coffee_rules Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 On 4/20/2018 at 3:46 PM, velu said: my fathers favorite god ( and he want me to emulate him ) he got two wives , one dark and one fair one .. ( guess fairer one is the north indian and darker one is from sout........ ) In North India , Kartikeya is considered celibate. Devasena (daughter of Indra) is considered his wife . Valli is considered a tribal wife is some communities only. Even Ganapthi is celibate too South Indians don’t believe in celibate gods. Even Hanuman is married according to them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Even Hanuman is married according to them Blasphemy, let me get my Jewish space coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 (edited) 12 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Blasphemy, let me get my Jewish space Legend has it that while flying over the Ram samudra (Palk strait), drop of his sweat fell in the sea, a Matsya kanya swallowed it and gave birth to a Matsyanjeneya. Hence he is not a Brahmachari. There you go!! Edited September 27 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 There's no reason for South Indians to speak/ learn Hindi. If you're coming to the South, you learn our language. A simple equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Because it is a *ing waste of time ignorant assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillu Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) First and foremost try to create a universal script for all the Indian languages. It is getting increasingly difficult for today's SI kids to learn 4 different scripts( English, Kannada, Hindi, Mother tongue) especially in metro cities like Bangalore. North Indians are wilfully ignorant of the troubles South Indian kids has to go through learning so many languages. Edited September 28 by Tillu singhvivek141 and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tillu said: First and foremost try to create a universal script for all the Indian languages. It is getting increasingly difficult for today's SI kids to learn 4 different scripts( English, Kannada, Hindi, Mother tongue) especially in metro cities like Bangalore. North Indians are wilfully ignorant of the troubles South Indian kids has to go through learning so many languages. TBH, it's extremely tough to manage the language issue in the country, coz sidelining with anyone is going to cause lot of issues. Go to Pune and some will turn away their face immediately if you don't speak Marathi. Gujrat to a less extent, but at some places like Junagadh, Surendranagar or Mahuva...they will struggle in any other language except Gujrati. WB has the same story. Some remote places in MP (Bundelkhand region), speak a very different tone of Hindi...which even fluent native Hindi speakers struggle to understand. God knows, how can we fix this problem. Not everyone knows English as well, and folks are not ready to compromise as well. Edited September 28 by singhvivek141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 6 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: TBH, it's extremely tough to manage the language issue in the country, coz sidelining with anyone is going to cause lot of issues. Go to Pune and some will turn away their face immediately if you don't speak Marathi. Gujrat to a less extent, but at some places like Junagadh, Surendranagar or Mahuva...they will struggle in any other language except Gujrati. WB has the same story. Some remote places in MP (Bundelkhand region), speak a very different tone of Hindi...which even fluent native Hindi speakers struggle to understand. God knows, how can we fix this problem. Not everyone knows English as well, and folks are not ready to compromise as well. Like China, we should have pushed for one language for communication at least. Nehru and Congress tried to push Hindi and it backfired. 33% of India speak Hindi and about 60% understand it. Practically, it is Hindi/Hindustani (kadi bol mix of Hindi and Urdu). Ghar mein talk your mother tongue and communicate in one language of the majority. That is the deal South Indians signed up for when they agreed to join the union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Like China, we should have pushed for one language for communication at least. Nehru and Congress tried to push Hindi and it backfired. 33% of India speak Hindi and about 60% understand it. Practically, it is Hindi/Hindustani (kadi bol mix of Hindi and Urdu). Ghar mein talk your mother tongue and communicate in one language of the majority. That is the deal South Indians signed up for when they agreed to join the union. Is it too late to push for Sanskrit ? I mean, yeah it will be a start. But since most of Indian languages have heavy influence of Sanskrit, it might be easier to pick things up. Israel pushed for their cultural language "hebrew", we should also push for "Sanskrit"...I think even the states who resist Hindi too will accept Sanskrit mostly. Edited September 28 by singhvivek141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Is it too late to push for Sanskrit ? I mean, yeah it will be a start. But since most of Indian languages have heavy influence of Sanskrit, it might be easier to pick things up. Israel pushed for their cultural language "hebrew", we should also push for "Sanskrit"...I think even the states who resist Hindi too will accept Sanskrit mostly. I used to think that way, but Sanskrit brings Dharma etc and secularists will oppose. Swami Vivekananda and Aldi Shankara travelled across India speaking Sanskrit . But , secularists and samuday vishesh will not agree because of religious connection to Sanskrit. To unite the country , Nehru wanted Hindustani as the language. I don’t mind