Who among England and India would be more Dominating in next Decade?

[Ankit_sharma03]

If there are 2 teams in world that have depth in quality bench strength its England and India , WI may be 3rd but inconsistency is a huge issue among them. 

Not only both India n England have quality bench strength but there is variety of skills among the players across format as well. I doubt that they ll dominate world cricket like Wi or Aus has coz the bowling might not still be at that level but surely they ll dominate in next 10 years. 

 

Among other teams 

Aus- dont see a the volume of quality players coming up

SA, SL, - looks quite bad

Pakistan- they ll always produce talent but they have many other problems

NZ- not sure about them 

 

Who ever utilise their resources to the fullest will dominate more. 

 

But for sake of Predictions whom do you think will dominate more among the two teams ?

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Who ever utilise their resources to the fullest will dominate more. 

A lot wud depend on the Think tank as they have to utilize the resources . 

• Captaincy - Root for england in test and kohli for India in LOI havent done that to a full extent specially kohli.
• India looks to be struggling on Head coach front as well whereas England's selection committee, coach, Director have done wonders in taking the team to next level. 
• IPL is an advantage to Indian cricket, which also hasnt been fully utilized 

[Gollum]

I think England will go on rampage in future ICC tournaments now that the monkey is off their back. No version of Indian team can stop an English white ball side in full flow and it isn't because we lack talent.......so we will lag behind in shorter formats. 

 

I am still hopeful that we will do better in tests. Maybe this Aussie bunch will be top of the rankings for next 2 years and then India will take over for rest of the decade. Though I expect our home dominance to reach legendary status, we must target 50-1 by end of next home cycle . We will win at least one series each in RSA, Eng, Aus and NZ this decade. Don't ask me how I arrived at this prediction, just a gut instinct. 

Edited July 21, 2020 by Gollum

[coffee_rules]

I have lost hope in India doing good in Tests in SENA after losing badly in 2020 0-2 with no fightback.
Forget SEA,

India won a series in NZ last time in 2008-09 (12 years ago).

India won a series in Eng last time in  2007 (13 years ago)

India won a series in Aus first time against a depleted side in 2020

India has never a series in SA, may be the next time they will..

 

India is not a force in shorter form either, Making it to Semis in WC is no BFD. Hope Kohli wins at least one ICC event. For that, we need Rohit in top form. Gun players like KL, Pant, Shreyas to fire up. Bumrah, and some wrist spinners. 

 

 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Which format are you talking about though? T20s will be a merry go round as always. I dont think England will dominate ODIs for much longer.  The gap between them and the other teams will be closed soon I suppose. In tests, I think Australia will be on top for a while and they look like a complete test side. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

33 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Which format are you talking about though? T20s will be a merry go round as always. I dont think England will dominate ODIs for much longer.  The gap between them and the other teams will be closed soon I suppose. In tests, I think Australia will be on top for a while and they look like a complete test side. 

 A good team shud dominate across formats

[Gollum]

One must never write off Australia. People made the mistake in the 80s when they almost reached minnow status. Most competitive people on the planet when it comes to sports, immense pride and dedication, mental/physical toughness and fighting spirit like no other team, not for no reason are they such a mighty sports nation. 

[Stan AF]

England.

 

India doesn't have a chance.

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

After Kolli retires I think India will start to dominate.  Need some good 150kph bowlers in next 2-3 years. 

[Sandeep99]

England has some potential ATGs playing for them and has a great pool of players already coming through. They also prioritize winning over handing contracts to friends. I see them dominating this decade in tests and tournament cricket. Australia & New Zealand will do well as well.

 

India will continue to win home test matches and a plethora of meaningless home limited over matches and fall flat in all the crunch tournament games. We will also lose abroad because we never prepare for those games. IPL will get even more serious and I can see Indian players Pandya dedicating themselves to IPL over international cricket. 

 

Pakistan & West Indies will continue their merry ways of beast or bust mode. South Africa will rejuvenate under de kock but may never reach the heights of 2010-2015. Sri Lanka and Bangladesh will continue their journey of mediocrity.

 

Afghanistan will rise.  I foresee them beating all test playing countries in limited overs and also winning test matches in places like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, West Indies. 

[Sandeep99]

Sadly I never see the so called talent that ICF hypes up translate to international cricket. England's supposedly mediocre players are better than so called gems found from the maidans of Bombay.

[Stan AF]

2 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said:

Sadly I never see the so called talent that ICF hypes up translate to international cricket. England's supposedly mediocre players are better than so called gems found from the maidans of Bombay.

True. The hype machine  (not just in ICF) among our fans is on an other level.  Hardly translates into any match winning players. Last decade was a sober reflection of that.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, Sandeep99 said:

Sadly I never see the so called talent that ICF hypes up translate to international cricket.

Give examples

 

[Stan AF]

Unmukt chand

[Suhaan]

26 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

Unmukt chand

You have gone too far back, expectations (from fans) and preparations from current lot has changed

When i say expectations,now people don't expect much from any random player,things have changed

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

13 hours ago, Gollum said:

One must never write off Australia. People made the mistake in the 80s when they almost reached minnow status. Most competitive people on the planet when it comes to sports, immense pride and dedication, mental/physical toughness and fighting spirit like no other team, not for no reason are they such a mighty sports nation. 

I dont the know names that wud be mainstay in net 10 years , the 2 i can think are manus and jhye 

But yea if they can make a leggie best batsman in world and a youngsters avg 30 in domestic as one of the mainstay in last 1 year they can be at top. But just that i dont knw what new talent is coming , with england and india i can name many 

[Ankit_sharma03]

If India has to dominate we need

• Different format captain
• team director
• better coaching staff
• Different set of players for diff format. Give importance to IPL for t20 and A games n ranji for red ball 
• Have aggressive and out of box ideas
• Selectors who understands modern cricket and eye for right talent

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, Stan AF said:

Unmukt chand

he had talent but if he cant take it to next level his problem, talent can be spotted but attitude , hunger and approach cant be by fans. 

[maniac]

England.

 

They seem to have a lot more professional set up and an actual mission and a template to implement it to be the best in all formats.

 

India from a business standpoint I have all the confidence as we do have some really shrewd and intelligent folk running admin and business side of things, however from a cricketing stand point- Selectors,Team management,NCA etc we seem to be lagging behind.

[Nikhil_cric]

17 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 A good team shud dominate across formats

There will be less and less players crossing format. The workloads and the intensity required is already a bit excessive. We will see more specialists for each format and, therefore, very different teams across formats.