Muloghonto Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, sandeep said: I thought you were in Canada. I have some bad news for you, Drumpf aint gonna be on the ballot. 1. I am. I am dual citizen. 2. I love how you pass of your wishes as facts like a typical rabid left/right winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: 1. I am. I am dual citizen. 2. I love how you pass of your wishes as facts like a typical rabid left/right winger. "wishes"?? Naah, just slightly more up to date with my information, and a bit of analysis. Let me remind you that you weren't even aware that Pelosi had decided to move forward with impeachment proceedings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, sandeep said: They don't have to "get 67 votes in the Senate". If there is clear cut evidence that Drumpf broke the law - and the fact that senior govt employee took a personal risk in filing that whistleblower complaint implies that there is - then the Republicans themselves will make Drumpf resign, like Nixon. Because that gives them some semblance of a shot for 2020. Replace Drumpf with Pence, claim that a house-cleaning is done, and then fight the Democrats on the traditional turf of high-tax, high spending "socialist" liberals. Even Pelosi knows this, and that's why she didn't bother going for impeachment earlier - it was not in the democratic party's interest to get an impeachment that the Senate won't follow through on. It would either galvanize support for Drumpf, or push the Republicans into jettisoning him and becoming a stronger opponent. But Drumpf's stupidity and the whistle-blower have forced matters now. Remains to be seen whether Pence becomes collateral damage, or remains unscathed enough to ascend to the Presidency. I suspect this is the reason why Drumpf dragged Pence's name into the Ukraine mess, by bringing up his conversations. If he's going down, he wants to take Pence down with him, because that could mean President Pelosi - and that would force the Republicans to back him even if they are reluctant. Btw, the Whistleblower apparently was not aware of this particular phone call. His complaint is apparently a lot more damning. So even if you buy the Faux News spin that the phone call is "weak", which its not btw - that's not the only evidence against Drumpf. The simple fact is that most interactions between heads of state are highly choreographed and planned meticulously in advance. Even phone calls. So there were several rounds of discussions and negotiations between underlings that essentially decided the agenda and talking points for the phone conversation, before the phone was ever dialed. Those discussions and negotiations will have a gigantic paper trail, not to mention several witnesses who would have to take grave personal risk to lie under oath. And once the realization sets in that this issue can't be brazenly wished away by tweeting denials and Fox News trash, the lemmings will start jumping the ship and self-preservation starts kicking in. In fact, I would bet there are serious meetings going on within the Republican party right now, to chalk out the template for the post-Drumpf months leading to November 2020. Mitt Romney is going to be a player in this, I suspect, before long. All good, if it happens. But Drumpf is so thick-skinned, that he will not let GOP strong-arm him to resign. He will still go through senate to garner sympathy, like Clinton. What has he got to protect like other political families? Legacy? C'mon , it is Drumpf we are talking about. He is an opportunistic person. He will cut a deal, somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, sandeep said: "wishes"?? Naah, just slightly more up to date with my information, and a bit of analysis. Let me remind you that you weren't even aware that Pelosi had decided to move forward with impeachment proceedings. Yawn. I will believe it when I see it. Till then I have no interest in discussing any rep candidate than Trump because we all know that without impeachment, the incumbent always has default support of the party. So it is not really adding any value to the actual election discussion. The day he is impeached/resigns is only when we can discuss another rep candidate except Trump. Till then, it’s Trump vs the Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riya Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, sandeep said: I don't disagree. But those 'swing' voters are going to have to swing blue this time around. Nope..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riya Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 No matter whatever negatives throw at him,he is very lucky and will survive all these...easy win for him... sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: All good, if it happens. But Drumpf is so thick-skinned, that he will not let GOP strong-arm him to resign. He will still go through senate to garner sympathy, like Clinton. What has he got to protect like other political families? Legacy? C'mon , it is Drumpf we are talking about. He is an opportunistic person. He will cut a deal, somehow. Oh he's shameless and will go down fighting because impeachment won't be the end of his troubles. His only card right now is to drag Pence down with him, which means Nancy Pelosi is next in line to be President. I don't think that can save him if evidence exists that conclusively nail him. I got to be honest, that its not just my gut telling me that there's evidence, its also me wanting it to be the case. So let's see. I just saw some tweets claiming that the whistleblower complaint is going to be de-classified and released. Maybe Trump's taking a shot at making everything public, make it a trial by media, and trying to ride it out as the evidence against him not being strong enough. Just like he was able to ride out the Mueller investigation with "no collusion" nonsense. