maniac Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Smith Williamson Kohli Root I think Root is the biggest mental midget relatively speaking among all with Kohli being a distant 2nd. sandeep and Turning_track 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 @sandeep please move it to cricket talk Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 How to judge it ?? Kohli fails in pressure game in ODI - mentally weak Top performs in t20 WC pressure games- Mentally strong Was highest scorer in CT 2013- strong Played a cruical knock in Wc 2011 - strong Most importantly what he made of his talent n fitness shows more mental courage then anyone Smith kohli both are at top Link to comment
maniac Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: How to judge it ?? Kohli fails in pressure game in ODI - mentally weak Top performs in t20 WC pressure games- Mentally strong Was highest scorer in CT 2013- strong Played a cruical knock in Wc 2011 - strong Most importantly what he made of his talent n fitness shows more mental courage then anyone Smith kohli both are at top What about Williamson? He singlehandedly lead his team to a final, the way he handled himself in the final alone earned him brownie points. Smith as a clutch player is in a different league. Thats why I said Root is behind the other 3 but if I had to rank Smith,Williamson,Kohli and Root in that order. This doesn’t mean the other is totally useless, ranking based on the current fab 4 Edited July 24, 2020 by maniac raki05 1 Link to comment
Norman Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Smith Daylight Williamson Daylight some more daylight . . Kohli and Root beetle, Stan AF, sergio04 and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, Norman said: Smith Daylight Williamson Daylight some more daylight . . Kohli and Root Yup. Agree with this. Atleast Smith has company in Warner and his bowlers to take 20 wickets, Williamson is pretty much a lone wolf. Norman, sergio04 and raki05 3 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Like the Original Fab 4 did something special. Even they are chokers at highest level Tendulkar - We all know Ailiaaa's pants used to drop in Finals. Master of Chokers Ganguly - Hasn't done anything special himself Dravid and VVS - 0 Wcs and their contribution in imp matches has been 0 in Odis. Compared to them Virat, Smith and Williamson are miles ahead beetle 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Smith is in a different league, unfair to compare these pretenders with the one true master of this era. KW's mental strength is overrated, Kohli has played some clutch knocks in SENA and is the WT20 KO GOAT. Smith <daylight> Kohli Kane Root Edited July 24, 2020 by Gollum Link to comment
Ajju Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, Rasgulla said: Like the Original Fab 4 did something special. Even they are chokers at highest level Tendulkar - We all know Ailiaaa's pants used to drop in Finals. Master of Chokers Ganguly - Hasn't done anything special himself Dravid and VVS - 0 Wcs and their contribution in imp matches has been 0 in Odis. Compared to them Virat, Smith and Williamson are miles ahead Gilchrist and A Desilva mentally strong players at 1990/2000 era imo Link to comment
Clarke Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Not very well thought out but on few memorable series basis: Tests: Smith (Ashes in Eng, India tour) Odi: Kane (2019 WC) T20: Kohli (generally outstanding including 2016 WC) Link to comment
maniac Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Clarke said: Not very well thought out but on few memorable series basis: Tests: Smith (Ashes in Eng, India tour) Odi: Kane (2019 WC) T20: Kohli (generally outstanding including 2016 WC) Smith also played match winning knocks in WC 2015 semis and finals. A 100 and a 50, and also was the top and sole scorer in the 2019 semis which they lost. Stan AF, Gollum, Clarke and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Doesn't Smith average like over 100 in ODI ICC KOs? A couple of MOMs to add, unpopular opinion but I would take that over Kohli's ODI career. sergio04 and Norman 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, Gollum said: Smith is in a different league, unfair to compare these pretenders with the one true master of this era. KW's mental strength is overrated, Kohli has played some clutch knocks in SENA and is the WT20 KO GOAT. Smith <daylight> Kohli Kane Root Kane Williamson’s composure in the WC final is probably more memorable than England’s win itself. Here is a guy who won man of the series for his captaincy alone. raki05 and Stan AF 1 1 Link to comment
Nikola Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Why is kane so overhyped on icf and social media? he had two great chances to win odi worldcup for his side but failed there. Has pretty avg records in away tests against top nations. Just cause of his good guy image he is overrated. People here keeping him ahead of kohli are fully delusional. Edited July 24, 2020 by Nikola Link to comment
raki05 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Norman said: Smith Daylight Williamson Daylight some more daylight . . Kohli and Root And Kohli is fattu as well..... Remember mocking kesari williams and went like a good boy to the pavilion after a fixer and pokri audienced bullied him in ct final and then danced to their tune as well after getting humiliated in final. Gollum, maniac, Stan AF and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Clarke Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, Nikola said: Why is kane so overhyped on icf and social media? he had two great chances to win odi worldcup for his side but failed there. Has pretty avg records in away tests against top nations. Just cause of his good guy image he is overrated. People here keeping him ahead of kohli are fully delusional. Some of us (including me) may have held Kohli to a higher standard and are frustrated at his trophy cabinet not having WC/CT including his misses in the CT final & WC semifinal. 1 hour ago, maniac said: Smith also played match winning knocks in WC 2015 semis and finals. A 100 and a 50, and also was the top and sole scorer in the 2019 semis which they lost. Your memory's better than mine, I just remember the Aussies as a juggernaut in some of the series like the 2015 WC. maniac 1 Link to comment
Nikola Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Clarke said: Some of us (including me) may have held Kohli to a higher standard and are frustrated at his trophy cabinet not having WC/CT including his misses in the CT final & WC semifinal. So what has kane done better than kohli in all formats? Edited July 24, 2020 by Nikola Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Pujara is mentally stronger than everyone in the big 4 bar Smith. If he had a half decent attacking game against pace he'd probably be our GOAT Test bat. Link to comment
maniac Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nikola said: So what has kane done better than kohli in all formats? Maximized his resources, became an ambassador that his entire country can actually be proud of and not by shenanigans like pandering to opposition but with his demeanor and composure. Kohli has all the resources in the frickin world. Sure as a batsman Kohli is ahead no one even debates that. raki05 1 Link to comment
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