Gollum Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 If at all possible, going to the next WC we must look at Iyer at #3, Kohli at #4. In KOs VK goes missing too often, him being exposed so early may not be a good ploy but a batsman like that controlling the innings at #4 boosts our MO strength a lot. Iyer can play at a high SR, very dynamic, perfect fit to get a top 3 slot. Cricwala, sandeep, nevada and 1 other 1 3
sandeep Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Gollum said: If at all possible, going to the next WC we must look at Iyer at #3, Kohli at #4. In KOs VK goes missing too often, him being exposed so early may not be a good ploy but a batsman like that controlling the innings at #4 boosts our MO strength a lot. Iyer can play at a high SR, very dynamic, perfect fit to get a top 3 slot. I have been advocating Virat at #4 in ODI cricket for 2 years now. jusarrived and Cricwala 1 1
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted December 17, 2019 Author Posted December 17, 2019 6 hours ago, sandeep said: I have been advocating Virat at #4 in ODI cricket for 2 years now. I can see it happening near the end of his career when he's around 36.
maniac Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Probably One player I can agree with that@TNAmarkFromIndia supports
Gollum Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 47.4 Keemo Paul to Shreyas Iyer, 1 run, slaps the cut on the up and he has brought up his fifty! Fourth half-ton in a row for the Mumbai lad. Second of the series. He continues his purple patch 31 runs in an over Love the way he plays spin, shows same disdain as Sehwag...was ruthless against Lyon/Keefe in that FC match 2 years ago. 6 ODI 50s in 9 innings, avg 52, SR 105 Edited December 18, 2019 by Gollum tweaker and raki05 2
Frustrated Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Bewda has cost us the WC. Sending Karthik at no4 in the SF against kiwis. Whereas we hv had a genuine no4 (in Iyer who did not even feature in WC) putrevus 1
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted December 18, 2019 Author Posted December 18, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 2:58 PM, jusarrived said: This is based on having him watched both domestic and for India . Hes obviously not the most technically sound batsmen around ,which is fine ..but hes not even a clean hitter . Shreyas Iyer is "not even a clean hitter". What a gem from @jusarrived Pratik77 and Frustrated 2
putrevus Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 50 minutes ago, Frustrated said: Bewda has cost us the WC. Sending Karthik at no4 in the SF against kiwis. Whereas we hv had a genuine no4 (in Iyer who did not even feature in WC) Shastri is from Mumbai and he should know Iyer better than anyone else.The more I see Iyer the more I think he would have saved India's ass in world cup. Frustrated 1
Frustrated Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, putrevus said: Shastri is from Mumbai and he should know Iyer better than anyone else.The more I see Iyer the more I think he would have saved India's ass in world cup. Iyer's technique would improve with every game he plays. He is still very young. What I like about him is that he has the Balls to face the music under tough situation. He has the hunger for runs. It's evident. TM needs to back him for that difficult No4 slot . Even if he fails in 2-3 matches, the TM should persist with him. nevada 1
putrevus Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Frustrated said: Iyer's technique would improve with every game he plays. He is still very young. What I like about him is that he has the Balls to face the music under tough situation. He has the hunger for runs. It's evident. TM needs to back him for that difficult No4 slot . Even if he fails in 2-3 matches, the TM should persist with him. I don't think there is any doubt for his place.He is the third best batsman on this team.He rotates strike better than Rahul.His nonselection for world cup should go down as one of the biggest blunders. Frustrated 1
jusarrived Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said: Shreyas Iyer is "not even a clean hitter". What a gem from @jusarrived I still dont think he can hit fast bowlers . Hes earned his spot for now and arguably the best options , considering not many contenders for mo in domestic, but am skeptical on him lasting for long
rtmohanlal Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 the guy was dropped after just 5 inns with out any reason what so ever. He did so well for a rookie . Now he is showing as to what India missed in the world cup. Dinesh Kartik on a swinging pitch to anchor the inns after early damage!!!!! I don't think Rahul at the top is a good option either... Frustrated, putrevus and Cricwala 1 2
ganeshran Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) deleted Edited December 18, 2019 by ganeshran
sandeep Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/16/2019 at 11:28 PM, TNAmarkFromIndia said: I can see it happening near the end of his career when he's around 36. It should happen today. If you slot in a Manish Pandey or Shubman Gill at #3 and Kohli at #4, the team instantly gets stronger. Only thing is Virat's cumulative stats will probably have 5-8 fewer centuries.
