coffee_rules Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 20 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: Businesses have started to warn that if there is no stop to the rise in bills many will have to shut down- many have started reducing their opening hours already. This could potentially be a worse recession than 2008. All in the name for playing games with Putin Fracking for shale gas is not allowed in the UK either due to numpty Greens Lizz has plans of borrowing 9 bil to compensate for higher costs. That’s good news for you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 23 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Lizz has plans of borrowing 9 bil to compensate for higher costs. That’s good news for you guys 9? its 150 Billion... which means tax payers for a long time will be subsidising these obscene profits of energy firms. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 ^^ I recall similar trends in 2008 before the economic crisis https://money.cnn.com/2009/01/30/news/companies/exxon_earnings/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 On 9/8/2022 at 7:31 AM, rkt.india said: See, Forget NATO, Putin and West are fighting in Ukraine primarily for energy and economivs. Black Sea has got Gas reserve good enough to service needs to EU so Russia took over Crimea along with naval Port gain of Crimea https://euromaidanpress.com/2018/10/10/black-sea-gas-deposits-an-overlooked-reason-for-russias-occupation-of-crimea/ After annexation, Russia soon realised that human Population in Crimea is unsustainable as within few years a dam of Ukraine was fully cemented to block the water from river to Crimea. So Putin wanted decided to teach a lesson by taking over complete Kyiv, But soon realised its too big to Chew. Now his new target is secure Black Sea and the Ukranian reqion which has that River. Check below, You will understand where the Fighting is on. Website maintains daily map/news /territorial control update https://liveuamap.com/en/time/02.08.2022 Bottom Line is Putin can not just go on invading Nations without reprecursions. I am happy that EU has finally shown some spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 A good percentage of $500 billion is the additional energy bill for EU as a result of the war and their stance. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/08/business/liz-truss-energy-price-cap-europe/index.html Putting their money where their mouth is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Seems like Ukraine is making Russians sweat. Russians losing ground quiet rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/8/2022 at 4:32 PM, Clarke said: US Strategic Petroleum Reserve Is At Its Lowest Level Since 1984 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/09/07/the-strategic-petroleum-reserve-is-at-its-lowest-level-since-1984/?sh=65cdcdde77c7 Two things come to mind 1. This has been done for mid term polls due in November. 2. This information (remaining strategic reserves) imo should be kept secret because it can lead to price increases by opec cartel etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Seems like Ukraine is making Russians sweat. Russians losing ground quiet rapidly. The Russian backed separatists already held significant territory in donbass before the war began... Russia has not been able to gain much land. In the hindsight, Putin will agree he made a mistake fell into US trap. Maybe a total failure or Maybe the plan is something bigger...to dethrone USD as reserve currency etc, i don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 First mobilization in Russia since WWII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 On 9/23/2022 at 4:08 AM, Clarke said: First mobilization in Russia since WWII Russia is done with war. It’s hard for them to admit they thought Ukraine will not give a fight and walked in without any plans biggest blunder from Putin they lost so many leaders in the wars. Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Quote Moscow is ready for talks with Kiev, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday at a ceremony for the signing of treaties on the inclusion of the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics (LPR and DPR), as well as the regions of Kherson and Zaporozhye, which declared independence from Ukraine, into Russia. “We call on the Kiev regime to cease all hostilities, stop the war it started back in 2014 and return to the negotiating table,” he said, adding, however, that Moscow will not “betray” the territories that want to become a part of Russia. “People have made their choice. A clear one,” Putin said. Putin has called on Kiev to treat the “free choice” made by the people of the four territories “with respect.” “That is the only way for peace,” he added. The president also warned that Russia would defend its territory using all means available and would do “everything to ensure security of its people.” He also vowed to help the four territories joining Russia to rebuild, adding that their people would feel the support of all Russian regions. https://www.rt.com/russia/563803-ukraine-negotiations-speech-donbass/ Think end is near unless NATO wants to carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Ukraine being asked to give up 15% of its territory under the nuclear umbrella. Ultimately its an American decision to support Ukraine & continue pounding Russians and risk an escalation or give in to Putin & commodity markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 