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    zen got a reaction from rkt.india in Prithvi Shaw, Suryakumar Yadav and Jayant Yadav set to join Indian team in England ahead of the Test series. Likely to fly in 2-3 days.   
    The over-reliance on spinners (including preparing wkts to help them pick wkts) means that Indian cricket takes one step forward and two backwards. 
     
    I am for a spinner free Indian cricket esp. overseas (best way to change the mindset) 
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    zen reacted to maniac in Prithvi Shaw, Suryakumar Yadav and Jayant Yadav set to join Indian team in England ahead of the Test series. Likely to fly in 2-3 days.   
    Jimmy Anderson after hearing the news of the backup batsmen 
     

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    zen got a reaction from f20143g70 in Prithvi Shaw, Suryakumar Yadav and Jayant Yadav set to join Indian team in England ahead of the Test series. Likely to fly in 2-3 days.   
    The over-reliance on spinners (including preparing wkts to help them pick wkts) means that Indian cricket takes one step forward and two backwards. 
     
    I am for a spinner free Indian cricket esp. overseas (best way to change the mindset) 
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    zen got a reaction from Lord in Are the Indian youngsters overrated   
    One only needs to see performances of Tendulkar (hit is first ODI 100 in 1994), Yuvi, Rohit, etc., early on in their careers ... 
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    zen got a reaction from Lord in Ashwin & Pujara accuse fielding coach, R Sridhar of cheating and siding with Virat Kohli after losing fielding drill   
    Why not have an appropriate title?
     
    "The competition was won by the Virat Kohli contingent which also had Rohit Sharma. The opposition team comprising R Aswin and Cheteshwar Pujara mockingly blamed Sridhar for backing Kohli’s side in the competition."
     
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    zen reacted to express bowling in Ideal T20 WC starting XI   
    1. Shaw
    2. Kishan
    3. Kohli
    4. Rahul / SKY
    5. Pant
    6. Hardik
    7. Jadeja / Krunal
    8. Shardul
    9. R.Chahar / Ashwin
    10. Siraj
    11. Bumrah
     
     
    ----  Need 2 absolute dashers at the top, like Shaw and Kishan 
    ----  Rahul must be told that he either plays at 150+ SR or will be replaced by SKY
    ----  There must be 6 super stroke players in the top 7. Can't afford more than 1 consolidator.
    ----  Siraj is bowling wonderful yorkers at will at the end and moving the ball both ways upfront. He is a must.
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    zen reacted to CodeOfWisden in Harsha Bhogle releases his All-Time India Test XI   
    No Indian fast bowler had the ability that Mcgrath, Lillee, Akram, Marshall, Steyn, Ambrose, Donald, Garner, Warne or any other ATG had. That's as simple as it gets. 
    If you are an ATG bowler you will shine even if you don't have a great support cast example Richard Hadlee and Murali. 
    We never had a bunch of good fast bowlers because we never had a pace bowling culture, only in the last five years, after the departure of Dhoni from test captaincy we have seen a big shift in fast bowling mentality, now the pace bowling culture is thriving. We will definitely produce an ATG in the next 10 years and other 3 or 4 26 - 28 averaging Gillespie level bowlers too. 
    Curse Virat all we want but despite all his shortcomings he helped us realise the importance of fast bowling culture in India. 
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    zen got a reaction from CodeOfWisden in Harsha Bhogle releases his All-Time India Test XI   
    Conjuncture is for those who try to make ordinary teams look better 
     
    Being an Ind ATG bowler means zilch when many many of the other teams have world ATG level bowlers 
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    zen got a reaction from Baji-Rao in Harsha Bhogle releases his All-Time India Test XI   
    Most of your points have been addressed including the relatively high impact of world ATG bowlers at their respective peak playing together for many of the other teams  ... Rather than spending time here why not study cricket to find out that Hadlee picked up 18 wkts in Ind? Marshall has tons of wkts? 
     
     
     
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    zen got a reaction from Baji-Rao in Harsha Bhogle releases his All-Time India Test XI   
    Conjuncture is for those who try to make ordinary teams look better 
     
    Being an Ind ATG bowler means zilch when many many of the other teams have world ATG level bowlers 
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    zen got a reaction from Baji-Rao in Harsha Bhogle releases his All-Time India Test XI   
    Buddy, other teams can make the similar points, which would make them even stronger 

     
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    zen got a reaction from Baji-Rao in Harsha Bhogle releases his All-Time India Test XI   
    Most teams do well in home conditions. The Aus of 00 beat Ind in 2004 and Ind needed an ATG performance from Laxman in 2001. In 2000s, Ind team had many players who are in Harsha’s team or their equivalent … SA has won a series in Ind too … Pak beat Ind in 1987 and had the better of 3 tests in 1999-00 (one test was part of Asian Test championship) … SL cleaned Ind up in spinning conditions in 2007-08 where Sehwag scored a double 

    Most of the folks who has followed cricket since a long time will not see your POV, which is basically to blow Ind’s trumpet 
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    zen got a reaction from Baji-Rao in Harsha Bhogle releases his All-Time India Test XI   
    Fans whose opinion I respect so not you … so run along back to your hole
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    zen got a reaction from Baji-Rao in Harsha Bhogle releases his All-Time India Test XI   
    NZ, Eng, Pak & SL would have good ATG sides too so difficult to place Ind ATG at even 5
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    zen reacted to express bowling in What's the role of consolidators in modern day LOIs?   
    What is the role of consolidators in modern day LOIs ?
     
