Singh bling Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Indians should pay market rates These farmers need to stop cultivating in 1/2 to 1 bigha lands, and move to more productive areas why should Indian public be punished for the largese of these farmers, who then demand loan waivers...pathetic When world is moving to automation and machines do you have solution to give jobs to almost 400 million people? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 If middle class size was sufficiently large in India (like it is in developed countries), Government could have easily played the consumer vs the producer card. Its simple, you can have high MSP or you can have low inflation. But you can't have both. As for the loan waiver, Adityanath made a mistake. Namo needs to step in and stop that numbnuts Fadnavis from making the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 Everyone hates everyone else in India. It doesn't take much to start a riot. Farmers get plenty of favours from the state, but one can't make salad out of ****. Employment in farming needs to drop from 50+ percent to 20 percent to make it a feasible profession. As for farmers in Punjab/Karnatka or other non BJP states, they will do a dharna and go home once the government and media ignores them. Agitations only get coverage in BJP states. So where is Govt generating employment where almost 300-400 million of people can move.Even God cannot provide employment to such large population Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Singh bling said: So where is Govt generating employment where almost 300-400 million of people can move.Even God cannot provide employment to such large population Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk They are not and they wont. Government needs to focus on improving yields and become a net exporter of food. Invest heavily in food processing and maybe Farmers will see a marginal increase in their incomes. Some of the farm labour will move into food processing sector, some will go to urban areas to find unskilled jobs in manufacturing, infrastructure etc.. Rest are screwed. chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Singh bling said: When world is moving to automation and machines do you have solution to give jobs to almost 400 million people? Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Productive doesn't necessarily mean manufacturing, and besides automation of manufacturing is overblown, these farmers have been lazy bums for years sitting on poor yielding land and begging for loan waivers, laziness breeds entitlement, entitlement breeds dumpyards like UP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, asterix said: I'll like to give at least 2 more terms.... Not sure Indian public will give 2 more terms or not... BJP might have many limitations but still better than Anti-National Congress which expects Pakistan to help dislodge the NDA Govt.... BJP is not an absolute Right Wing Party. It's Centre Right... I hope it becomes more Right Wing in future... Hindus (They only have India as a country of own) deserve a proper Right Wing Party rule of decades to secure their future and dismantle the Congress Ecosystem... No, right wing is on its way out in most educated, democratic societies. Without temporary/artificial issues such as islamic immigration, right wing politics will become fringe, just like left wing is also a fringe in the civilized world. This is because the fundamental problem of right wing politics is mixing religion with state and that is fundamentally abhorrent to all but the most religiously fundamentalist people- people who are on the decline, be it in India or Japan or the west. The fundamental to a well run country is a country that keeps its laws separate from books written by people with less knowledge than a teenager. Doesn't matter if its Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Jain or Sikh- what some random book says is 'a good idea', may be a good idea for you or millions of others inside their own homes, in their private lives. But not for national policy or national laws. What India needs, is a strong party with strong credentials and a strong policy to stand up to the BJP. Not because BJP are bad- they are actually the best folks to rule India for now or even for another decade. But because we need atleast two parties with strong power base and strong governance record, to balance each other. Right now, congress is imploding due to mismanagement and public have lost faith in their policies as they are nothing more than divisive, vote-bank politics. Which means BJP has no competition and there is nothing stopping BJP from getting complacent, as the Congress were in the Nehru-Indira days and 'doing whatever it wishes, because its our turn for Raj now'. If a party like AAP or a new party steps up to the plate and shows itself to be a centrist party that doesnt engage in communalism, it will keep the BJP honest and therefore, better for all involved. In ideal world, we'd have a centre-left party to balance the centre-right BJP. Congress is technically that party, but it has too much baggage with its corruption and vote bank politics to be a credible alternative to BJP. Edited June 9, 2017 by Muloghonto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 9 hours ago, surajmal said: If middle class size was sufficiently large in India (like it is in developed countries), Government could have easily played the consumer vs the producer card. Its simple, you can have high MSP or you can have low inflation. But you can't have both. As for the loan waiver, Adityanath made a mistake. Namo needs to step in and stop that numbnuts Fadnavis from making the same. problem is they are wavering of the loans of big industrialists and that is creating all the ruckus. Now everyone wants their loans off. It is not like farmers have taken loan only of agricultural purposes. Lot of farmers take loan and buys cars and luxury items and then cant pay back. What is the logic of taking 10-15 lacs loans by farmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 21 minutes ago, rkt.india said: problem is they are wavering of the loans of big industrialists and that is creating all the ruckus. Now everyone wants their loans off. It is not like farmers have taken loan only of agricultural purposes. Lot of farmers take loan and buys cars and luxury items and then cant pay back. What is the logic of taking 10-15 lacs loans by farmers. No one is waving loans for industrialists. They are just being restructured. Ofcourse, if you have a problem with that, then be okay with thousands of job losses when said entities shut shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 consequences of gandhian socialism. predominantly agrarian economy+ exploding population=recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 Quote Mandsaur agitation: How demonetisation brought MP farmers onto streets http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/mandsaur-agitation-how-demonetisation-brought-mp-farmers-onto-streets/story-fD9hc9HkXhHEmFPgZqXduK.html Blame the Congress , blame the farmers , but don't blame the policies of policies of ruling party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 As in the case of UP farm loan waiver, Centre has said to MH govt, pay it out of your own pocket. I wonder how bad states' finances are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 On 08/06/2017 at 9:20 AM, Gollum said: BJP ruled state, hence no jungle raj . Har har Modi, ghar ghar Modi !!! QED, move on to some other state. Right bhakts? Only farmers who are poor in BJP ruled states,. Everywhere else they are Rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 One more farmer suicide in MP today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Maharhastra and Punjab now thinking of providing loan waivers what an effing joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Swaminathan Swaminathan Swaminathan... Well, here is the man himself Keep burning Congis and Aaptards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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