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19 hours ago, DHONI_FANN said:

Sala chewtia.. It would be a complete disaster if such joke of a person becomes our PM 

What he said here isn't surprising. Many people honestly believe that ISIS is a perversion of (that which cannot be named) which can be attributed to poverty, lack of education, oppression, discrimination etc. You see all parties in India forward this nonsense, BJP, INC, AAP etc forward this apologia in one way or another.   

 

The reality is, ISIS is pure (that which cannot be named) run by scholars of (that which cannot be named) which attracts even well off foreign fighters from even the developed, Western world.  

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13 minutes ago, asterix said:

Network of cellphone and network of artillery shells... :rotfl:
 

He actually makes a valid point there.  But carrry on with your agenda though.  Btw, I'm no fan of either Rahul or his family business (congress party).

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1 hour ago, asterix said:


What valid point he’s making? Which many of us are not able to understand.

This is his thread. So there’s no agenda in updating his topic...

The fact that the vacuum created after destroying the Saddam government, and the choices made by the US to systematically exclude everybody from the Baath party, directly led to the formation of an insurgency with staying power in Iraq, which led to creation of ISIS.  And from a society and governance perspective, it is eminently true that widespread and sustained unemployment is a major ingredient in the crucible that breeds radicalization.  

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1 hour ago, sandeep said:

The fact that the vacuum created after destroying the Saddam government, and the choices made by the US to systematically exclude everybody from the Baath party, directly led to the formation of an insurgency with staying power in Iraq, which led to creation of ISIS.  And from a society and governance perspective, it is eminently true that widespread and sustained unemployment is a major ingredient in the crucible that breeds radicalization.  

The vaccum was in political arena, people were already divided in Iraq on ideology with Shia/Sunni politics. The Baath a Sunni faction backed the Saudi Ummah was against Shia Militia supported by Iran. When Baath was defeated, Shia Militia took over and that's how the ISIS started. Not because of unemployment. This is BS argument from Popat.

 

There is peace in Iran with employment/Jobs, why are they radical?

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22 hours ago, Tibarn said:

What he said here isn't surprising. Many people honestly believe that ISIS is a perversion of (that which cannot be named) which can be attributed to poverty, lack of education, oppression, discrimination etc. You see all parties in India forward this nonsense, BJP, INC, AAP etc forward this apologia in one way or another.   

 

The reality is, ISIS is pure (that which cannot be named) run by scholars of (that which cannot be named) which attracts even well off foreign fighters from even the developed, Western world.  

OPindia seems to have found some research to counter that idea

http://www.opindia.com/2018/08/does-joblessness-and-poverty-really-fuel-terrorism/

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Does joblessness and poverty really fuel terrorism?

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The evidence on the matter of whether poverty inspires terrorism points otherwise. According to a research published in the Journal, ‘Studies in Conflict & Terrorism’ by Charles A. Russell, PhD and Bowman H. Miller at the Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Airforce, terrorists have at least a partial university education and belong to an affluent middle or upper-class family.

The abstract of the study which was published online in 2008 states, “Statistics compiled on over 350 known terrorists from eighteen Middle Eastern, Latin American, West European and Japanese groups revealed the composite terrorist as a single male, aged 22 to 24, with at least a partial university education, most often in the humanities. Terrorists who have practised vocations have generally been in law, medicine, journalism, teaching and—in only Turkish and Iranian groups—engineering and technical occupations. Today’s terrorist comes from an affluent middle‐ or upper‐class family that enjoys some social prestige.”

 

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The abstract of his study published in 2007 states, “Employing a series of multiple regression analyses on terrorist incidents and casualties in ninety-six countries from 1986 to 2002, the study considers the significance of poverty, malnutrition, inequality, unemployment, inflation, and poor economic growth as predictors of terrorism, along with a variety of political and demographic control variables. The findings are that, contrary to popular opinion, no significant relationship between any of the measures of economic development and terrorism can be determined. Rather, variables such as population, ethno-religious diversity, increased state repression and, most significantly, the structure of party politics are found to be significant predictors of terrorism.”

Furthermore, Piazza’s research on India found that terrorism here is not a ‘clear product of poor economic development’. The abstract of the study states, “Poorer states in India are not necessarily more prone to terrorism, but states that have outstanding and poorly addressed political disputes do experience a disproportionately high level of terrorist activity.”

 

Even if there was research to the contrary, it would be at best a mixed bag, yet liberandus won't accept what the terrorists themselves say, what their goals are, and why they are doing it. There always has to be some excuse for certain groups. 

 

and some more

https://www.algemeiner.com/2015/02/23/memo-to-obama-unemployment-doesnt-cause-terrorism/

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In 2004, Prof. Alberto Abadie of Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government undertook a study of terrorists’ motives. When he started, he thought that “it was a reasonable assumption that terrorism has its roots in poverty.” By the time he was done, he had concluded that there is “no significant relationship” between the economic conditions in a given country and the rise of terrorists there.

 

 

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