diga Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, Lannister said: They let them score from 90-6 to 300 in the first innings and rightly been knocked out. Captain Nair should take the blame. Anyways, good season for Karnataka winning two tournaments and reaching semis in Ranjis. Devdutt and Prasidh are among the best youngsters from this season. 67/6 to 300+.... Only one of karun nair or manish Pandey should play first class matches for Karnataka Lannister 1 Link to comment
Vickydev Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Hope Saurashtra make it instead of Gujarat. Porel can test himself against Pujara or it could be the other way round.. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Well deserving win for Bengal. Their seamers have been phenomenal. 4 quality seamers - Porel, Mukesh Kumar, Akashdeep and Shahbaz Ahmed. In tough conditions, their veteran batsmen Manoj Tiwari and Anustup have pulled them out of deep holes so many times. Shahbaz is spinner. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Biharis have changed Bengal bowling. Mukesh and Akash both are Biharis. S_pace and Forward Defence 2 Link to comment
abc Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, diga said: 67/6 to 300+.... Only one of karun nair or manish Pandey should play first class matches for Karnataka It took a special knock transcending the conditions from Anustup Majumdar to get there, ably supported by Akash Deep swinging for the ropes and a decent knock from Shahbaz Ahmed. Maybe they could have got Shahbaz out for cheaper, and Akash Deep had a lot of luck with low-percentage shots coming off, but Majumdar was truly something exceptional ... you cannot blame a bowling attack for succumbing to someone who might have been, with better management within Bengal and less anti-Bengali discrimination on the national level, one of the ATG Indian batsmen. Link to comment
abc Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Biharis have changed Bengal bowling. Mukesh and Akash both are Biharis. Mukesh Kumar was born in Kolkata. If he speaks Bengali well enough, he is definitely Bengali enough for me. Akash Deep is perhaps a little more tricky, since he moved to Bengal a lot later. I hope he will integrate fully into Bengal like Mohammad Shami didn't. Same goes for Shahbaz Ahmed, btw. Link to comment
abc Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Forward Defence said: On a fast grassy pitch Bengal will be favourites. On slower sluggish wickets Gujarat or Saurashtra will have the upper hand. Bengals top order is woefully out of form and barring Shahbaz there aren't too many spin options. I think a draw-oriented pitch is the best shot at "beating" Bengal, with probably some grass cover and moisture early on. Bowl first, trigger a top-order collapse and bowl Bengal out in one and a half days, then bat patiently to take the first innings lead over the next two-three days. By that time, the sun will ideally remove all moisture and the pitch will flatten out and become really slow (but still with true bounce), a bit like in New Zealand. If you look at the QF, this might have been the strategy of Odisha (who, one might say, put up a better fight than Karnataka). Edited March 3, 2020 by abc Forward Defence 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, abc said: It took a special knock transcending the conditions from Anustup Majumdar to get there, ably supported by Akash Deep swinging for the ropes and a decent knock from Shahbaz Ahmed. Maybe they could have got Shahbaz out for cheaper, and Akash Deep had a lot of luck with low-percentage shots coming off, but Majumdar was truly something exceptional ... you cannot blame a bowling attack for succumbing to someone who might have been, with better management within Bengal and less anti-Bengali discrimination on the national level, one of the ATG Indian batsmen. There is no anti-bengali discrimination. Link to comment
Forward Defence Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: Biharis have changed Bengal bowling. Mukesh and Akash both are Biharis. The other bowler Neelkantha Das is also not that bad. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 49 minutes ago, Forward Defence said: The other bowler Neelkantha Das is also not that bad. He is too old, 31. Link to comment
express bowling Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Mukesh Kumar and Neelkantha Das are trundlers. Porel is the only Team India prospect among Bengal pacers. And even he would be better off if he adds a few kph of pace. Mosher 1 Link to comment
abc Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Forward Defence said: The other bowler Neelkantha Das is also not that bad. 12 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He is too old, 31. Yeah, I wondered where he was all this while - probably a late developer who slipped through the cracks. He did put in some fine performances in this campaign, including 3 crucial wickets against Odisha to get the first-innings lead of the drawn QF, and 4 wickets (at less than 2 runs an over!!) vs Rajasthan to set up a victory despite conceding the first-innings lead. In fact, I think it is time we take cricket at every level **seriously** and pick the best team at a given time, at every level. You can always have a couple of developmental U23 sides along with the seniors (say India U23 A/B/... along with the non-age-restricted state teams + Services + Railways in the Ranji Trophy) for those who are young and promising but not as good as some 30-year old veteran in their state side. Link to comment
Forward Defence Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, express bowling said: Mukesh Kumar and Neelkantha Das are trundlers. Porel is the only Team India prospect among Bengal pacers. And even he would be better off if he adds a few kph of pace. Prasidh was also disappointing in this match. He couldn't get the ball to move that much. Gets a lot of bounce though. Mithun was moving the ball around beautifully as was Porel. More bowled some good stuff amidst a lot of wayward deliveries. Prasidh has to add some swing/seam movement to his armory. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 4 hours ago, express bowling said: Mukesh Kumar and Neelkantha Das are trundlers. Porel is the only Team India prospect among Bengal pacers. And even he would be better off if he adds a few kph of pace. Mukesh is quicker than BK and bowls good outswingers but yes not an all condition pacer, can be used in certain conditions. Link to comment
Vickydev Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Panchal with a pair in this match, hasn't had a great FC season at all. Easwaran has had a torrid time as well. Gill in the few matches he played wasn't too convincing either. This Ranji Trophy season has exposed India's backup options for the opener slot. Very dissapointing when there is clearly an opportunity for a classical opener in the test team. Link to comment
RajBan Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 The tricky scenario for Bengal is will they play Shami in final? If yes who will sit out? Saurashtra will definitely play Pujara if they qualify. Link to comment
express bowling Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, RajBan said: The tricky scenario for Bengal is will they play Shami in final? If yes who will sit out? Saurashtra will definitely play Pujara if they qualify. Shami was injured during the 2nd test 2nd innings. Link to comment
abc Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, RajBan said: The tricky scenario for Bengal is will they play Shami in final? If yes who will sit out? Saurashtra will definitely play Pujara if they qualify. If Shami *were* to make it back, you would think Akash Deep (assuming 3 pace, 2 spinner attack), simple because he is the most similar to Shami. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 3 hours ago, RajBan said: The tricky scenario for Bengal is will they play Shami in final? If yes who will sit out? Saurashtra will definitely play Pujara if they qualify. TM wudnt allow shami and they shudnt even Link to comment
diga Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Pappu Patel onto something special...might chase 300+ in 4th innings Link to comment
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