    1)  To see to it that bilateral LOI series achieve results like 3-2 or 2-3 instead of 5-0 in our favour. The 4th and 5th matches are kept relevant this way.
     
    2)  To see to it that Stars with padded stats are created ... who are then used for ads.
     
    3)  Aren't we supposed to love personal centuries more than team wins !!
     
     
     
     
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    zen reacted to Harsh Thakor in Tribute to Yashpal Sharma   
    Tragically former test cricketer Yashpal Sharma expired on Tuesday morning, suffering from a cardiac arrest. The cricket world mourns the death of this great servant to Indian cricket. He emboldened the spirit of the game at it's utmost depth, with great reserves of courage and concentration. Ironically he is the only member of the 1983 World cup wining contingent who is no more. His death came as a surprise as he was hale and hearty to the end, embracing vegetarianism and keeping as fit as a fiddle.


     

     
    He may not have been the most talented, but was an epitome of determination, resilience or relentless spirit, many a times pulling India out of the woods. Few batsmen of his time better illustrated how the game was not only about talent but about battling spirit or tenacity.Yashpal batted with a characteristic pugnacity or grit, always willing to undertake a challenge. He was a key figure or pillar in the middle order and part of a nucleus in making India one of the strongest batting sides in the world of the 1980's.Most appropriately the great Sunil Gavaskar called Yashpal the man for the crisis. He was a master in playing in tune with the situation and in playing a supporting role in a great partnership.Yashpal’s tenacity was an example for youngsters to emulate. Yashpal was also a very effective ODI batsman with the ability to improvise strokes and adjust the pace of an innings in accordance to the situation required.


     

     

     

     
    Yashpal stepped into the test arena relatively late after giving a series of outstanding performances in 1st class cricket. For long he was neglected by the selectors, who did not perhaps recognize the budding flowering talent of the youngster early.


     

     
    He set the ball rolling in 1972 with two landmark centuries, for Punjab schools scoring 260 and then Punjab University scoring 139, in 1972.Making his debut in Ranji trophy in 1973 representing Punjab, he scored a most tenacious 60 in big 169 run partnership with Mohinder Amarnath.In 1977 Yashpal scored a match winning 173 against world class bowers of South Zone enabling North Zone to win the title. In 1979 he scored 762 runs at an average of 76.2 to be voted Indian cricketer of the year. Representing North Zone, he enabled his team to win the championship title .He even scored a century; scoring 135 against the touring West Indies., facing the likes of Malcolm Marshall and Vanburn Holder. In the 1979 Ranji trophy he scored a   match-wining 89 for North Zone against a top class West Zone teammate many junctures Yashpal's batting showed high technical skill or durability and the canny ability to improvise.


     

     

     
    The cavalier performance against North Zone in 1979 won Yashpal a place in the Indian squad for the 1979 tour of England. When I first saw him in England although unsuccessful in tests his batting in first class matches gave me glimpses of his potential, displaying great sense of assurance and technical maturity against the moving ball.   He aggregated a remarkable 884 runs at an average of 58.93.When scoring 40 in the 3rd test at Leeds he displayed his ability to withstand seamer friendly conditions, in a low scoring game.


     

     

     
    Playing against Australia in late 1979 Yashpal averaged above 50, including an unbeaten 100. At Delhi Yashpal scored his 1st test hundred and in the subsequent test at Kolkata his fifty all but won the gem for India. Later in the same season in 1979-80, against one of the strongest Pakistani teams, he averaged above 39, scoring 3 fifties. Above all he helped India win their 1st ever series against Pakistan for 28 years. Most valiantly he stood up against the likes of Imran Khan ,Iqbal Qasim and Sikander Bhakt.


     

     

     
    Although unsuccessful on the tours of Australia and New Zealand in 1980-81 Yashpal made a spectacular comeback against England in 1981-82, when scoring 140 at Madras. I can't forget his 316 epic partnership with Gundappa Vishwanath.In that innings Yashpal was a virtual embodiment of patience .In 3 innings she averaged a remarkable 110 in that series.


     

     
    He failed in England in 1982 .However in  1982-83 against the strongest bowling attacks in  Pakistan and West Indies Yashpal displayed considerable resilience or combative spirit averaging around 35.I praise him for standing up like a boulder against a gale facing the likes of Imran.,Qadir,Marshall, Roberts, Garner and Holding.


