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Why do some South Indians can speak Hindi fluently while many can't?

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randomGuy Grand Master

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22 minutes ago, Lord said:

Those who can speak Hindi are pure Indians :agree: :vroam:

 

 

जो हिंदी से नफरत नहीं करते, वे शुद्ध भारतीय हैं 

singhvivek141 Grand Master

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16 minutes ago, Lannister said:

If you're expecting perfect  shakespearean English in India, then perhaps London would suit you better. India is not for you.

 

Just as people have varying abilities in mathematics, you can't expect everyone to be equally proficient in learning languages.

 

Wrong analogy,

I don't expect everyone to solve vector algebra or Trigonometric equations...but I can expect folks to atleast solve basic arithmetic calculations.

If people are fumbling while multiplying 4 & 7, then this gives the indication that people are poor in maths and has long way to go.

 

Similarly, if a person isnt even able to express his thoughts in English. Then it will fail as a link language. One dont need to be a Shakespeare or H. Martin or P.C. Wren, that's a very advance level.

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23 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

Wrong analogy,

I don't expect everyone to solve vector algebra or Trigonometric equations...but I can expect folks to atleast solve basic arithmetic calculations.

If people are fumbling while multiplying 4 & 7, then this gives the indication that people are poor in maths and has long way to go.

 

Similarly, if a person isnt even able to express his thoughts in English. Then it will fail as a link language. One dont need to be a Shakespeare or H. Martin or P.C. Wren, that's a very advance level.

That's what I was getting at. If people can't speak even basic English despite attending school, it simply means they're not skilled at learning additional languages.

coffee_rules Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, Lannister said:

 

 

Brahmananige yake ishtondu thika uri? 

Jathi maathu yaake tegitiyo  tarlemundede. I typed it in Hindi and you understood it. That means you know Hindi and are a pure Indian :isalute:

coffee_rules Grand Master

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With smart phones and AI , there is no need to learn to communicate in different languages. We can all speak in what we know and it will translate to what the other one understands. You  can say MC BC to a South Indian and he can reply back SM, BM

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zen Grand Master

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Not knowing Hindi is no big deal esp. with English, an international language, around. Since Hindi is spoken by a majority of people, it does help if you know it.

 

People should stay connected with the language of their choice. If you don’t support your regional language, who will?
 

You cannot allow everything about your region (and even religion) to get cannibalized in the name of “India”. A regional language is “Indian” too.

 

Note that both Hindi and English are the official languages of the union government. India does not have a national language.

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Nikhil_cric Grand Master

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Staying in Gurgaon for 6-7 months improved my Hindi by leaps and bounds. Although my inner circle even there were primarily those who preferred to converse in English.  It's a matter of comfort too. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Staying in Gurgaon for 6-7 months improved my Hindi by leaps and bounds. Although my inner circle even there were primarily those who preferred to converse in English.  It's a matter of comfort too. 

 

 

Very few North Indians learn a local South Indian language. Esp in Bangalore, even after living there for years . It’s just that lack of open-mindedness!

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16 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Very few North Indians learn a local South Indian language. Esp in Bangalore, even after living there for years . It’s just that lack of open-mindedness!

That's a recent phenomenon. Sindhis, Punjabis, Marwaris, Bora Muslims have all spoken Kannada with a good command over the language. 

 

I grew up in Wilson Garden in a community where there were plenty of these communities and they and their kids spoke better Kannada than I did. And they all spoke English too. They were very well assimilated . 

 

Its just that 2005 onwards , we have too many migrants coming in every year. 

 

 

singhvivek141 Grand Master

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40 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Very few North Indians learn a local South Indian language. Esp in Bangalore, even after living there for years . It’s just that lack of open-mindedness!

 

It happens when people resist the local culture. The language barriers will evaporate when cultural amalgamation starts.

 

Also, the next gen kids born in that city will become pretty much local as they learn local language in school. 

 

Shreyas Iyer isnt a Tamilian anymore, Rohit isnt a Telugu, neither is SKY a UP wala....all 3 are Marathi now.

coffee_rules Grand Master

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3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Are u from North Karnataka ?

Folks there speak Hindi quite well.

Not really, from deep south, although spent about 3 yeats of childhood in Dharwad. It's mostly due to being interested in litreture, movies , polluted by college-mates from all over India. Dharwad/Belgaum/Kalburgi all those areas are from Hyderabad Nizam/Mumbai presidency regions, culturally they are close to North India than the southern parts. Lotsa of everyday words in Kannada are borrowed from Hindi/Urdu, so it is not hard to pickup. 

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38 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Not really, from deep south, although spent about 3 yeats of childhood in Dharwad. It's mostly due to being interested in litreture, movies , polluted by college-mates from all over India. Dharwad/Belgaum/Kalburgi all those areas are from Hyderabad Nizam/Mumbai presidency regions, culturally they are close to North India than the southern parts. Lotsa of everyday words in Kannada are borrowed from Hindi/Urdu, so it is not hard to pickup. 

Yeah, my wife's company has branches in Gulbarga, Bidar, Humnabad side. They will talk in Hindi fluently, with a Maharastrian touch. They even use word like "chehattar" (76), "chaurasi" (84) etc...which is unsual to hear in Hyderabad (except simple words like dus, bees, tees).

Have worked with few colleagues as well from Hubbali, Belgaum side, their Hindi often reminds me if I'm talking to someone from East UP, accent is so similar. Plus they're hardcore nationalists (now you might understand why I asked :p:)

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Nikhil_cric Grand Master

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On 9/30/2024 at 4:10 PM, singhvivek141 said:

 

It happens when people resist the local culture. The language barriers will evaporate when cultural amalgamation starts.

 

Also, the next gen kids born in that city will become pretty much local as they learn local language in school. 

 

Shreyas Iyer isnt a Tamilian anymore, Rohit isnt a Telugu, neither is SKY a UP wala....all 3 are Marathi now.

I agree. This is what should happen ideally. But the rate of migration should be slower for that imo. Eastern Bangalore has become pretty much North India .

 

Ideally, communities should be mixed and not so noticeably segregated .

 

22 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Not really, from deep south, although spent about 3 yeats of childhood in Dharwad. It's mostly due to being interested in litreture, movies , polluted by college-mates from all over India. Dharwad/Belgaum/Kalburgi all those areas are from Hyderabad Nizam/Mumbai presidency regions, culturally they are close to North India than the southern parts. Lotsa of everyday words in Kannada are borrowed from Hindi/Urdu, so it is not hard to pickup. 

Adil Shahi dynasty not Nizam ? 

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