Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, SK_IH said: TM should proactive and get in Pant. Pandya and Vijay Shankar can finish 5th bowler quota. Middle order will be green but Virat should take the punt how to get in pant ??? Cant drop anyone unless they perform badly unless they really feel the need to have a leftie and changes only happens when team is loosing which isnt the case Link to comment
Suhaan Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Biggest casualty as far as impact is concerned Link to comment
DHONI_FANN Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: how to get in pant ??? Cant drop anyone unless they perform badly unless they really feel the need to have a leftie and changes only happens when team is loosing which isnt the case Pant in place of Kedar will be good bowl_out and Mosher 2 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: how to get in pant ??? Cant drop anyone unless they perform badly unless they really feel the need to have a leftie and changes only happens when team is loosing which isnt the case that's why I said the captain has to be proactive and take a decision. Anyways it seems the captain has no faith in Jadhav's bowling or batting Link to comment
DHONI_FANN Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, SK_IH said: that's why I said the captain has to be proactive and take a decision. Anyways it seems the captain has no faith in Jadhav's bowling or batting Jadhav's bowling is crap anyways especially in such conditions. Imagine Morgan, Buttler, Russel etc. facing him diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, SK_IH said: that's why I said the captain has to be proactive and take a decision. Anyways it seems the captain has no faith in Jadhav's bowling or batting actually not been needed till now which is good To be honest even in the given chances pant didnt do much to force captain to take him . 1 minute ago, DHONI_FANN said: Pant in place of Kedar will be good Kedar bowls n has improved his fielding as we saw in Aus game . Pant cant bowl or field that good and neither did he perform much which is why karthik got ahead For kedhar to be dropped he 1st needs to perform badly Link to comment
SK_IH Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: actually not been needed till now which is good To be honest even in the given chances pant didnt do much to force captain to take him . I agree Pant has not done anything of note so far but he is someone the captain can take a chance with PS: About bowling, its not case of not being needed, the captain it seems doesn't trust him anymore. His bowling bubble burst in last series he played. Edited June 19, 2019 by SK_IH Link to comment
Nikola Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Damn dhawan was needed for knockout matches atleast. Hope he gets fit soon. Pant has to be part of playing xi against afg. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, SK_IH said: I agree Pant has not done anything of note so far but he is someone the captain can take a chance with U think kohli is that sought of a captain ??? i dont think so I doubt any captain will drop any player without failures which hasnt happened in jadhav or shankar case. Those 2 just played 1 knocks in Wc......plus they both bowl and field better then pant. On the other hand pant has come of late and without much of perfomance in given chances....so practically its difficult Link to comment
DHONI_FANN Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: actually not been needed till now which is good To be honest even in the given chances pant didnt do much to force captain to take him . Kedar bowls n has improved his fielding as we saw in Aus game . Pant cant bowl or field that good and neither did he perform much which is why karthik got ahead For kedhar to be dropped he 1st needs to perform badly Pant must get matches against minnows like Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh so that he gains in confidence and gets ready in time for the knock outs. Pant better than Kedar Jadhav any day. He is a potential game changer and we need such players if we really want to win the cup Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment
sandeep Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Dhawan may not be the most technically proficient player. But he was a vital batsman for us. A left-handed batsman in the top order. A guy who readily and selflessly carried the burden of setting up the innings momentum. The right move would be throw Pant into the team asap, against Windies/Afghanistan. Shankar hasn't done much wrong, slightly unfair, but I think Pant is the right move. AuxiliA 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, DHONI_FANN said: Pant must get matches against minnows like Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh so that he gains in confidence and gets ready in time for the knock outs. Pant better than Kedar Jadhav any day. He is a potential game changer and we need such players if we really want to win the cup Stop clamoring to drop Jadhav. You need Jadhav's bowling option, and his batting is consistently underrated. The choice is between Pant and Shankar. As we go deeper into the English summer, Vijay's bowling will be even easier to loot for 15 runs per over than Jadhav's. Link to comment
BERGKAMP Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) dhoni to 4, shankar to 5 and pant to play at 6 kedar misses out rohit rahul kohli dhoni shankar pant hardik kuldeep shami chahal bumrah Edited June 19, 2019 by BERGKAMP Link to comment
SK_IH Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, sandeep said: Stop clamoring to drop Jadhav. You need Jadhav's bowling option, and his batting is consistently underrated. The choice is between Pant and Shankar. As we go deeper into the English summer, Vijay's bowling will be even easier to loot for 15 runs per over than Jadhav's. lol at Jadhav's bowling. Shankar is a better bowler than Jadhav. His submarine bazookas are not worth it any more. Imagine if Shankar wasnt there against Poyz and Jadhav had to ball 8 overs. I dont even want to imagine that Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, DHONI_FANN said: Pant must get matches against minnows like Afghanistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh so that he gains in confidence and gets ready in time for the knock outs. Pant better than Kedar Jadhav any day. He is a potential game changer and we need such players if we really want to win the cup look m no fan of jadhav but im a huge huge fan of pant but reality he hasnt done anything in given chances in the format and neither he has any utility post his batting ......plus the game he has he wud be inconsistent so its not fair to drop jadhav at this point atleast when he hasnt failed. Pant on potential is better then many but thats not enough sometimes....jadhav doesnt even have 40% talent of pant but has done everything he cud- improved fielding, running, added bowling...........dropping him without failing isnt a right xample that to for someone who hasnt done anything to demand a place . AK007 1 Link to comment
LordPrabhzy Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 well i think its a blessing in disguise and Jhadav Misses out- we still have 4 proper bowlers and 2 bowling allrounders Rohit Pant Kohli Rahul Dhoni Pandya Shankar Chahal Kuldeep Shami Bumrah Rightarmfast and DHONI_FANN 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, SK_IH said: lol at Jadhav's bowling. Shankar is a better bowler than Jadhav. His submarine bazookas are not worth it any more. Imagine if Shankar wasnt there against Poyz and Jadhav had to ball 8 overs. I dont even want to imagine that 5 minutes ago, sandeep said: Stop clamoring to drop Jadhav. You need Jadhav's bowling option, and his batting is consistently underrated. The choice is between Pant and Shankar. As we go deeper into the English summer, Vijay's bowling will be even easier to loot for 15 runs per over than Jadhav's. they both are not suppose to play for their bowling or be good with it every day.....their bowling will be useful on diff days. Its good to have 7 options of bowling . They just have to bowl 3-4 overs most days ....so its not an area of worry but its a bonus Link to comment
zen Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, sandeep said: Stop clamoring to drop Jadhav. You need Jadhav's bowling option, and his batting is consistently underrated. The choice is between Pant and Shankar. As we go deeper into the English summer, Vijay's bowling will be even easier to loot for 15 runs per over than Jadhav's. As we go into July and with pitches likely to get roughed up relatively, we may see Jadhav bowling more (or being more useful than Shankar) if in the 11 Pant can come in place of Shankar/Jadhav Edited June 19, 2019 by zen Suhaan 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Drop Jadhav, Bring in Pant. Keep Shankar in! Balance maintained. Link to comment
DHONI_FANN Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, sandeep said: Stop clamoring to drop Jadhav. You need Jadhav's bowling option, and his batting is consistently underrated. The choice is between Pant and Shankar. As we go deeper into the English summer, Vijay's bowling will be even easier to loot for 15 runs per over than Jadhav's. Jadhav's bowling is overrated. Shankar's bowling is not that great either but his gentle paced outswingers in English conditions would be more effective I think. Plant's batting is far better than that of Jadhav's is a no brainer. Link to comment
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