Rishabh Pant performance watch thread

[Laaloo]

1 minute ago, The Dark Horse said:

He would have caught it had he not gone the other way.

Was he supposed to dive forward?

[beetle]

It was a possible  chance,not a drop.

[The Dark Horse]

10 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Was he supposed to dive forward?

Let's wait for the video and let's see. I didn't see it to be impossible like you make it out to be.

[beetle]

Good save there...

[beetle]

Wow..pant and rahul

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[Mosher]

Brilliant catch from Pant.

[CG]

Always plays with smile.Young players bring so much energy to team.

[Switchblade]

Five catches in this test match so far 

[The Dark Horse]

Not impressive.  At least one of DK or Pant should have played the full series. Now back to square one again.

[Frustrated]

He has been batting with hard hands even in English swing conditions.

Therefore, a sitting duck against hint of swing. (either out caught behind or edging to slips)

 

Unless he changes his technique massively, he is bound to fail. Sadly, No senior batsman has given him advice , it seems. Probably coz they have themselves failed.  

 

In all likelihood, Saha will be our WK in Australia with DK as back up. And this will go on for at least another couple of years

[SK_IH]

Deserves a run in all formats especially the Lois ahead of over the hill Dhoni and incorrigible DK.

 

[express bowling]

15 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

He has been batting with hard hands even in English swing conditions.

Therefore, a sitting duck against hint of swing. (either out caught behind or edging to slips)

 

Unless he changes his technique massively, he is bound to fail. Sadly, No senior batsman has given him advice , it seems. Probably coz they have themselves failed.  

 

 

Agree with this.

 

But the coach and batting coach should be telling him this.  What are they doing  ?

[WeStMiDz]

29 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Agree with this.

 

But the coach and batting coach should be telling him this.  What are they doing  ?

He has had plenty of guidance from Rahul Dravid in the A set up I'm sure. Advice and guidance is one thing but until you find a method to make runs for yourself, you will always look at sea in alien conditions. 

[Tattieboy]

Coach, coach coach!!, That's all I read 

These guys are international cricketers , the creme de  la crème of cricket in their countries, they have been coached and coached , mentored , it's the mental pressure they can't stand!!

Two examples, Vijay and Ashwin 

Did the coaches say to Vijay , play through mid wicket 5th ball off middle and off stump 5th  the test match to Jimmy Anderson or tell Ashwin to reverse sweep 5 mins after getting in? ..of course they didn't , they couldn't handle the pressure .

At the moment Pant can't handle the pressure , he is a good bat but needs to learn to play in pressure situations.

[express bowling]

9 hours ago, WeStMiDz said:

He has had plenty of guidance from Rahul Dravid in the A set up I'm sure. Advice and guidance is one thing but until you find a method to make runs for yourself, you will always look at sea in alien conditions. 

 

Even Sachin Tendulkar and Virat Kohli in their peak years needed / need guidance during difficult phases ... because an outside perspective is often needed when someone is doing something wrong.

 

The precise reason why coach, batting coach, bowling coach and fielding coach are there.

 

And Pant is just a kid playing his 3rd test in one of the more difficult batting conditions nowadays ... batting against a rampaging Anderson and Broad in these conditions.

 

Pant, Vihari, Shaw  etc. need constant guidance on these difficult tours .

Edited September 9, 2018 by express bowling

[Ankit_sharma03]

44 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Agree with this.

 

But the coach and batting coach should be telling him this.  What are they doing  ?

not only him pandya to kept playing with hard hands

Rahul n rahane are getting locked down in weird position while defending the ball

[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, Tattieboy said:

Coach, coach coach!!, That's all I read 

These guys are international cricketers , the creme de  la crème of cricket in their countries, they have been coached and coached , mentored , it's the mental pressure they can't stand!!

Two examples, Vijay and Ashwin 

Did the coaches say to Vijay , play through mid wicket 5th ball off middle and off stump 5th  the test match to Jimmy Anderson or tell Ashwin to reverse sweep 5 mins after getting in? ..of course they didn't , they couldn't handle the pressure .

At the moment Pant can't handle the pressure , he is a good bat but needs to learn to play in pressure situations.

 

Can't compare experienced players like Vijay, Rahane and Ashwin with rookies like Pant, Vihari etc.

 

Both Pant and Vihari are playing with hard hands.  They have been brought up batting in India where that is how they play.  Never played county cricket or in any swinging cinditions. When they toured England for the A-team, it was hot and the ball was not moving this much.

 

How are they supposed to know how to play swing  ?  

 

Even Kohli looked like a rookie last time in England ... and he was and is very good at handling pressure.

[Tattieboy]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Can't compare experienced players like Vijay, Rahane and Ashwin with rookies like Pant, Vihari etc.

 

Both Pant and Vihari are playing with hard hands.  They have been brought up batting in India where that is how they play.  Never played county cricket or in any swinging cinditions. When they toured England for the A-team, it was hot and the ball was not moving this much.

 

How are they supposed to know how to play swing  ?  

 

Even Kohli looked like a rookie last time in England ... and he was and is very good at handling pressure.

They know exactly how they should be playing and will have been practising in the nets BUT as I said it's a whole different game when you face huge pressure like they are . Mind not working properly, feet not moving, and all of a sudden you see ball leave hand and ooooooh a good length ball next thing out and people unhoused sitting in chairs going why did he not play this or that way .

[express bowling]

37 minutes ago, Tattieboy said:

They know exactly how they should be playing and will have been practising in the nets BUT as I said it's a whole different game when you face huge pressure like they are . Mind not working properly, feet not moving, and all of a sudden you see ball leave hand and ooooooh a good length ball next thing out and people unhoused sitting in chairs going why did he not play this or that way .

 

Even great batsmen have had technical issues since the start of cricket.

 

Attributing everything to inability to handle mental pressure is not right.  There are lots of cricketers in this team who are good at handling pressure.  I don't think you can become successful international cricketers unless you know how to handle pressure.

 

Knowing something loosely (  technical aspect )  ... and incorporating it in one's batting style ... different things altogether.  

Edited September 9, 2018 by express bowling

[Tattieboy]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Even great batsmen have had technical issues since the start of cricket.

 

Attributing everything to inability to handle mental pressure is not right.  There are lots of cricketers in this team who are good at handling pressure.  I don't think you can become successful international cricketers unless you know how to handle pressure.

 

Knowing something loosely ... and incorporating it in one's batting style ... different things altogether.  

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