Lil Early to Say but this England side are showing Flashes of the Dominant Australian side

[Ankit_sharma03]

I know its early to say and they are playing at home but there are some parallels i have noticed

 

1. Every batsman will come n attack- In that aussie side every batsman use to come n start attacking not letting opposition have advantage . Even the batsman who cudnt attack like others rotated strike to great extent , the key was the scoreboard shud never stop ticking. This england side is going on same route , every batsman comes n starts playing attacking cricket.
2. Taking 4-5 wkts within 100 runs of opposition- Aussies use to the plan of taking 4-5 wkts till 100 runs to perfection most days which never let the opposition put a big total on board, now england is doing same. They dont have mcgrath or warne but then again Australian also missed their services a lot due to injury n ban but their plan use to be always same....key was bowling attack working as unit which england is also doing. Archer and woods pace has given them a completely diff dimension , they constantly provide them breakthrough and let someone like Rashid make it worse as he also keeps chipping away with wkts. Everyone attacks with the bat and everyone takes wkts with the ball 
3. Many Runaway Match winners
   Aussie had - gilly, hayden, hussey, ponting, symo, warne, mcgrath lee
   Eng has- Roy, bairstrow, butler, stokes, morgan, archer 
   Other may be a lil less but not far away , and with these many match winners a team can win from nowere
4. Bench strength- Even when aussies use to miss their key player the bench strength use to step up and be as good as the ones missing, england bench strength is pushing main player for a position now.

 

Since most players have few years left in front of them this team is set to dominate for a decade atleast 

 

Both teams have one common trait playing attacking cricket 

Edited September 11, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[kohli]

That aus   batting &  bowling was best in world. This English bowling is good not best. Aus , india & nz bowling > eng bowling 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, kohli said:

That aus   batting &  bowling was best in world. This English bowling is good not best. Aus , india & nz bowling > eng bowling 

thats why i said flashes....i knw they dont have mcgrath , warne or ponting kind of player 

man to man their bowling falls short but they are doing the job as a unit 

[cricketfan28]

yes, just flashes, i don't think they will sustain, other teams will figure it out or easily catch up .

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, cricketfan28 said:

yes, just flashes, i don't think they will sustain, other teams will figure it out or easily catch up .

To sustain there wud be 3 key factors

 

1. Captain- Not sure next captain wud be as good as morgan
2. Archer n Wood - they both given them X-factor , if they stay fit for long the side will be at top 
3. Leggie - In middle over Rashid is chipping away with bunch of wkts , im not sure if there are any leggies coming up

 

Rest batting depth, all rounders looks solid for them 

[Gollum]

Eventually they will be rated as the 3rd greatest ODI team of all time behind 1999-2009 Aus and Lloyd's WI. Their best players still have at least 5 years of cricket left and depth is insane. One of the greatest turnarounds in cricket history, from 2015 WC exit to current state, bloody brilliant!!!!

[Gollum]

World #1 for last 24 months, WC win.

 

Since introduction of official rankings (late 2002) only Aus has spent more time at #1. 

Peak rating:

Aus 140

RSA 128

Eng 127

Ind 124

 

Expect Eng to reach 130s in coming years, 140 may be beyond their reach.

Team	Start	End	Total Months	Cumulative Months	Highest Rating
Australia	October 2002	January 2007	52	52	140
South Africa	February 2007	February 2007	1	1	128
Australia	March 2007	February 2008	12	64	130
South Africa	March 2008	May 2008	3	4	127
Australia	June 2008	December 2008	7	71	131
South Africa	January 2009	August 2009	8	12	127
Australia	September 2009	August 2012	35	106	134
England	August 2012	December 2012	5	5	121
India	January 2013	January 2014	12	12	124
Australia	January 2014	August 2014	8	114	117
India	September 2014	September 2014	1	13	113
Australia	October 2014	October 2014	1	115	114
South Africa	October 2014[5]	November 2014	½	13	115
India	November 2014	November 2014	½	14	117
Australia	November 2014	February 2017	26	141	129
South Africa	February 2017	February 2017	1	14	119
Australia	March 2017	March 2017	4 days	141	118
South Africa	March 2017	September 2017	6	20	123
India	24 September 2017	27 September 2017	4 days	14	120
South Africa	28 September 2017	31 September 2017	4 days	20	119
India	1 October 2017	17 October 2017	17 days	15	120
South Africa	18 October 2017	1 February 2018	4	24	120
India	2 February 2018	1 May 2018	3	18	123
England	2 May 2018	24 June 2019	14	19	127
India	25 June 2019	29 June 2019	5 days	18	123
England	30 June 2019	Present	10	29	127

