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9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

The vaccum was in political arena, people were already divided in Iraq on ideology with Shia/Sunni politics. The Baath a Sunni faction backed the Saudi Ummah was against Shia Militia supported by Iran. When Baath was defeated, Shia Militia took over and that's how the ISIS started. Not because of unemployment. This is BS argument from Popat.

 

There is peace in Iran with employment/Jobs, why are they radical?

You are mixing apples and architecture with that comparison.  Iran has institutionalized fundamentalism - by definition, liberalism would be radical in that country.  

 

If you think that chronic unemployment, marginalization is not a factor in creating radicals, then there's no point discussing further.

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1 hour ago, sandeep said:

You are mixing apples and architecture with that comparison.  Iran has institutionalized fundamentalism - by definition, liberalism would be radical in that country.  

 

If you think that chronic unemployment, marginalization is not a factor in creating radicals, then there's no point discussing further.

That is the point. I don't think so and you do. So, you should prove it. Osama was a billionaire, all the people who cause 9/11 were not jobless, similarly ISIS was not formed by jobless individuals. ISIS was caused by ideology as you said it did in Iran. 

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9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

That is the point. I don't think so and you do. So, you should prove it. Osama was a billionaire, all the people who cause 9/11 were not jobless, similarly ISIS was not formed by jobless individuals. ISIS was caused by ideology as you said it did in Iran. 

Why so many ISIS recruits from Europe?

What employment problem are they facing in Luton and Birmingham?

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9 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

Why so many ISIS recruits from Europe?

What employment problem are they facing in Luton and Birmingham?

Exactly, Even in Bangladesh Hostage saga, the perps were all well educated from very well known schools/colleges. One was even the son of a local politician. This idea of poverty/unemployment causes terrorism/radicalism is a liberal hogwash just to beat the establishment with. It is in the ideology/version of the religion that causes these acts, which they want to slip it under the rug and ignore the elephant in the ro

 

Some hooligans cause ruckus in the Kanwar rally and they have the gall to blame religion/faith in that case. 

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The easiest thing for every evil in the World to blame on unemployment...

 

Anybody who thinks that it was unemployment which led to the creation of Al-Qaida & ISIS etc, is living in la la land...

 

All these movements are ideology driven. There could be few who would join because of unemployment or being criminals, but majority of them are educated, filled with hatred and blindly follow an evil ideology.

 

All those who joined ISIS from all over the World were not unemployed but actually attracted by the ISIS ideology...

 

 

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5 hours ago, Moochad said:

Even if there was research to the contrary, it would be at best a mixed bag, yet liberandus won't accept what the terrorists themselves say, what their goals are, and why they are doing it. There always has to be some excuse for certain groups. 

 

Yeah, I have seen something from Brookings Institute regarding this issue which found an association between the two, but even they don't say causality... It's not just liberandus though, it's people across the spectrum who think economic development solves everything. 

 

The problem is, even if unemployment/lack of economic opportunities were a factor, one can hardly use it as a sole or even primary factor. There are economically backward ethnic/religious/cultural groups in every diverse country, yet not every disproportionately worse off group turns to terrorism or even violence: there has been little if any large scale political violence by African Americans in the USA, even though they are, by all measures, a economically backwards group. There is some extra masala added to the dish to create something like ISIS. 

 

It seems so intellectually lazy as well, and seems like a sly justification for terrorism IMO. There isn't a place in the world where every single group is equal economically. The closest are places like Japan where there is little diversity in the first place. "Equality" can only exist on paper or in speeches. If the solution to terrorism is "Equality", then there will never be an end to terrorism, so why even invest time/money/resources into solving it?    

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IT cell must be the most relaxed organization in the world. This guy keeps on delivering hits making their job incredibly easy.

Watch closely his reply to the journalist... He's clueless and looking for a cue. The old guy sitting on his right ticks something on the sheet and Pappu gives a quick glance to get the cue..

 

Yes, we are agenda driven and analysing a potential future PM candidate of India... God forbid if he becomes PM...

 

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18 hours ago, sandeep said:

If you think that chronic unemployment, marginalization is not a factor in creating radicals, then there's no point discussing further.

On 8/24/2018 at 2:46 AM, sandeep said:

He actually makes a valid point there.  But carrry on with your agenda though.  Btw, I'm no fan of either Rahul or his family business (congress party).

I wonder why Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, Christians in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh aren't prone to radicalism. I mean they fit the criteria: marginalized, unemployed, persecuted....unless you want to believe that all of this is fake and they are indeed enjoying the good life in those countries. Is it too hard for you to accept that Islam has a big problem and Muslims can't coexist with others peacefully, they tend to get radicalized in literally every corner of the world. Why this constant urge to defend the indefensible when it comes to the religion of peace, huh? When a Muslim in Paris blows up a building over something with origin in Denmark or Myanmar, doesn't it lay bare the ideological underpinnings? As pointed out by fellow posters here, most of the jihadi scumbags don't fit the bill of unemployed people. 

 

It’s not poverty that breeds jihadis

 

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