rageaddict Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 See Kohli fails to finish the job again as was the case with SRT most of the times. When you are the only batsman carrying the burden of entire batting line-up, you might get a big ton but always fall short of the touching line without any contribution from other batsmen. Can't expect a batsman to get a big score and remain at the crease all the way till the end. Many spectacular chases by Kohli in Odis had contributions from the other batsmen but he fails when he has to do the job all alone like today. Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said: Kohli is greater, but I want him to show that in the WC To win world cup , you need a team too. Dhoni did nothing in 2011 but team carried him to finals and he happened to get his one score there. Link to comment
Deleted_User_1 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Kohli needs to score big in WC to cement this once and for all. Record wise and clutch performance he is way ahead of Tendulkar, but the latter had several memorable WC performances in 1996, 2003 and 2011. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, putrevus said: To win world cup , you need a team too. Dhoni did nothing in 2011 but team carried him to finals and he happened to get his one score there. You need runs in the WC from him whether in wins or losses. SRT was top run getter in 3 WC IIRC. Link to comment
velu Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 hours ago, putrevus said: No Viv is getting very overrated here, he had very high risk game.He was great but Kohli is far better than anyone else. still he averaged very high .. Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, rkt.india said: You need runs in the WC from him whether in wins or losses. SRT was top run getter in 3 WC IIRC. Yes , why are we assuming Kohli will flop in 2019, he was too young in 2011 , did reasonable there played small but important role.2015 he faded away after good start but I don't blame him, he had a very long season then. Sachin played in five world cups. Kohli two let him play then we will judge. But after 227 matches, there is no one close to this guy . Link to comment
mishra Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, velu said: still he averaged very high .. what kind of discussion we are having. We are discussing player who had no weaknesses vs someone who has at least 3 weaknesses. We are comparing players who have won allmost everything worth winning and won trophiies and tournaments sigled handedly to someone who hasnt wont anything since he became main player apart from a series in Australia velu 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Most Player-of-the-Series awards No. of Awards Player No. of Series Career 15 Sachin Tendulkar India 108 1989–2012 11 Sanath Jayasuriya Sri Lanka 111 1989–2011 9 Shaun Pollock South Africa 60 1996–2008 7 Vivian Richards West Indies 40 1975–1991 7 Hashim Amla South Africa 47 2008–present 7 Virat Kohli India 50 2008-present 7 Chris Gayle West Indies 65 1999–present 7 Yuvraj Singh India 71 2000–present 7 Sourav Ganguly India 75 1992–2007 7 Ricky Ponting Australia 77 1995–2012 7 Mahendra Singh Dhoni India 77 2004–present Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
someone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 This Indian batting side will be 10% without Kohli. While without Sachin, we still had enough batting power during his era. Kohli's importance to our team is far greater than Sachin. Not to forget, his captaincy records and clutch matches. Link to comment
zen Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mishra said: Most Player-of-the-Series awards No. of Awards Player No. of Series Career 15 Sachin Tendulkar India 108 1989–2012 11 Sanath Jayasuriya Sri Lanka 111 1989–2011 9 Shaun Pollock South Africa 60 1996–2008 7 Vivian Richards West Indies 40 1975–1991 7 Hashim Amla South Africa 47 2008–present 7 Virat Kohli India 50 2008-present 7 Chris Gayle West Indies 65 1999–present 7 Yuvraj Singh India 71 2000–present 7 Sourav Ganguly India 75 1992–2007 7 Ricky Ponting Australia 77 1995–2012 7 Mahendra Singh Dhoni India 77 2004–present Richards .... 7 awards in just 40 series ..... Amla and Kohli's award ratio is good too Edited March 8, 2019 by zen mishra 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 ^ From Above its very clear that Amala, Sir Viv have won more series then Kohli. Heck even Ganguly, if he didn't had to compete against someone like Sachin would have won more man of the series then Kohli Link to comment