 

The summary of teams that have held the highest rating since 1981 till present by whole month periods, are:

Team	Total Months	Highest Rating
Australia	198	140
West Indies	99	141
South Africa	71	134
England	60	135
India	25	127
Pakistan	3	131
Reference: Historical Rankings updated to 2/03/2019

 

 

Retrospectively applied, WI has a higher peak rating than Aus . India lowest among # 1 teams. 

[Ajju]

Drawback is that they dont have finisher like Dhoni

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Ajju said:

Drawback is that they dont have finisher like Dhoni

Butler naam to suna hoga 

[Ajju]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Butler naam to suna hoga 

Butler is not good hitter like Dhoni imo

[Vickydev]

People go about their batting but their bowling is quality as well. Woakes is almost always performing. Archer is top class and Wood is improving tremendously. Then they have Adil Rashid who is a proper wicket taker and the all rounders to go with that.

Currently rate them higher than India's attack with failing spinners, an underwhelming Bhuvi and an overworked Shami.

[Gollum]

Will take a few more years to develop that aura. Against Aussies half the battle was lost before toss. 

[Rasgulla]

Pleaseeeeee 

[sandeep]

3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

I know its early to say and they are playing at home but there are some parallels i have noticed

 

1. Every batsman will come n attack- In that aussie side every batsman use to come n start attacking not letting opposition have advantage . Even the batsman who cudnt attack like others rotated strike to great extent , the key was the scoreboard shud never stop ticking. This england side is going on same route , every batsman comes n starts playing attacking cricket.
2. Taking 4-5 wkts within 100 runs of opposition- Aussies use to the plan of taking 4-5 wkts till 100 runs to perfection most days which never let the opposition put a big total on board, now england is doing same. They dont have mcgrath or warne but then again Australian also missed their services a lot due to injury n ban but their plan use to be always same....key was bowling attack working as unit which england is also doing. Archer and woods pace has given them a completely diff dimension , they constantly provide them breakthrough and let someone like Rashid make it worse as he also keeps chipping away with wkts. Everyone attacks with the bat and everyone takes wkts with the ball 
3. Many Runaway Match winners
   Aussie had - gilly, hayden, hussey, ponting, symo, warne, mcgrath lee
   Eng has- Roy, bairstrow, butler, stokes, morgan, archer 
   Other may be a lil less but not far away , and with these many match winners a team can win from nowere
4. Bench strength- Even when aussies use to miss their key player the bench strength use to step up and be as good as the ones missing, england bench strength is pushing main player for a position now.

 

Since most players have few years left in front of them this team is set to dominate for a decade atleast 

 

Both teams have one common trait playing attacking cricket 

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, sandeep said:

 

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaJawRckPwE

 

 

Ofcourse that Australia never lost early wkts or had a collapse 

 

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

What a joke. The team that lost to Pakistan and Sri Lanka in the World Cup and barely scraped through in the Final is being compared to a team that played two full World Cups without losing a game and decimated their opponents in three straight World Cup finals lol.

[Lone Wolf]

4 hours ago, kohli said:

That aus   batting &  bowling was best in world. This English bowling is good not best. Aus , india & nz bowling > eng bowling 

Lol India bowling..  NZ chased 340 odd vs us recently.  WI too managed to tie 320+ chase in a series..  These are our last two bilateral ODI series results.  We still rely on spinners to take wickets.  We barely take 2-3 wickets in PP.  Even in WC SF that's where we lost.  Dropping in form Shami & playing Bhuvi.  

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

What a joke. The team that lost to Pakistan and Sri Lanka in the World Cup and barely scraped through in the Final is being compared to a team that played two full World Cups without losing a game and decimated their opponents in three straight World Cup finals lol.

I used the word flashes didnt say they are like them. 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

I used the word flashes didnt say they are like them. 

There's no flashes. Australia weren't FTBs like England. 

[Laaloo]

Lol nah