donkey Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/7/2021 at 2:16 AM, diga said: They are called Crypto christians. There is a lot of inducements to convert... may be cash or better social standing but mostly its by brainwashing into believing something that's not in the realms of reality I have no issues with their reasoning for conversion. Just curious about their reluctance to embrace their new faith in public. Have they been instructed to maintain a low profile or is it just a matter of person choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 16 hours ago, Ranvir said: I say let the country develop, get everyone literate and then allow people to convert. Otherwise people will simply be tricked into conversions. Most Delhi based parties are the reason why the country isn't educated and will continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 hours ago, donkey said: I have no issues with their reasoning for conversion. Just curious about their reluctance to embrace their new faith in public. Have they been instructed to maintain a low profile or is it just a matter of person choice. One needs to reach a critical mass to assert themselves publicly.. till then shadow practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Make it's a free will thing but atleast level the playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lannister Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 So forcefully keeping someone within their cult? A typical response from right wing fascists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 8:41 AM, Lannister said: So forcefully keeping someone within their cult? A typical response from right wing fascists. Yep. But one right wing fascists are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the other right wing fascists, as history shows us. The christians and muslims come en masse with foreign state agenda embedded in their denominations. So its a threat to the motherland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 5:41 PM, Lannister said: So forcefully keeping someone within their cult? A typical response from right wing fascists. Actually the right wing fascist thing would be to allow only conversion to a chosen religion. Religions conversions and attempts to change demographics have been cause many a wars and conflicts. Especially when it’s asymmetric ie only proselytising Abrahamic religions converting and the other side not. Laaloo and diga 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Yep. But one right wing fascists are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the other right wing fascists, as history shows us. The christians and muslims come en masse with foreign state agenda embedded in their denominations. So its a threat to the motherland. welcome back Mulo.. hope you are keeping well in these covid times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Actually the right wing fascist thing would be to allow only conversion to a chosen religion. People will make that choice. States need to butt out and remain secular. 3 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Religions conversions and attempts to change demographics have been cause many a wars and conflicts. A shift in demography is already happening through Hindi monopoly and weakening of federal structure. We should be more worried about that than these delusions that you speak of. 3 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Especially when it’s asymmetric ie only proselytising Abrahamic religions converting and the other side not. All religions are asymmetric with one another. So it's good that atheism is gaining popularity all over the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Yep. But one right wing fascists are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the other right wing fascists, as history shows us. The christians and muslims come en masse with foreign state agenda embedded in their denominations. So its a threat to the motherland. You are a Bengali and you are more foreign to me than the muslims and christians from my state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lannister said: You are a Bengali and you are more foreign to me than the muslims and christians from my state. You say that coz you are a Christian and a Dravidian supremacist. Most in your state are not and they see a Hindu Bengali as closer kin than their opposing religion ones. Thankfully our govt cares for the Indian interest over that of Vatican’s, unlike you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, Lannister said: People will make that choice. States need to butt out and remain secular. nope. Secular in Indian constitution means equal interference, not hands off. We know the aggressive prostelyzing abrahamic s want a neutered state so they can bring their foreign moolah as the decisive event for conversion racket. Thus state needs to make sure that you don’t get a conversion advantage. 19 minutes ago, Lannister said: A shift in demography is already happening through Hindi monopoly and weakening of federal structure. We should be more worried about that than these delusions that you speak of. good. Hindi speakers are the majority and it needs to be the national language. 19 minutes ago, Lannister said: All religions are asymmetric with one another. So it's good that atheism is gaining popularity all over the world. Atheism that is gaining traction is the abrahamic western rejectionist atheism, not the atheism of Buddhism or Daoism. We promote our own, not western ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Muloghonto said: You say that coz you are a Christian haha.. I was expecting this from you. No, I am not a christian. I am a Kannadiga. 52 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Most in your state are not and they see a Hindu Bengali as closer kin than their opposing religion ones. This may be the case in west bengal. But thankfully we are not like that. We care more about our linguistic identity, irrespective of one's religious beliefs. You are foreign to us. Not our muslim and christian brothers and sisters. They are Kannadigas. Laaloo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 This may be the case in west bengal. But thankfully we are not like that. We care more about our linguistic identity, irrespective of one's religious beliefs. You are foreign to us. Not our muslim and christian brothers and sisters. They are Kannadigas. Hubli bhatkal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: nope. Secular in Indian constitution means equal interference, not hands off. It's not equal interference when you are picking and choosing one religion over the other. 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: good. Hindi speakers are the majority and it needs to be the national language. No. 2 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Atheism that is gaining traction is the abrahamic western rejectionist atheism, not the atheism of Buddhism or Daoism. We promote our own, not western ideology. Atheism is a non-belief in god and faith based religions. There is no western or eastern aspect to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 This bill is needed, otherwise ricebag scums/missionaries will leave no stone unturned to convert people to their belief Laaloo, coffee_rules and raki05 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Muloghonto Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Lannister said: It's not equal interference when you are picking and choosing one religion over the other. No it is levelling the playing field. Hindu shrines are under government control, muslim and christian ones are not. so either they too come under government control or the government finds other ways to interfere in their affairs to level the playing field. 7 hours ago, Lannister said: No. Yes. 7 hours ago, Lannister said: Atheism is a non-belief in god and faith based religions. There is no western or eastern aspect to it. Except that ALL philosophies and ideologies show their dogmatic tendencies and western atheists have their own set code of belief system they display, distinct from eastern atheist/agnostic schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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