pick Rohit and Warner over Jayasuriya and Sehwag in the modern game. Sure there are some names who didn’t play in the modern era you wouldn’t think would be successful based on their style like Kapil, Viv etc. Despite being modern ATGs, I don’t think Kallis or Sanga deserve to be in the all time X1 odi sides. Tests sure they will be in there somewhere Edited June 12, 2020 by maniac Link to comment
maniac Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Here is my Odi X1 based on players who can fit in the modern era odis Asia Rohit Sachin Virat Inzamam Yuvraj Dhoni Kapil Wasim Waqar Rashid Khan Murali ROW Gilchrist Warner Viv Richards Ponting AB Stokes C.Cairns D.Vettori S.Warne G.Mcgrath M.Starc Link to comment
zen Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, maniac said: I would pick Rohit and Warner over Jayasuriya and Sehwag in the modern game. Rohit plays outdated cricket, while Jayasuriya and Sehwag had class leading SRs in their time. Also ATG players are called that because they can be great irrespective of the period. Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) All time Asia XI won't beat all time Aussie XI, will have a torrid time against all time WI XI. Forget World XI.....it will be a brutal massacre, 9-1, 8-2 or worst case 7-3 in favor of World XI (half of World XI's victories will be by massive margins while Asians will have to fight tooth and nail to scrape through for their wins) provided the correct teams are picked and all possible anti-cheating measures are in place. There is a reason Aus alone has more WCs than Asia. Then you add ATG WI and this monster Eng side. And how many deep runs have NZ/RSA made in WCs. Edited June 13, 2020 by Gollum Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) Top order, middle order, explosiveness, keeper, spinner, pace battery, fielding, running between wickets, fitness, mental toughness, ruthlessness....World XI is comfortably ahead in each of these departments, if this were a boxing clash ref would stop the match in 2nd round. Really who would want to witness such a mismatch? Simply put, for Asia to win it would require the absolute best performance by its players and hoping that World XI has an off day say firing at 70-80%, still it would be close as World XI players (esp Aussies and WI players) are fierce fighters. Any other scenario and Asia will lose, only matter of interest is the margin. Peak World XI vs subpar Asia XI-> World XI would win by 120+ runs or with 15+ overs to spare, they would put their boots on opponent's neck and never let go, running away with the match like we saw in 1999/2003/2007 WC finals. Edited June 13, 2020 by Gollum Link to comment
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