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gambo, can you please add a poll to this thread. Question : "Does Rahul Dravid understand the T20 game as a batsman and as a captain, and what it takes to win" Options : Just Yes or No. Thnks
Done. FWIW, it's quite evident that RD and Gangs are both struggling pretty badly as batsmen in T20. Laxy surprisingly has been OK.
Gambo' date=' can you kick this dickhead out of this board? thanks.[/quote'] :-!
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gambo, can you please add a poll to this thread. Question : "Does Rahul Dravid understand the T20 game as a batsman and as a captain, and what it takes to win" Options : Just Yes or No. Thnks
Sorry, the poll must be whether 'Dravid fully deserves to kicked out of cricket, disgraced and shamed'. Yes or No.'
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And you are a ****ing shithole without a brain. My logic is just about as good as yours if you are calling Dravid a disgraceful batsman. He is the ONLY player in Indian cricket who has never played for himself and always for the team. If you claim to have watched Cricket over the past 30 years and you're unable to grasp this' date= wow.
stfu...and answer the question...who was Dravid playing for TODAY ?? His team to win ? If you think so, you dont even have a brain in your arse...ANY player would see that batting out ball after ball for no run between the crucial 5th and 10th over is NOT helping his team...explain his absolutely inexplicable batting and captaincy today :finger:
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I would probably say the same thing if a player comes in with 2 balls needed to draw a test, 2 wkts in hand and 150 runs to win...only a draw/defeat is possible...if that player rushes out , slogs the first ball and gets stumped, and if India lose, I would say " drop him, not only from tests but also ODIs", because he didnt seem to understand what was needed then, and hardly had a thought for his team and we lost a game, so drop him from all forms of the game ...EVEN if that player is a brilliant ODI player.
So by that logic of yours, shouldn't UV be giggling on his dad's lap by now? I mean he has been total disaster in tests, so he does not deserved to be picked in ODI's or T20 (no matter how good his hitting abilities are). Heck leave UV outta this and consider 'ODI specialist' Michael Bevan. Michael bevan was a TOTAL disaster in tests and did not show any resilience in test cricket; so did he deserve his chance in ODI's ? Remember, he only averaged 56 in ODI's. P.S: People who are cursing, please stop it. People go overboard whenever Hari retaliates from their views.
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Sorry, the poll must be whether 'Dravid fully deserves to kicked out of cricket, disgraced and shamed'. Yes or No.'
I strongly object to the poll question and options. That was not what was originally told about Dravid in the thread earlier.
Yeah I totally agree. Hari your question was about RD's OVERALL performance and not T20 only. You cheated us :finger::haha:
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stfu...and answer the question...who was Dravid playing for TODAY ?? His team to win ? If you think so' date=' you dont even have a brain in your arse...ANY player would see that batting out ball after ball for no run between the crucial 5th and 10th over is NOT helping his team...explain his absolutely inexplicable batting and captaincy today :finger:[/quote'] Your comments were NOT geared towards his performance today but him as a player for India.
If you think so, you dont even have a brain in your arse
Apart from you, I haven't met any people who do.
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Dravid the T20 bat and cappo deserves every brickbat and criticism coming his way. No doubt about it. Dravid the test bat, who is among the top 3 test bats India has produced, deserves all the plaudits and bouquets.

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We can actually have a poll on this, whether Dravid ' fully deserves to kicked out of cricket, disgraced and shamed'. And what if the majority think you are wrong?
This should have been the actual poll question.
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Gambit, that wasn't the case though. He has played terrific knocks in both the ODIs and Tests (undoubtedly one of the best ever) but Hari's statement that because he failed in some idiotic domestic T20 league means he's a disgraceful batsman who ought to quit? WTF ? Previous game his 66(51) was too slow for T20s? Perhaps it is worth remembering that without his score, Bangalore wouldn't have fought for anything. Pathetic personal attack on a great player really.

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Your comments were NOT geared towards his performance today but him as a player for India. .
My comments are directed at a player who has lost his cricketing intelligence and is UNABLE to read a cricket match and play ( or not play or allow others better suited to do the job)...this reflects on his abilty to judge a cricket match.period
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Gambit' date=' that wasn't the case though. He has played terrific knocks in both the ODIs and Tests (undoubtedly one of the best ever) but Hari's statement that because he failed in some idiotic domestic T20 league means he's a disgraceful batsman who ought to quit? WTF ?[b'] Previous game his 66(51) was too slow for T20s? Perhaps it is worth remembering that without his score, Bangalore wouldn't have fought for anything. Pathetic personal attack on a great player really.