     

     

     

     
    The 1983 World cup was the most redeeming point of Yashpal Sharma's career. In the opening match against the invincible West Indies who were twice champions he exuded death defying courage in his knock of 89.India were tottering at one stage before Yashpal launched a most valiant rearguard action to take India to a score of 262.It was his innings that steered India to a position of strength, Above all India won the game against the best ever team till then, to register its first ever world cup triumph. I regret I can’t locate a video of this landmark knock of his, which may rank amongst the best ever in an ODI against the great Calypso pace quartet. Subsequently his 40 played an important part in shaping India's total of 248, which proved to be match-winning one. However it was the semi-final against England which was the crowing point of Yashpal's career. On a wicket with low bounce, he paved the way or steered India home to gain a berth into the final, by chasing down a target of 214 run s for victory. In my view, it was one of the most clinical or rhythmic batting displays in a world cup semi-final playing the anchor role with perfect tune. I can’t forget how Yashpal complemented the flamboyance of Sandeep Patil .He even executed some dazzling strokes like a six over long on of Paul  Allot dancing down the pitch, and a lofted flick for six over deep square leg of Bob Willis.. Eventually when he was dismissed at 61, an Indian win was virtually a foregone conclusion. In many ways that knock gave the very spirit of Indian cricket a new definition. I must also mention his classic running out of the English batsman Alan Lamb, which was major turning point in the game.


     

     
    He faded after the 1983 world cup making scare impact in 1983-84 at home against Pakistan and West Indies. Sad that the test career of such a warrior of the game was brought to an abrupt end. In his test career he scored 1606 run sat an average of 33.45 with 2 centuries and 9 fifties. In ODI’s he scored 883 runs at an average of 28.48., with 4 fifties. In 1st class cricket Yashpal averaged 44.88, scoring 8933 runs.


     

     

     

     
    Even if his career ended prematurely we must remember that Yashpal Sharma was one of the key figures in Indian cricket's renaissance in the 1983 world cup, arguably the greatest turning point in history of Indian sport. What is most important was he was part of a collective and cohesive spirit, and not just a team of gifted individuals. Former Skipper Kapil Dev held him in great esteem.


     

     
    It is also worth mentioning Yashpal’ s role in saving lives of Sikh cricketers during the anti-Sikh riots of 1984.


     

     
    After retirement most fruitfully he served Indian cricket as a coach.


     
    Most warm tributes have been paid by world cup team mates Sunil Gavaskar, Dilip Vengsarkar, Mohinder Amarnath, Roger Binny and Krishnamachari Srikanth.


     
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    zen reacted to CodeOfWisden in Near certainties in life   
    I love how Sharma fans never mention his name amongst chokers. Lol
    He is probably number one on that list. Haha. 
    Hasn't played a single innings of note in an ICC KO. (except bangladesh which nobody counts) 
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    zen got a reaction from RedFever in Euro 2020: Jimmy Neesham's hilarious take on England's final defeat reminds fans of NZ's World Cup loss   
    A nice banter but the point to note is that Eng did not design the rules in the ICC world cup to crown itself the world champ. The rules were in place before the tournament and applicable to every team. Eng itself got into the final by picking up its game big time, winning both virtual KO and KO games (peaked at the right time) 
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    zen got a reaction from Gollum in Euro 2020: Jimmy Neesham's hilarious take on England's final defeat reminds fans of NZ's World Cup loss   
    A nice banter but the point to note is that Eng did not design the rules in the ICC world cup to crown itself the world champ. The rules were in place before the tournament and applicable to every team. Eng itself got into the final by picking up its game big time, winning both virtual KO and KO games (peaked at the right time) 
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    zen got a reaction from zaqw222222 in Euro 2020: Jimmy Neesham's hilarious take on England's final defeat reminds fans of NZ's World Cup loss   
    A nice banter but the point to note is that Eng did not design the rules in the ICC world cup to crown itself the world champ. The rules were in place before the tournament and applicable to every team. Eng itself got into the final by picking up its game big time, winning both virtual KO and KO games (peaked at the right time) 
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    zen reacted to Ankit_sharma03 in Fans need to understand England approach will not work for Indian team.   
    if u plan a team based on that 1 in 40 day where we ll be 80/6...the plan is wrong and if ur expecting this situation  again n again might as well start replacing ur main batsman.
    N if 80/6 high chance even iyer wud be back in hut with his poor technique. Forget short ball his other issues arent even exposed now thats yet to come
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    zen reacted to Laaloo in Pakistan Tour of England 2021 - Discussion Thread   
    @zen @Ankit_sharma03
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    zen got a reaction from Lord in ICF Member Interview: zen   
    The list is limited to 5 players and covers various formats but mostly LOIs where you have more major tournaments ... As for Sundar, I was probably the 1st one to suggest that he should be tried in tests:
     
     
    I think he can have a decent career but needs to improve his fielding 
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    zen got a reaction from coffee_rules in ICF Member Interview: zen   
    What clarity are you seeking? The point was that stats are required to make key decisions in general. The degree of their importance and level of automation vary on the topic 
     
     
    There are various expects to it including a) expertise required to understand and implement stats. For e.g. something that x thinks is not possible, and expert y could make it possible, b) stats can be on various parameters including timely performances, c) Usually, ppl talk about general applicability which on a Bell curve would be 1 or 2 deviations away from mean, d) etc. 
     
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    zen got a reaction from maniac in ICF Member Interview: zen   
    Thanks guys for the interesting questions. I enjoyed answering all of them! 
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