On 9/24/2022 at 8:01 AM, gattaca said: Russia is done with war. It’s hard for them to admit they thought Ukraine will not give a fight and walked in without any plans biggest blunder from Putin they lost so many leaders in the wars. Don’t believe all that is written in western media. Both sides are pulling the wool over your eyes. I think Putin is holding the fort with some induced energy crisis in EU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 It is truly a great country. An exception to every rule. NRIs who feel guilty about India not jumping on US bandwagon and them not looking cool to their white woke friends have to accept India's position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 10 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Where did America come from ? Russia has played with Nord Stream in the recent past. They're much more acclimatized to environmental vandalism than other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Clarke said: Where did America come from ? Russia has played with Nord Stream in the recent past. They're much more acclimatized to environmental vandalism than other countries. Well I guess we will never truly know or rather it will never be proved. But I don't see any merits for Russians to do this. They had stopped the supply anyway. And US reaction before and after the event doesn't leave much to guess. For me whether Europeans or US or both did this, it is to close any get out option during winter. No amount of protest and discontent in Europe will help now. That door has truly been shut down. No going back to Russian oil ever again. Edited October 4, 2022 by ravishingravi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, ravishingravi said: Well I guess we will never truly know or rather it will never be proved. But I don't see any merits for Russians to do this. They had stopped the supply anyway. And US reaction before and after the event doesn't leave much to guess. For me whether Europeans or US or both did this, it is to close any get out option during water. No amount of protest and discontent in Europe will help now. That door has truly been shut down. No going back to Russian oil ever again. Not sure if you have acces to rt in India but in west, its banned and only accessible via vpn. What rt says, it seems that German are not blaming Russians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Elon Musk proposes Ukraine peace plan Crimea would remain Russian, and Ukraine – neutral, the tycoon has suggested FILE PHOTO: Elon Musk speaks at the SATELLITE Conference and Exhibition in Washington, DC, March 9, 2020 © AP / Susan Walsh SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk has proposed a plan to end the conflict in Ukraine. The billionaire suggested that new elections be held in the four regions that recently voted to join Russia, while Ukraine would commit to neutrality and relinquish its claim to Crimea. Musk posted an outline of his plan on Twitter on Monday, suggesting that Russia “redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision,” with Moscow withdrawing from these areas if voters choose. Crimea would be declared “formally part of Russia, as it has been since 1783,” until Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev gifted the peninsula to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954. Musk, whose text messages revealed him to be an occasional reader of RT, called Khrushchev’s decision a “mistake.” The billionaire then suggested that Ukraine commit to neutrality – as Russia had requested long before it launched its military operation in February – and guarantee the supply of water to Crimea. Ukraine shut down the supply in 2014 after Crimeans overwhelmingly voted to rejoin the Russian Federation. Shortly after the launch of Russia’s operation in Ukraine, the supply was restored. “This is highly likely to be the outcome in the end,” Musk commented on his suggestion, adding that it is “just a question of how many people die before then.” The plan is unlikely to find fans in Kiev. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has vowed not to negotiate with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, and to seize the entirety of the territory Kiev claims as its own – including the Donbass republics and Crimea – by force. Furthermore, Zelensky sent an application for membership to the NATO alliance last week. Read more Ukrainian commander believes Putin wants to take Kiev Residents of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, and Kherson and Zaporozhye Regions, would likely vote in overwhelming numbers to join Russia if the recent referendums in these territories were held again. All of these regions have a high percentage of Russian speakers and have historically voted for pro-Russian candidates while part of Ukraine. However, Putin has already signed treaties to accede these territories into the Russian Federation, and has vowed to defend them with Russia’s full military capabilities. At the time of writing, nearly 60% of respondents on Twitter backed Musk’s idea. That ratio is likely to change, however, as pro-Ukrainian Twitter users in the comments have called on ‘#NAFO’ trolls to swing the poll in their favor. In a follow-up post, Musk said that “the bot attack on this poll is strong!” coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 ^ Too logical for the Alliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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