Where is Hari's criticism on Dhoni's 33(33) when CSK were chasing a target of 188 :hysterical:. Btw Dhoni came in at 6th over and got out in 18th over. He scored 33 in this period of time :hysterical:
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Gambit' date=' that wasn't the case though. He has played terrific knocks in both the ODIs and Tests (undoubtedly one of the best ever) but Hari's statement that because he failed in some idiotic domestic T20 league means he's a disgraceful batsman who ought to quit? WTF ? Previous game his 66(51) was too slow for T20s? Perhaps it is worth remembering that without his score, Bangalore wouldn't have fought for anything. [b']Pathetic personal attack on a great player really.
I don't agree with Hari's statement about RD as a bat overall at all but you have to admit that RD has been pretty poor in T20 thus far. And so has Dada, I hasten to add before the usual suspects attack me for being a Gangulian and all that. Regarding the boldface statement, which Indian cricketer, past or present, has escaped this type of ire from Indian fans? Heck, turn back the clock a few months ago and Tendulkar was being butchered on this very forum. And a bit before that, it was Ganguly.
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^ Over reactions ? Are you kidding ? Any cricket player who has played 12 years International cricket will have minimum 2 things in him. 1. analysis of game situation and what it takes 2. Putting his team's interest before everything else. You please answer these questions. 1. A seasoned veteran like Dravid , supposedly one of India's best cricketers...had he known what a limited overs game is all about ? Does he know what it takes to win a T20 match ? Was that the kind of team he would select for winning a T20 match ? Chanderpaul, Boucher, kallis, Kumble, Sunil Joshi et al ? 2. has he put his team above him ? Take today's game ( just ONE example, there are dozen other examples). His bowlers did a great job and with a 130 to win off 16 overs, the match was there to be won...just 8.2 rpo. Dravid should know very well that his best 3-4 hitters should play maximum, or all of the 16 overs. What does he do ? He comes in to bat in the 5th over and bats till 10th over...19 runs are added, he himself plays out 11 balls for 5 runs...shows NO intent of hitting, and then gets out. Players like Cameron White and Kohli, known as much better hitters cool their heels in the pavillion while all this is happening, and then the req runrate is 14+ per over. Dravid's team loses and the whole world knows why. And if this man has cricketing intelligence and is one of the GREATEST players , I am sorry..I am afraid he doesnt...even to the extent he doesnt realise where the game is headed and doesnt even sacrifice his wicket to allow others to try and win...just plods on and on and on at a 45% SR in a 16 overs game, kills momentum and like a fat man in a bus sitting on 5 seats in the ladies row and grinning in an evil manner at old ladies standing, he occupies space and time and makes the job impossible for his team. Dravid fully deserves to be kicked out of cricket , disgraced and shamed...he has done all this to himself and no one desreves it more than him.
I just hated watching him KILL momentum in ODIs for many many years (before he became a finisher)
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That is just coming out of nowhere. RD deserved to be out ODI and T20, which we have done. Test cricket is still RD's forte and I think he can still play test matches for atleast 1 and half year. T20 performance should not be counted when picking test team and vice-versa.
dunno abt hm in tests anymore, seeing him in aus
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Dravid the T20 bat and cappo deserves every brickbat and criticism coming his way. No doubt about it.
I dont agree with that either. Dravid gets singled out because of the perception that lies out there that he is a poor T20 batsman. The fact of the matter is, he is one of the handful of batsman who have scored 2 50s so far in this tournament. We all know what Dravid can do. He is never going to make a 40 ball 70, but he is definitely good enough to give you a 40 ball 55. Individually, is that good enough for T20? No. Will I pick Rahul Dravid in a T20 Indian team? No. Simply because there are better players out there than him. But his biggest curse has been the total non-performance of his team mates like White, Kallis and Chanderpaul. He cant be held responsible for all that.
Dravid the test bat, who is among the top 3 test bats India has produced, deserves all the plaudits and bouquets.
Top 3 ? You gotto be joking. He is the undoubted best, EVER.
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