Detonator Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Cricket evolved from Test Cricket. You would be an imbecile to take up a baseball stance in a test match. 'Batting' in baseball has one objective - swing hard. Cricket is much more multi-dimensional. +1 Taking a baseball stance is the last thing you shld do in cricket. Cricketers shld stay away from this stupid sport called baseball. They shldn't mix different sports [/thread] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I have smashed baseballs coming at me at 70mph without fail in batting cages. but as a cricketer who played at the gully level at the most I might not lay bat on ball when a tundler bowls at me at 70mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nballa Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Got to say shortbread has this one. Sorry Missfielder I think its time you retire from this one. Follow Nball and retire peacefully and gracefully. Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk reason I didn't post anymore in this tread is there is no point arguing on a cricket board that baseball is more fun. of course it is fruitless. I can argue day and night about the difficulties of putting in the field of play a baseball rather than a cricket ball but you folks wouldn't understand. for you baseball is just hitting a bunch of full tosses. I appreciate midfielder' efforts and agree with him, hitting a baseball into play (not fouls or groundouts) is much much more difficult that hitting a cricket ball into play because of the restrictive rules for the batters in baseball (restricted area of the field, more fielders per area than cricket, faster outfielders, more umpires, gloves, longer fields than cricket). I mean for all purposes you have to love a game to appreciate it. I love baseball and cricket and because I am in America and follow baseball more I love baseball more. cricket was my first love. I cried when india lost, but thesedays because of the MC/BC abusing youth and commercialization + untalented players I don't like it as much. I played some amount of league cricket in usa and let me tell you the ball does not come as fast as a baseball pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachinism Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 ^^ All Internet debate is fruitless, nobody ever has been convinced to the other side. Its usually just interesting to see what arguments people come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nballa Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Farthest hit documented for baseball is approx 200 meters. that Is not true bro. maybe after rolling. but at impact the furthest modern measurement is around 502 ft which is abt 155 meters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachinism Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 That's all irrelevant because Sahibzada Mohammad Shahid Khan Afridi once hit a six 210m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortbread Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 cricket was my first love. I cried when india lost' date=' but thesedays because of the MC/BC abusing youth and commercialization + untalented players I don't like it as much. I played some amount of league cricket in usa and let me tell you the ball does not come as fast as a baseball pitch.[/quote'] Commercialization........enlighten me nballa....is there none in baseball?! Cricket is not perfect...far from it, but please don't tell me baseball is perfect. Steroid abuse is just one of the many issues. Youth abuse in every nation MC/BC or the 'F' word, the only sugar-coated sport left might be chess. Untalented players.......you haven't seen cricket lately...have you?! Or where you refering to the steroid fed hispanics in baseball?! The argument started when dudfielder started claiming baseball is the epitome of fitness, then his nonsense was caught red-handed. Had he said, football, tennis, rugby, I would have agreed plenty of fitness tips to be taken from these sports. Baseball....nope.....the rate at which cricketers are getting fitter each passing season, wont be long before baseball takes notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 This thread has become more about cricket vs baseball and it's a no brainer that overall as a sport cricket requires moreskill but the OP is not far off when he says cricket can take things from Baseball... infact it already has and I am not talking about fitness drills and moneyball concepts but things like Throwing from the outfield Slower balls hitting techniques-Gilchrist and recently didn't Rahane say he was adopting some baseball hitting technique working with Amre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 ^Also slides in the outfield to stop the ball etc are from baseball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 This thread has become more about cricket vs baseball and it's a no brainer that overall as a sport cricket requires moreskill but the OP is not far off when he says cricket can take things from Baseball... infact it already has and I am not talking about fitness drills and moneyball concepts but things like Throwing from the outfield Slower balls hitting techniques-Gilchrist and recently didn't Rahane say he was adopting some baseball hitting technique working with Amre? Ashwin has resorted to baseball style hitting. Other day six landed somewhere in the commentary box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Seam of 8 cuts the air in multiple direction whereas single seam deviates left and right only. There is no equivalent of corkscrew motion in cricket. You do not understand fluid dynamics. Yes, cricket does not have spiralling corkscrew motion. Baseball does not have anyehere close to the lateral deviatipn in the air or dip like in cricket. Seam of figure 8 cancels out a lot of the deviations. Axial seam of cricket ball does not Sent from my GT-S5830D using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Most of the muscle group used in throwing action is the same. Bret Lee was the fastest that is why he was offered an opportunity. Yes the hitters do. Some are fast some are slow but the average speeds are astounding. People who dont make the cut are faster than most of the cricket players. The speed and accuracy of triple play is amazing. This is not personal. Muscle group is irrelevant. We use the same muscle group for running and skating. Does not mean peoficiency at one leads to the other. The fact is, cricketers do not throw the ball as a pitch in baseball so lee is no benchmark. Sent from my GT-S5830D using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 You do not understand fluid dynamics. Yes, cricket does not have spiralling corkscrew motion. Baseball does not have anyehere close to the lateral deviatipn in the air or dip like in cricket. Seam of figure 8 cancels out a lot of the deviations. Axial seam of cricket ball does not Sent from my GT-S5830D using Tapatalk 2 Lateral movement is hard to handle a corkscrew is impossible. Seam 8 has lot more variation and turbulence. Straight seam not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 Muscle group is irrelevant. We use the same muscle group for running and skating. Does not mean peoficiency at one leads to the other. The fact is, cricketers do not throw the ball as a pitch in baseball so lee is no benchmark. Sent from my GT-S5830D using Tapatalk 2 Motions are the same. This is not difficult but it is true" A baseball player can play any sport better than other sport player can baseball." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 Ashwin has resorted to baseball style hitting. Other day six landed somewhere in the commentary box. Reaction time is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 This thread has become more about cricket vs baseball and it's a no brainer that overall as a sport cricket requires moreskill but the OP is not far off when he says cricket can take things from Baseball... infact it already has and I am not talking about fitness drills and moneyball concepts but things like Throwing from the outfield Slower balls hitting techniques-Gilchrist and recently didn't Rahane say he was adopting some baseball hitting technique working with Amre? All I am trying to say that people need to learn something from baseball but some folks are reacting as if I have stepped on their peckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 ^^ All Internet debate is fruitless' date=' nobody ever has been convinced to the other side. Its usually just interesting to see what arguments people come up with.[/quote'] so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 it's becoz baseball batters are swingling blindly to chucking. In cricket, you can touch the ball and do nothing. A cricketer can play baseball without practice. A baseball player can't play cricket without learning the basics. He would crap his pants at the sight of a cannon ball rising from the gound directed at your ribs/box/belly/chest/head. Look at the numbers it is not a cannon ball anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 Cricket evolved from Test Cricket. You would be an imbecile to take up a baseball stance in a test match. 'Batting' in baseball has one objective - swing hard. Cricket is much more multi-dimensional. I have seen enough test cricket, I will take t20 over test any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfielder Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 I have smashed baseballs coming at me at 70mph without fail in batting cages. but as a cricketer who played at the gully level at the most I might not lay bat on ball when a tundler bowls at me at 70mph Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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