Trichromatic Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Chakdephatte said: What's the logic. Is he saying top hand dominant players are always better than bottom handed ones. No, he is saying that bottom handed players are less likely to recover from decline. Link to comment
New guy Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 8 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Everybody is overrated using a weird yardstick. In Zimbabwe India was struggling big time against Streak/Olonga/Neil Johnson. Only guy who stood up was Dravid. Still that was not enough. We lost the test. https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-tour-of-zimbabwe-1998-99-62306/zimbabwe-vs-india-only-test-63813/full-scorecard Same way at Kingsmead ball swinging like banana for Donald. India got shot out for 100 & 66. Only guy who could survive there in the 2nd innings was Dravid with 27 not out. Then that twin fifties on an unplayable West Indian pitch. twin centuries at the Eden Gardens when India was back to the wall, 2001 test vs Australia, Adelaide Test, Rawal pindi test. Then that Leeds Test century. He was made to open, play at 6, play at 3. By far the best player against swing bowling India has seen. Sachin has many innings like that but they somehow "dont count" or is under rated Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, New guy said: Sachin has many innings like that but they somehow "dont count" or is under rated Certainly his 117 as a 17 year old was one of my favorite knock. He made 117 & 68. England surrounded him with 8 fielders? That draw is enough. That 136 at chepauk was a heart breaking one though. We were inches away from win. Also one of the personal regret of Sachin was India not being able to cross 120 to win the test vs Windies. Initially fans were frustrated. But over the course it was learnt many wickets the Windies took was of no balls and they were not called. Sachin did play his part in ths historic Kolkata test with ball. In 2000s India could have won a few more tests. Everyone has innings like that. But he was never called over-rated. But Dravid is. Hence it is our duty to show some of his valiant efforts. Vijy, Chakdephatte, raki05 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Certainly his 117 as a 17 year old was one of my favorite knock. He made 117 & 68. England surrounded him with 8 fielders? That draw is enough. That 136 at chepauk was a heart breaking one though. We were inches away from win. Also one of the personal regret of Sachin was India not being able to cross 120 to win the test vs Windies. Initially fans were frustrated. But over the course it was learnt many wickets the Windies took was of no balls and they were not called. Sachin did play his part in ths historic Kolkata test with ball. In 2000s India could have won a few more tests. Everyone has innings like that. But he was never called over-rated. But Dravid is. Hence it is our duty to show some of his valiant efforts. Dravid should not be called overrated IMO. Our best ever No. 3 and an ATG - no question about that in my mind Link to comment
R!TTER Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: But over the course it was learnt many wickets the Windies took was of no balls and they were not called. 5 no balls, I've remembered it for nearly 20 years! The *ing fickle fans can go * themselves Vijy and Chakdephatte 1 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, R!TTER said: 5 no balls, I've remembered it for nearly 20 years! The *ing fickle fans can go * themselves the age of home umpires was a joke those days. especially in pak in the 80s. I remember how amarnath and vengsarkar had to bat a whole day without even allowing balls to hit their pads. and WI umpires were pretty biased as well - allowed a lot of pseudo-bodyline bowling in the 70s-90s. Link to comment
goose Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 the only thing worse than a never ending sachin vs kohli thread is one that no longer has anytihng to do with sachin vs kohli ! Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 hours ago, goose said: the only thing worse than a never ending sachin vs kohli thread is one that no longer has anytihng to do with sachin vs kohli ! yes, let's make it into a bradman vs smith thread or headley vs lara vs richards thread. my vote is for bradman (despite him only facing trundlers) and for lara. Link to comment
DeepSpace Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 5:53 PM, R!TTER said: Here it is This was a gettable total despite the pitch. Some of the shotmaking was questionable, even Sachin's. If this was ten years later, these same batsmen would have won it. Vijy 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 If we have to simplify the difference, Two words. Back foot. Kohli's front foot plonking game could not be sustained. If Kohli had mastered this his record would have been closer to Smith's record. He does play. But does he play when has to all the time. No. More often than not he plays a shot on the frontfoot that should have been played off the backfoot. Vijy 1 Link to comment
diga Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 3:15 AM, R!TTER said: 5 no balls, I've remembered it for nearly 20 years! The *ing fickle fans can go * themselves and the name Franklyn Rose... still stuck in my head Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 21 hours ago, diga said: and the name Franklyn Rose... still stuck in my head yep, ended up bowling one of his best spells in an otherwise poor career. Link to comment
Stan AF Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Finally I get something of a longer video. mishra 1 Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Tendulkar was way more talented no doubt. However, Kohli has given more to Indian Test team than Tendulkar. New guy 1 Link to comment
krakatoa Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 thankfully this debate is settled. lolli went from potentially having GOAT status to an afterthought wokiya. Link to comment
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