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  1. Siraj is the only fast bowler in India who can move the ball both ways at good pace in most conditions. And bowl in good areas while doing all this. Dropping him would be a big risk in England. ( Bumrah will bowl in good areas at good pace ... but may or may not move the ball Shami will move the ball a bit at good pace ... but he may or may not bowl in good areas Ishant will bowl in good areas and get inswing ... but he may or may not get away movement or bowl at pace )
    10 points
  2. Wakai mein duniya badal rahi hai. Paodosi creating account with moniker Baji Rao, what next? Poyzz with accounts like Prithviraj Chauhan, Maharana Pratap, Guru Gobind Singh, Shivaji, Lachit, maybe even Sam Bahadur!!!! Niiiice....shift from Ghori, Ghazni, Babur
    7 points
  3. So we have Sharabi and Deewar as our head coaches. Aaj khush to bahot hoga, a certain AB.
    7 points
  4. Oh bhai oh, 'us to the WTC final'? Another thread (Ashwin action) you wrote On topic of Mohali 2011 SF your response to @neel roy Not even 24 hours since you joined this forum and already so many mistakes
    6 points
  5. What a clown, let him do this nonsense in IPL and see his butt kicked. These morons think they are bigger than game itself in Bangladesh and that is one of the reasons why Bangladesh has done very little in international cricket.Clowns having too much ego.
    6 points
  6. Sundar should have been in the squad of 15, could have been concussion substitute for a spinner or batsman. More versatile than Vihari, and a LHB to boot.
    5 points
  7. Javed Miandad is a supporter of terrorism, promoter of violence and a relative of the most notorious criminal in the World today. He is no better than Hafeez Saeed. Sane and peace loving Pakistanis should not be proud of this rogue. I don't care what he did on the cricket field, but his views are so rotten, that he does not deserve anything but chastisement.
    5 points
  8. They seem to have huge egos cant forget Mushfiqur's meltdown last year
    5 points
  9. Better delete all my accounts in case I get a call up soon!
    5 points
  10. Jadeja-Ashwin aren't just spinners. They are all-rounders. I have more faith in Jadeja's batting than Vihari's. Ashwin isn't far behind either. Jadeja 2.0 can play as a batsman alone in our lower middle order. And Ashwin can be much more useful than a 4th seamer who can't bat.
    4 points
  11. :) he is from balochistan I think. Yes when it becomes independent from pakistan definitely you can have test status. Dont worry BCCI will make sure of it and also host your team for 3 t20s and 3 odi s…
    4 points
  12. Should have been there instead of Umesh.
    4 points
  13. A bowler playing a test match has the best chance of getting over nerves. Unlike bowlers in limited over matches or batsmen in any format ... bowlers will gèt more chances even if they bowl a few ordinary overs in a test. Moreover, Siraj is a player who thrives on confidence and momentum. His best comes out when the captain is showing faith in him and he is on a roll. We need to capitalize on this.
    4 points
  14. As if we have not seen Shami (my favourite) struggle in swinging conditions before,each past experience is enough to say Siraj should play as 3rd seamer on 18th June Clown should not botch this chance ,its enough ,he has habit of making selection blunders maybe comes naturally to him
    4 points
  15. Expecting comedy selection come Friday. This TM sure does love trolling especially when it comes to big matches. Don't be surprised if we see this XI: Gill Rohit Che Kohli Rahane Vihari Saha Jaddu/Ash Umesh Shami Bumrah/Siraj/Ishant Once that happens I want plenty of @Suhaan and @ShoonyaSifar threads on page one
    4 points
  16. With Kohli I'm just hoping I don't see Saha coming out with gloves if we field on first day as a 'pure wicketkeeper' Our tail needs to contribute.I'll put Siraj at 9
    4 points
  17. If anyone has seen the forecast for the test match.. rain predicted on all 5 days of the match. why do they even bother hosting cricket in this miserable damp cloth of a country.
    4 points
  18. If the pitch is dry and flat and weather is good.these guys have won us many games and they are in form and can bat.I would go with Rohit gill pujara kohli Rahane Pant Jadeja Ashwin Siraj bumrah Shami
    4 points
  19. He is acting like cry baby to hide his inability or lack of performance. He should focus on his performance, in international also whatever chances he gets has nothing to showcase. He has been simply found out due to him being slower through the air.
    4 points
  20. Shameful behaviour and not for the first time. He needs to be kicked out for a year or 2.
    4 points
  21. Texan

    Who will win the WTC?

    Who?
    4 points
  22. how many 'indians' here were born in a white country? grew up, spent your formative years being excluded, feeling like you don't belong? i find it interesting so many Indians, i assume born and raised in India, think this is a non issue
    4 points
  23. Don't forget captain Coolie.
    4 points
  24. Imran, Wasim still have credentials to be praised. Sanju Manju ends up downplaying our stalwarts whilst praising the likes of Razzaq, Afridi, Imran Nazir, random Pak bowler averaging in the 40s like Sami......pos. Then has the nerve to say that Indian bodies aren't designed to be fast bowlers. Fully represents the very worst stereotypes of Indians...meek, submissive, inferiority complex ridden, self-hating, whiny little beech. Every time he opens his mouth with that constipated look, I want to punch a hole in my screen.
    4 points
  25. Hey ICFers, With less than a week to go, it's time for us to have a proper pre-match discussion thread for the finals. Kindly use this thread for general pre-match preparation discussions instead of opening 5-10 threads. Also, KEEP THE DISCUSSION CIVILIZED. Save the gaali-galoch for the actual match thread. We will add the best bits from this thread to the match thread op. Also, The Against the Turn crew had a pre-match discussion. Do check it out: If there is any interest, we can arrange further zoom or clubhouse discussions as well.