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Also we are missing the point trump is pressing China. One of his major selling point was trade with China during elections imbalance even Democrats agree with him on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremeBrainfade Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 13 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Unless he gets impeached, he is a favourite to retain his Presidency. Last time I voted for Hillary, this time will be for Trump. Agree with your first sentence. From what I can see, the Dem candidates are cannibalizing the party; they are tilting further and further left. The younger moderate candidates have no clout. The second sentence elicits a question. Why? Last time I voted Libertarian. Will probably do so again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremeBrainfade Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 This woman is still a Dem 2020 hopeful: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachinism Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 10:03 PM, velu said: even urban naxals and your fellow commies wont agree with you if you say bill gates is exploiting everyone probably he donated more to the charity than by your commie/U N/socialists combined Ohh look Velu again - Chuck in some buzz words while attacking a strawman. Maybe you should learn a bit more about Bill Gates before running your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sachinism said: Ohh look Velu again - Chuck in some buzz words while attacking a strawman. Maybe you should learn a bit more about Bill Gates before running your mouth. only buzzword i used is urban naxal and if you find it as strawman argument then most probably its because of your lubtard brain not working tight well maybe you can enlighten us with your insights abt gates vs bernie , instead of asking others to see that/do that/read that kind of statements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, velu said: only buzzword i used is urban naxal and if you find it as strawman argument then most probably its because of your lubtard brain not working tight well maybe you can enlighten us with your insights abt gates vs bernie , instead of asking others to see that/do that/read that kind of statements As per the law of straw man fallacy, it was started by Sachinism to divert the orginal argument that Bernie is a commie, to mean by default all billionaires exploit people once a straw man fallacy is triggered, there is no holding back. ..say the Straw man fallacy judge in ICF velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) People need to watch the Democratic debates, they may have replays on YT currently. The Democratic field is a clown show. It's like AAP migrated to the US. Some of these chus want to turn the US economy into a facsimile of the Indian one for the majority of India's history. The candidate currently looks to come out of Biden, Bernie, and Warren. Andrew Yang and Joe Biden are the best candidates. The former is a long-shot to be a long-shot. The latter is going to be a victim to what his moron boss, Obama, unleashed on the US. My Tiers: S (many new ideas and a good change for the Ds)- Andrew Yang A(traditional moderate D)- Biden B(decent sane candidates with some/a big flaw(s))-Buttigieg and Tulsi C(comic relief)- Williamson, Kamala D(Irrelevant hordes)- the balance, ie Beto, Castro, etc T(Tatti-tier: people who have a chance to win the D's candidature and thus the presidency): Warren and Sanders It seems like the D's enthusiastic voters are gravitating to the T-tier. I guess that shows that most of their voters are socialists. A Trump vs T-tier election would basically be a major shift away from the traditional American economy, one of free-market capitalism, to competitive protectionism and government interference in the economy. That will be very dangerous for Americans. Edited September 27, 2019 by Tibarn coffee_rules and Muloghonto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 If a male prez nominee had this ad out, feminists would have seen the sexist misogyny in it. Muloghonto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 Man is not happy, his fingers shows Jimmy Cliff and sandeep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted_User_1 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I cunt make desisun, sood I vote Trump because Modi has licked his ass and he luv Hindoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 https://arynews.tv/en/george-soros-pm-imran-khan/ Quote PM Imran Khan meets billionaire George Soros in New York I didn't see this news posted earlier. This guy George Soros, is one of the big Democratic donors. Google him if you guys want. The big Republican donors are the Koch brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 8:20 AM, ExtremeBrainfade said: She will lead the world to its end. After all, she has predicted that it will end in 12 years. This is why scientists cringe at politicians. Nowhere in the UN IPCC report did it predict a doomsday in 12 years, but she had to go there. It is a recurring theme - politicians cannot survive if there is no fear-mongering. Trump: Beware the Mexicans Sanders: Beware the big corporations, beware nuclear power, beware doctors Marianne Williamson: Beware chemicals. AOC: Beware the end of the world They find things that their demographic is a bit worried about, amplify them to ridiculous extents and in the process, lose credibility. On 9/25/2019 at 1:51 AM, Jimmy Cliff said: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will be the first female US president She and Ilhan endorsed Bernie. First Female VP may be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 12:57 PM, Tibarn said: https://arynews.tv/en/george-soros-pm-imran-khan/ I didn't see this news posted earlier. This guy George Soros, is one of the big Democratic donors. Google him if you guys want. The big Republican donors are the Koch brothers. Saw this on my timeline looks like the meeting backfired Imran is a Jewish agent https://www.rt.com/news/470380-khan-soros-jewish-agent/ Quote PM Khan branded ‘Jewish agent’ after meeting Soros as Islamist leader declares ‘WAR’ on govt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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