mishra Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, zen said: Richards .... 7 awards in just 40 series ..... Amla and Kohli's award ratio is good too Aparantly icf Choker has lost most series despite winning MoS. (8 series i guess). But people will keep saying that bats around him were great and gave lots of support Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 hours ago, velu said: viv .. baap of all Correct, no one comes close to the King, undisputed GOAT of ODIs. Link to comment
Anoop K Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Gollum said: Correct, no one comes close to the King, undisputed GOAT of ODIs. Viv has so many MOS in only 40 series simply because competition was not much. West Indies was the first team to adapt to ODIs so fast. In fact their 4 batsmen will make in top 5 batsmen between 1975-85. Haynes, greenidge, Richards and Lloyd. They also had 3 out of 5 best odi bowlers of their era, Garner, holding, Roberts.Though Viv clearly was the leader of the pack. Edited March 8, 2019 by Anoop K Mistake Link to comment
mishra Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Anoop K said: Viv has so many MOS in only 40 series simply because competition was not much. West Indies was the first team to adapt to ODIs so fast. In fact their 4 batsmen will make in top 5 batsmen between 1975-85. Haynes, greenidge, Richards and Lloyd. They also had 3 out of 5 best odi bowlers of their era, Garner, holding, Roberts.Though Viv clearly was the leader of the pack. As i said, icf choker has lost most series despite being MoS. And no points in guessing who the opponents were. And the choker, played "as bat" with most medocre bowling attack. If it wasnt Kumble, we Prasead wasnt even Henry Olonga Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 19 100s in 66 matches as a captain.Wow this guy is just amazing.People are still whining about his batting. velu 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 No Place For Virat Kohli In ICC's World Cup XI Updated: 15 July 2019 16:58 IST ন Two India players -- Rohit Sharma and Jasprit Bumrah - found a place in ICC's World Cup 2019 XI while captain Virat Kohli missed out. Here is the team: Jason Roy (Eng) - 443 runs at 63.28 Rohit Sharma (India) - 648 runs at 81.00 Kane Williamson (c) (NZ) - 578 runs at 82.57 Joe Root (Eng) - 556 runs at 61.77 Shakib (B'desh) - 606 runs at 86.57, 11 wkts at 36.27 Ben Stokes (Eng) - 465 runs at 66.42, 7 wkts at 35.14 Alex Carey (wk) (Aus) - 375 runs at 62.50, 20 dismissals Mitchell Starc (Aus) - 27 wkts at 18.59 Jofra Archer (Eng) - 20 wkts at 23.05 Lockie Ferguson (NZ) - 21 wickets at 19.47 Jasprit Bumrah (India) - 18 wkts at 20.61 India captain Virat Kohli, who led the team to the World Cup 2019 semi-finals, failed to find a spot in International Cricket Council (ICC)'s team of World Cup 2019, announced on its official website on Monday. England opener Jason Roy, who was picked ahead of Virat Kohli, had same 443 runs in the tournament. However, Roy's average of 63.29 in 7 matches was better than the right-handed batsman. Virat Kohli averaged 55.38 in 9 matches. India's golden run in World Cup 2019 ended after suffering an 18-run defeat to New Zealand in the first semi-final in Manchester. Two India players -- Rohit Sharma and Jasprit Bumrah -- found places in ICC's World Cup 2019 XI. New Zealand skipper Kane Williamson, who was named player of the tournament, has been named as the captain of the side. Former commentators Ian Bishop, Ian Smith and Isa Guha, cricket writer Lawarence Booth and ICC General Manager Cricket Geoff Allardice picked the World Cup 2019 playing XI. Rohit Sharma and Jason Roy are picked as openers, thanks to their brilliant performance in the showpiece event. Rohit, who scored five tons in World Cup 2019, was the tournament's leading run scorer with 648 runs. Williamson is placed at number 3 spot followed by Joe Root, all-rounders Shakib Al Hasan and Ben Stokes. Australia's Alex Carey, who showed character in the recently concluded tournament, is the wicket-keeper batsman in ICC's playing XI. The bowling attack looks lethal with big names including Mitchell Starc, Jofra Archer, Lockie Ferguson and Jasprit Bumrah in the side. Mitchell Starc was the leading wicket-taker of the tournament with 27 wickets. While, Jofra Archer who bowled the super over for England, had claimed 20 wickets in the tournament. Bumrah, the top ranked ODI bowler, always provided India breakthroughs in crucial moments and picked 18 wickets in the showpiece event. https://sports.ndtv.com/world-cup-2019/virat-kohli-misses-out-in-iccs-world-cup-2019-team-2069905 Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 time for choker ratman to feast on more pointless bilateral ODIs and ignite this conversation again. mani sha, bahubali and Stradlater 1 2 Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 always the golden generation ... Sachin by miles. bahubali, Stan AF and Stradlater 3 Link to comment
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