    3 points
  26. And Sundar sound have been in the squad of 15, in case Ash/Jadeja are playing and get concussed.
    3 points
  27. Indian fans are the worst chokers in the world, they choke way before the match has even started. Good lord, such negativity.
    3 points
  28. Rubbish. Kuldeep did well in that one match in Sydney where he was good. In 2021 Sundar averaged 42.25 Ashwin 28.83 and Jadeja 15.00. In 2018 Vihari averaged 47 Ashwin 24.83 and Jadeja 28.57. There is no comparison.
    3 points
  29. I think the boat has already passed for Rohit. When I think of best test players with less than 20 hundreds in modern era, the names that come to mind are Pujara, Elgar, Latham, Azhar Ali, Matthews etc. None anywhere close to ATG. If I look for great ODI player who have 20+ test hundreds to their name, then there is Kohli, de Villiers, Taylor (almost there) and Warner. I am not sure if Warner and Taylor are even considered as ATG among them. Rohit is comfortably behind them all in tests.
    3 points
  30. What if he goes through a freak spell and dismantles Kiwis very cheaply thay may setup game for us We shouldn't be conservative in our approach and be old school preferring experience over current form
    3 points
  31. 3 points
  32. Its clear that for Siraj to play, Shami would have to be benched. That's not an easy call for any skipper to make. You don't just screw over the horses that brought you to the big dance, for some marginal possible benefit. It has to be a whole lot more tangible than that.
    3 points
  33. Keechad saaf karne ke liye keechad me utarna padta hai.
    3 points
  34. Get back to your green ghetto....
    3 points
  35. His 7 wickets and a match winning 67 were major contributors to the Gabba fortress breach and the series win. Has earned himself a few chances in the tests, at least overseas ones especially in a team where the top order batsmen cannot even roll their arm over. May as well prove to be useless but anyone who did so well in such adverse conditions, deserves all the praise.
    3 points
  36. I've been scouring the internet for any news of a 2nd baby ... no luck so far.
    3 points
  37. Ashwin has 2 MOTS against NZ, a match-up headache for Latham and Williamson. And they may play 5 LHBs...this Conway guy looks impressive as well. So unless it is a green top tough to choose Thakur over him. If you play Shami instead of him what happens to our already useless tail? The way I see it Bumrah, Ishant, Siraj, Jaddu MUST play. Ashwin vs Thakur vs Shami for last spot....Shami least preferred candidate. Who would Kiwis prefer to face...Ashwin or Thakur? They may be used to Thakur type bowlers but a quality offie like Ashwin, I doubt.
    3 points
  38. There is no place for this terrorist ka rishtedar in any respectable forum. Hope this pos goes to hell.
    3 points
  39. I surely won't bet on it. Duke ball in early English summer... Against the very best bowling attack that's tailor made for these conditions... And an attack that has two left arm seamers.. Going through a bad patch of form.. Pressure of an ICC final and captaincy.. Literally eveything is against him. It just cannot get any tougher for Kohli.
    3 points
  40. Thakur deserved to play in a couple of home tests vs England. We would have known more about his capabilities as a Test player. But the senior first approach of our kaptaanji kept him out as he preferred to play Ishant in all 4 tests. Now Thakur has got no chance. And perhaps may not even get to play a test barring multiple injuries in the team. 7 wickets and a match winning 67 at Gabba and no further opportunities to play tests even outside Asia. Not justified at all.
    3 points
  41. Without doubt Dilip Vengsarkar is one of the finest batsmen ever to have graced a cricket field. This week we commemorate the feat of Dilip Vengsarkar becoming the 1st overseas batsman ever to score three consecutive centuries in test matches at Lords. It is a landmark that would inscribe a permanent place in the museum of cricket. We also coincidentally celebrate the 35th anniversary of India’s first win at Lords, the mecca of cricket. What set Vengsarkar or 'Colonel' as he was popularly know apart was his flair for executing drives and dominatin
    3 points
  42. Deliberate ploy to get himself out of kkr next season.. burning bridges.. i guess he has been indeed treated shabbily. With 10 teams next season he ll be one of the top picks..
    3 points
  43. Gambhir and Vengsarkar were very similar in their prime peaks. Both had bradmanesque figures ( 85 to 88 for vengsarkar and 2008 to 2010 for Gambhir). They then suddenly had a bad dip in form which ended their career. Vengsarkar fyi didnt have a half century till his 20th innings if i m not wrong. Just think if those 20 early innings were productive he would easily have scored 7500 runs..
    3 points
  44. Kartik Tyagi is definitely a miss.. Gowtham over Tewatia is questionable.. maybe they picked him because he is the only finger spinner and they already have Chahar and Chahal for leg spin. Pandey should strictly be for ODIs.. would have liked to see 3D Shankar ahead of Pandey... honestly Pandey has been eating up Shankar's chances in SRH and now India XI
    3 points
  45. Ashwin is an offspinner, he is not competing against Warne or Murali who were wrist spinners.Murali was freak and chucker but that debate is for another day. The argument is Ashwin has been outbowled by like Ali while true to some extent but is more an indicitment on Indian batsmen. Warne and Murali were outbowled by many spinners Indian spinners in India. Ashwin after 2015 when healthy has been a very very good bowler in all conditions.He gets lefties out for fun on any wicket. So what Manjerkar is saying is utter nonsense, he used Axar Patel's reference to down play Ashwin's a
    3 points
  46. In 2030 the ECB will replace all duke balls with the kookaburra, in order to not offend the touring teams with late swing.
    3 points
  47. According to Manju, only Imran Khan is an ATG, rest all bits and pieces cricketers. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
    3 points
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