jusarrived Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, sarchasm said: Yeah, he's not the loser like KL who never made the cut as a MO bat, and took forever to show he could bat as Rohit's understudy at the top. Bottler like Dravid. Ok sarchasm 1
vvvslaxman Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 He is really proving many wrong. He looked like he would get out to while hitting it on the up. He is hitting through the gap. Also he is the best off spinner killer since Pandya. No off spinner can get away against him.
express bowling Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 Kohli said a very strange thing during the after match interview. On asked whether Iyer has solved the No.4 problem he replied that it was more of a made out problem than a real one. The top 3 were batting so well that the later batters did not get enough chances to develop their game. Almost none of the interviewers these days ask probing questions and are like Yes-men to top cricketers, coaches etc. ... and today's interviewer, Manju, is no different. So, he got away with this answer. But he could have been asked 1) Iyer was averaging 40+ with a SR of 100+ in ODIs when he was dropped from the team in 2018. Why was it done ? 2) Why could some among the top 3 not bat lower down the order, by rotation, in matches against weaker teams. And allow the middle order to develop their game ? nevada, tweaker, Cricwala and 2 others 5
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted December 18, 2019 Author Posted December 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, express bowling said: Kohli said a very strange thing during the after match interview. On asked whether Iyer has solved the No.4 problem he replied that it was more of a made out problem than a real one. The top 3 were batting so well that the later batters did not get enough chances to develop their game. Almost none of the interviewers these days ask probing questions and are like Yes-men to top cricketers, coaches etc. ... and today's interviewer, Manju, is no different. So, he got away with this answer. But he could have been asked 1) Iyer was averaging 40+ with a SR of 100+ in ODIs when he was dropped from the team in 2018. Why was it done ? 2) Why could some among the top 3 not bat lower down the order, by rotation, in matches against weaker teams. And allow the middle order to develop their game ? Or better yet, "If it was a made out problem, why did you drop the No. 4 you played for over a year from the World Cup squad and tried 3 different players at that position in the World Cup?" Cricwala 1
prudent_kreeda Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 4 hours ago, jusarrived said: I still dont think he can hit fast bowlers . Hes earned his spot for now and arguably the best options , considering not many contenders for mo in domestic, but am skeptical on him lasting for long He is not a finished product . Plays spin very well . But most of the big shots are down the ground and from long on to Wide mid wicket . He just needs to use the off side areas vs spinners . Then he will become not predictable . For me he does not have the same shot making ability against Pace as compared to Shaw or Pant among youngsters . Hardly plays Pull or Hook . Needs more improvement vs Pace to be good package . But good in rotation of strike , good fielder , to be persisted with . Will improve . raki05 1
putrevus Posted December 18, 2019 Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Kohli said a very strange thing during the after match interview. On asked whether Iyer has solved the No.4 problem he replied that it was more of a made out problem than a real one. The top 3 were batting so well that the later batters did not get enough chances to develop their game. Almost none of the interviewers these days ask probing questions and are like Yes-men to top cricketers, coaches etc. ... and today's interviewer, Manju, is no different. So, he got away with this answer. But he could have been asked 1) Iyer was averaging 40+ with a SR of 100+ in ODIs when he was dropped from the team in 2018. Why was it done ? 2) Why could some among the top 3 not bat lower down the order, by rotation, in matches against weaker teams. And allow the middle order to develop their game ? If he was in team he would have gotten more chances, he was discarded to early.That is the big mistake. Kohli plays all formats and does take off lot of games so playing time for new comers is not problem.Rohit if he succeeds in tests will also need time off. Like Pant was promoted last 20, newcomers if they are playing will get their chances. India never had this consistent batting from top three.Sachin, Sehwag or Ganguly together were never this consistent so that gave lot of chances to guys like Dhoni or Yuvraj early in their careers.
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