now for the sake of the unity. Can’t leave out Muslums out of India, Hinduerashtra was only possible if we had swapped the population in 1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: I used to think that way, but Sanskrit brings Dharma etc and secularists will oppose. Swami Vivekananda and Aldi Shankara travelled across India speaking Sanskrit . But , secularists and samuday vishesh will not agree because of religious connection to Sanskrit. To unite the country , Nehru wanted Hindustani as the language. I don’t mind now for the sake of the unity. Can’t leave out Muslums out of India, Hinduerashtra was only possible if we had swapped the population in 1947 It's irks me alot, it's just a badly mixed cocktail of all sorts. It has impacted the pronounciations as well. I was watching a nana patekar movie (can't recall the name), where he said that "you north indian pronounce incorrectly...it's not Vaishali, it's Vaieshali...not using the 'matra' properly". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 6 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: God knows, how can we fix this problem. Not everyone knows English as well, and folks are not ready to compromise as well. It's simple. We adopt English as our link language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillu Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 6 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: It's irks me alot, it's just a badly mixed cocktail of all sorts. It has impacted the pronounciations as well. I was watching a nana patekar movie (can't recall the name), where he said that "you north indian pronounce incorrectly...it's not Vaishali, it's Vaieshali...not using the 'matra' properly". Ab tak Chappan. One of my favourite Hindi movies. singhvivek141, Mariyam and coffee_rules 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 5 hours ago, Lannister said: It's simple. We adopt English as our link language. Very less % of population knows proper English, it will be a herculean effort. Side-effect is that people will forget writing & reading local languages and they will die slow death. I know few folks who have studied in English schools and have forgotten how to write in their language, even while reading they make lot of mistakes. Only language where they are proficient enough is English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 12 hours ago, coffee_rules said: I used to think that way, but Sanskrit brings Dharma etc and secularists will oppose. Swami Vivekananda and Aldi Shankara travelled across India speaking Sanskrit . But , secularists and samuday vishesh will not agree because of religious connection to Sanskrit. To unite the country , Nehru wanted Hindustani as the language. I don’t mind now for the sake of the unity. Can’t leave out Muslums out of India, Hinduerashtra was only possible if we had swapped the population in 1947 It will be an issue at the start, but if we can cross that phase eventually it will help the people to connect with their forgotten roots. People will be able to read the texts which they can't now and depend on incorrect translated versions. At this moment even Arabia under MBS is going in a different direction by appreciating their local women gods of the pre-islamic era. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 जो लोग हिंदी पसंद नहीं करते उन्हें गांवों में रहने की सलाह दी जाती है। Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 4 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Very less % of population knows proper English, it will be a herculean effort. Side-effect is that people will forget writing & reading local languages and they will die slow death. I know few folks who have studied in English schools and have forgotten how to write in their language, even while reading they make lot of mistakes. Only language where they are proficient enough is English. What do you mean people don't speak English? It's taught as a second language in schools across India, especially in the south. The only ones who don't know English are those who haven’t had access to education. Those people should simply stay within their own states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 20 minutes ago, Lannister said: What do you mean people don't speak English? It's taught as a second language in schools across India, especially in the south. The only ones who don't know English are those who haven’t had access to education. Those people should simply stay within their own states. Not sure how to explain this, but there are folks in our country who have "studied" English...but can't express their thoughts in that language..and it exists irrespective of North or South. Such folks, being in IT industry, are good in their work, but at times it becomes really tough to hide them in front of English speaking clients. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Those who can speak Hindi are pure Indians coffee_rules and randomGuy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 21 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Not sure how to explain this, but there are folks in our country who have "studied" English...but can't express their thoughts in that language..and it exists irrespective of North or South. Such folks, being in IT industry, are good in their work, but at times it becomes really tough to hide them in front of English speaking clients. If you're expecting perfect shakespearean English in India, then perhaps London would suit you better. India is not for you. Just as people have varying abilities in mathematics, you can't expect everyone to be equally proficient in learning languages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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