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Sachin Tendulkar v Virat Kohli - who is better ODI batsman?

Who is better ODI batsman?  

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  1. 1. Who is better ODI batsman?



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10 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

That will come, as he is temperamentally stronger then Sachin, but the duffer sellectors need to select good odi team not this rag a tag bunch .A specialist ODI n T20 side.

Think this team is already one of the best we ever had in ODIs. Moreover if Kohli is temperamentarily stronger then why it hasn't come yet?

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2 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Think this team is already one of the best we ever had in ODIs. Moreover if Kohli is temperamentarily stronger then why it hasn't come yet?

Cricket is a game of 11 players not one, and can all greats of this game show they won a world cup, it's stupid to ascribe a trophy to one person, it's juvenile, all the factors should be in alignment, ,where the games are held, how good are other teams, Duckworth Lewis lol, Will Sachin, bat, keep, bowl, field 5 times ,lol .

Infact Yuvi has had as much effect on those wins n Dhoni if not more, so you would say Dhoni is a world class test BATSMEN n no is Yuvi ?Only in a country like ours we idolize and trivialize other peoples performance, Did Sachin by himself won the world cup? Or his team did, was he a captain, how stupid is comparing a batters pedigree with a world cup win, lol.

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2 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Think this team is already one of the best we ever had in ODIs. Moreover if Kohli is temperamentarily stronger then why it hasn't come yet?

This team is weak with no middle order or explosive batters, all we have is Virat, Rohit, Dhawan, BK, Pandya, spinners, we have several dead weights Rahane, Dhoni is useless now , Jadhav is still not established so is Pandey.

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Its a no brainer for me. The situation when Sachin was playing and now that Kohli plays, have totally changed. When Sachin used to bat like a marauder, the Indian team was a borderline minnow team. The opposition needed just a couple of wickets to totally shake the Indian team. We didn't even have class bowlers. So the whole dynamic was different. 

Sachin performed under circumstances and with players, in which other great batsmen might have totally given up. Virat hasn't had to play in such teams. We also have a pretty good bowling attack for some time now. 

 

So, the nos might tell a different story, but the fact remains that Sachin was a master and Kohli is not there. And for all the Pakistani trolls who are trolling about Amla and co, take a hike. You obviously know no S%$t about cricket!

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23 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

Cricket is a game of 11 players not one, and can all greats of this game show they won a world cup, it's stupid to ascribe a trophy to one person, it's juvenile, all the factors should be in alignment, ,where the games are held, how good are other teams, Duckworth Lewis lol, Will Sachin, bat, keep, bowl, field 5 times ,lol .

Infact Yuvi has had as much effect on those wins n Dhoni if not more, so you would say Dhoni is a world class test BATSMEN n no is Yuvi ?Only in a country like ours we idolize and trivialize other peoples performance, Did Sachin by himself won the world cup? Or his team did, was he a captain, how stupid is comparing a batters pedigree with a world cup win, lol.

Not just a trophy, but sure a great batsman would fluke a performance someday in a 50 over final of any tournament. 

 

Since Kohli is yet to do it, it's difficult to say that he has better temperament than SRT.

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13 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Its a no brainer for me. The situation when Sachin was playing and now that Kohli plays, have totally changed. When Sachin used to bat like a marauder, the Indian team was a borderline minnow team. The opposition needed just a couple of wickets to totally shake the Indian team. We didn't even have class bowlers. So the whole dynamic was different. 

Sachin performed under circumstances and with players, in which other great batsmen might have totally given up. Virat hasn't had to play in such teams. We also have a pretty good bowling attack for some time now. 

 

So, the nos might tell a different story, but the fact remains that Sachin was a master and Kohli is not there. And for all the Pakistani trolls who are trolling about Amla and co, take a hike. You obviously know no S%$t about cricket!

For most part of Sachins career our ODI side was good or decent, Zak, Srinath, Prasad were good, our spinners were Bhajji, Raju, Kartik,Kumble, batting was very good as well, Saurav was world class ODi bat, Dravid versatile keeper bat, Yuvi, Kaif for some time, Gambhir for some time, Sehwag was good.

Barring very initial years under Azhar or his initial phase our odi side grew n became good n even won abroad, but what makes this current side great is mindset, Virat n having more then one strike Bowler.

Forget about Sachin, Virat the way he controls the game, finishes the game, keeps tempo, scores big, is never seen before, he is the best ODI bat till date in the history of the game n not just India.

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41 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

For most part of Sachins career our ODI side was good or decent, Zak, Srinath, Prasad were good, our spinners were Bhajji, Raju, Kartik,Kumble, batting was very good as well, Saurav was world class ODi bat, Dravid versatile keeper bat, Yuvi, Kaif for some time, Gambhir for some time, Sehwag was good.

Barring very initial years under Azhar or his initial phase our odi side grew n became good n even won abroad, but what makes this current side great is mindset, Virat n having more then one strike Bowler.

Forget about Sachin, Virat the way he controls the game, finishes the game, keeps tempo, scores big, is never seen before, he is the best ODI bat till date in the history of the game n not just India.

I am talking from 89-96/97ish.... When Sachin was young. And till then, we didn't have an established team.

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9 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

I am talking from 89-96/97ish.... When Sachin was young. And till then, we didn't have an established team.

Sachins ave and performance was modest until then ,he played like Sehwag did in Odis, until he was elevated as an opener, it's tougher to come down the order n not getting advantage with field restrictions .

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17 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

Sachins ave and performance was modest until then ,he played like Sehwag did in Odis, until he was elevated as an opener, it's tougher to come down the order n not getting advantage with field restrictions .

He was not opening then and yet was dangerous. He played like Sehwag. if he had the kind of players that we have now, he would have been beyond compare. 

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2 hours ago, MCcricket said:

Sachins ave and performance was modest until then ,he played like Sehwag did in Odis, until he was elevated as an opener, it's tougher to come down the order n not getting advantage with field restrictions .

It was never ordinary. He was just a kid but because he was such an exceptional phenomenon, that Indian team wanted him to get used to playing true pace. We didnt had bowling machines and all. Our pacers, including Kapil Paaji werent fast enough to give him actual feel of International cricket. So despite him having this extra ordinary ability and a calibre, at the end he was just a kid to the team. And he was treated with soft hands. Because senior players didnt wanted to risk it. At that age, You may be hitting every ball, but your bones are soft. All that requires is that one ball. And it may have been game over for life. Senior players knew that. he didnt understood that.

 

 

Hence whenever he came to bat, He just wanted to proove that next game, please send me up the order. So what it meant was, Fearless daring kid, not think about inning or consequence, but just trying to show rest of his team that he can bat.

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Sachin is still the better one day batsman.

 

Reasons - longevity. There is a stretch in Sachin's  career starting from when he opened,  where he played 249 inns on the trot , avg:ed

49  at a str: rate of 89. To avg: 49 facing several sub 25 avg:ing bowlers   is like avg:ing around 54 against now a days bowlers.

To add to that Sachin has played several  masterful  tournament knock out inns including finals. All these,amidst intense pressure  of all sorts  from all quarters, the levels of which not any player ever had to cope with in the history of the game till now.

 

 

 

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